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Old June 27th, 2004, 10:39 PM   #21
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Wow I never knew you were so liberal. Weed for medical purposes I can understand, but not casual use. Also there are a good number of deaths each year in clubs from kids doing ecstasy either from not getting enough water (because you can dry out quickly on E) or if the pill is mixed with something else can also cause death. Now if it was legal and mass marketed, then you would not have to worry about the latter, but I see no good reason to make it legal. Almost all drugs have negative long term effects, and I do not see why its a good idea to make people unheathy. (Unless it can be used for a medical purpose, but then it still would be for short term use, only given out by doctors.
Well, it's slightly less than a "good number". The problem with ecstasy is not the drug, but the fact that people take it at large raves. In a place that is already hot and sweaty, you don't want a drug that raises your body temperature. If used correctly, it works better than any antidepressant, and any side effects go away soon after discontinuing the drugs. New York had a whopping 2 deaths due to ecstasy last year. Other antidepressant type drugs are causing many more problems, and have many more deaths.

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Old June 28th, 2004, 04:02 AM   #22
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true. the only problem is wen you mix it with booze

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Old June 28th, 2004, 08:19 AM   #23
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Hmmmmmmmm drugs should be legal but only to people who are sensible and know all the risks etc. I believe people should have a choice but if they are too young or too ignorant to understand what they are doing then they shouldn't.

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Old June 28th, 2004, 09:10 AM   #24
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true. the only problem is wen you mix it with booze
Yeah... But that's the case with lots of drugs, legal and illegal. I personally would rather people take homeopathic remedies than ecstasy or antidepressants. But that's just me

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Old June 28th, 2004, 06:15 PM   #25
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Well, I think that drugs should be legal. Alcohol is, in many cases, just as harmful or more harmful to others (while you are inebriated). If you want to mess yourself up, go ahead! We are more dangerous drunk in a car than high in a car.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 08:00 PM   #26
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theyre illegal for a purpose
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Old June 28th, 2004, 09:38 PM   #27
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Dfsg, your right it is not many people, but when one of those people turns out to be someone you know, thats one person too many. I think any drug that can be more beneficial then harmful for a medical use should be allowed. But people are not very responsible all the time, and with use of a drug like E is all to easy to end badly. There is no reason to put people in harms way like that, there is no reason to change that state wide yearly death number from 2 to 10.
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Old June 29th, 2004, 09:22 AM   #28
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Dfsg, your right it is not many people, but when one of those people turns out to be someone you know, thats one person too many. I think any drug that can be more beneficial then harmful for a medical use should be allowed. But people are not very responsible all the time, and with use of a drug like E is all to easy to end badly. There is no reason to put people in harms way like that, there is no reason to change that state wide yearly death number from 2 to 10.
I totally back up that comment.
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Old June 29th, 2004, 03:37 PM   #29
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Ok, you said you disagree, but then you said the same thing I said. Well a thousand deaths is a lot, and the few hundreds of the people that each drug user knows will cry. Not to mention the protest of many parents worried that their child may try E. (And if you know what the average parent is like, thats a lot of protest) Thats a lot of screams and tears, and all that put to the side, we cant argue about something and be like, "No one is going to miss a few thousand dead." I may have taken your post in the wrong way.
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Old June 29th, 2004, 11:24 PM   #30
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i think that drugs should be legal. if drinking and smoking are legal drugs than coke and weed should too. also todays society is rebelious and where there are rules there is a rebel waiting to break it. get rid of the rule and soon it becomes a lost fad...you see if the gov. hadnt made it illegal in the height of the hippe fad it would have left with it. also kids can die quicker on other drugs than weed. cough syrup for example, if drinken in large amounts you can get a buzz, but you have a higher risk of dieng than if you jumped in front of a semi. so just make them legal. thank you
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Old June 30th, 2004, 08:09 AM   #31
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Agreed, but thats it. Hard drugs, stay illegal like coke and glass. Those are a deffinate no.

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Old June 30th, 2004, 08:46 AM   #32
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Back on the ecstasy topic for a moment, Yes, I would be very upset if my best friend was one of the two people to die from the ecstasy.

Yet, if my friend took effexor, or Paxil, or Zoloft, they would have a much higher chance of death. Just look at the reports.

The FDA lied to us about ecstasy (go figure). The best reports they have on ecstasy resulted from a scientist studying crystal meth in mice. And Crystal meth is not ecstasy. When scientists did do unpublished reports on it, it was much less damaging than most other things we decide to put in our bodies.

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Old June 30th, 2004, 04:00 PM   #33
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Well if this is true (and I trust it is) then I cant honestly argue the E angle either way. But some people keep saying basically, [this drug. or drinking ] is legal and its bad, so since thats legal, so should other bad stuff. All drugs are not all the same. Withdrawl from coke can feel like someone taking away the closest person you know. That feeling is incrediblly different then other kinds of drugs, you cant blanket all these substances in one pile and say since some are legal, all should be. There is something called a responsible drinker, and to an extent, there is something called a responsible drug user. But once something becomes an addiction, you can no longer be in control and no longer be responsible.
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Old July 19th, 2004, 08:21 PM   #34
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true. the only problem is wen you mix it with booze
Yeah... But that's the case with lots of drugs, legal and illegal. I personally would rather people take homeopathic remedies than ecstasy or antidepressants. But that's just me
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Have you seen someone on E? That's not treating depression that's over kill!

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Old July 19th, 2004, 09:02 PM   #35
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I think drug shold be legaal let pepople do what thay want is long as thay dont hur t any one but them self
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Old July 19th, 2004, 10:49 PM   #36
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true. the only problem is wen you mix it with booze
Yeah... But that's the case with lots of drugs, legal and illegal. I personally would rather people take homeopathic remedies than ecstasy or antidepressants. But that's just me
Hahahah!

Have you seen someone on E? That's not treating depression that's over kill!
Yet it was used as an anti-depressant many years before ecstasy was all over the news for being so harmful. People recover from their seretonin deficiency much quicky after taking ecstasy than other anti-depressants. It has a lot of benefits over anti-depressants.

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Old July 20th, 2004, 09:58 AM   #37
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What i meant by over kill is, if you have seen someone on E, they are so happy they will hug a stranger. Then the next day its a huge harsh comedown.


I personally think all drugs should be legal, i smoke weed more than once a week and i find it way more beneficial than dangerous, it opens your mind, gives you ideas you would never have (brilliant for creative inspiration), makes it way more fun to be around people, everything is slightly more comical than usual, the bad side is feeling tired afterwards and hunger (although i dont count that as bad, its a side effect and i love eating).

It's really not as bad as the DEA like to make it out to be.

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Old July 22nd, 2004, 07:28 PM   #38
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I think drugs should not be legal because they will be the downfall of our society and crime will increase alot and will just cause lots of problems
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Old July 22nd, 2004, 09:05 PM   #39
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lol if you want them to be ligal then become pres. and make them ligal wiz
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I think drugs should not be legal because they will be the downfall of our society and crime will increase alot and will just cause lots of problems
Care to explain how?

Infact, if drugs were regulated, produced and controlled by the government, we would know by law exactly what would be in them, addicts could get their fix without dieing (at treatment centres) and the economy would just go up and up, because taxing drugs = money.

Amsterdam is a prime example of where this is working well. You don't see terrorist uprisings and drugged up hippys with machine guns mowing down families and what not.

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