Þorn

No, not porn, þorn! Or for you "th believers," thorn.

It's an old English letter þat was used for þe "th" sound like in þe words wiþ, þing, and þought. I've been very interested by þ lately because I þink þe "th" combination is fairly stupid. Also, I've been on a hating spree of þe French language and þis gives me anoþer þing to hate þe French about. I genuinely þink þat þ should make a return into þe English language.

PROS:

- Simple design. Not very easily confused wiþ oþer letters, maybe P and lowercase b, but at least it's better þan ð

- Easy to implement. Would not be difficult at all to return into þe English language. How hard is it to learn just one more letter of þe alphabet? And þere are proposals to change its name to "þe" so it doesn't look like porn anymore and rhyme wiþ Z so it fits perfectly at þe end of þe alphabet

- Still exists in some languages. Þis means þat it's on certain keyboards, so it would not, and is not currently, a problem at all to type

CONS:

- Kinda looks like porn. As I said, þere's a proposal to change it to "þe," so it's fixable

So, what do y'all þink? Do you support a return of þe þorn? Why or why not? Will you start using þorn like me?

Þanks for coming to my rant, have a good day.

-SouþernDude

It still does in a way get used now, there are plenty of "ye olde" shops. Where the "ye" should actually be "þe", but because of printing press for ease the y was used as a substitute because of the similar appearance, especially when at the time was commonly also written as yͤ

Is there also a certain letter for the th i the, there, they? Cause it's another sound than the one from þ

Originally Posted by SouthernDude

No, not porn, þorn! Or for you "th believers," thorn.

It's an old English letter þat was used for þe "th" sound like in þe words wiþ, þing, and þought. I've been very interested by þ lately because I þink þe "th" combination is fairly stupid. Also, I've been on a hating spree of þe French language and þis gives me anoþer þing to hate þe French about. I genuinely þink þat þ should make a return into þe English language.

PROS:

- Simple design. Not very easily confused wiþ oþer letters, maybe P and lowercase b, but at least it's better þan ð

- Easy to implement. Would not be difficult at all to return into þe English language. How hard is it to learn just one more letter of þe alphabet? And þere are proposals to change its name to "þe" so it doesn't look like porn anymore and rhyme wiþ Z so it fits perfectly at þe end of þe alphabet

- Still exists in some languages. Þis means þat it's on certain keyboards, so it would, and is not currently, a problem at all to type

CONS:

- Kinda looks like porn. As I said, þere's a proposal to change it to "þe," so it's fixable

So, what do y'all þink? Do you support a return of þe þorn? Why or why not? Will you start using þorn like me?

Þanks for coming to my rant, have a good day.

-SouþernDude

Thx for the readNow how do I find that letter

one of the few good things of english that it has the most basic latin characters, adding that would create more confusion and it's kind of confusing because looks like a b for me.

Originally Posted by HighVamp913

Thx for the readNow how do I find that letter

If you're on a Mac, go to System Preferences -> Keyboard -> Input Source -> click þe plus and select English - ABC - Extended, and you can use Option + T to type a þorn

If you're on a Windows, press Alt + 0222 for an uppercase Þorn and Alt + 0254 for a lowercase þorn

If you're on an iPhone or Android, þere are keyboard apps þat allow you to have different characters, such as þe þorn.

Originally Posted by Natacha

Is there also a certain letter for the th i the, there, they? Cause it's another sound than the one from þ

ðere is, and it's ðis character. However, English has long ignored differences voiced and unvoiced consonants, so it'd be sorta useless to bring back ð (pronounced "eth").

My mind is trying to decide what it looks like the most. "Porn" or "Born". xD

@SouthernDude, þorn star!

I would like to see ðe return of þorn, but alongside its voiced counterpart, eth (ð). Đen we could have ðe full range of old English "th" sound letters.

Originally Posted by HeyCameron

I would like to see ðe return of þorn, but alongside its voiced counterpart, eth (ð). Đen we could have ðe full range of old English "th" sound letters.

I argue ðat we don't bring back ð because of its similarity to "d." Also, English has long ignored differences between voiced and unvoiced sounds. Ðis is why I only proposed to bring back þorn, not ð.

But, it could aid in understanding ðe pronunciation of some words, so I'm not 100% sure where I stand on ðe return of ð, but I am certainly for ðe return of þorn.

All this looks very Icelandic.

(And this would present a problem for the word "with", which is pronounced with thorn in some dialects, and eth in others).

noooooooooooooooooooo just leave me with my th. stop making me so confused!