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Old April 5th, 2021, 01:27 PM   #1
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WHY GENIUSES ARE DISAPPOINTING?

Scientists, mathematicians, chess champions, prodigious engineers, prodigious detectives, prodigious economists, astronomers and other technical prodigies have one disappointing trait in common. Earlier when I hadn't met one (or thought that I hadn't), I guessed being in the company of a genius would be riveting, thrilling, exciting etc. Like watching 1978 movie ‘Don’, reading the entertaining excerpts of the novel 'One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich' (by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn), listening to great music etc. I had incorrectly thought that their presence is something worth looking forward to in life. But the reality really seems to be different. Now I know the feel of a company of a genius may be no better than workplace banality. I had presumed meeting a genius would be fun. But meeting with genius turned out to be an ordinary experience. It was not much pleasure.

Geniuses have this false reputation. I foolishly believed these folks were pleasantly dramatic. There is a misconception about aura of geniuses. I naively surmised standing near them gives wonderful sensations. I had expected that presence of genius creates surreal emotion. I was wrong.

It's painful. Geniuses are the best of humankind. If the best is boring, then is there anything to look forward to?

- PRTP GWD

P. S.: This topic was misunderstood in other forums also. It is not about socialising.

The matter is that geniuses were expected to be a pleasurable experience like say pleasure felt in reading a good book, pleasure felt in a delicious food, pleasure felt in watching a great movie, pleasure children feel in evening time play, pleasure felt in melodious music etc. The ones I met gave no such pleasure.

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Old April 6th, 2021, 04:59 PM   #2
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Old April 7th, 2021, 02:35 AM   #3
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This is the weirdest post i've ever read on VT
Yeah. I agree.

Geniuses are humans after all. Besides, what you described to feel was a genius in social interactions, not some scientist.

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Old April 7th, 2021, 02:47 AM   #4
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WHY GENIUSES ARE DISAPPOINTING?

Scientists, mathematicians, chess champions, prodigious engineers, prodigious detectives, prodigious economists, astronomers and other technical prodigies have one disappointing trait in common. Earlier when I hadn't met one (or thought that I hadn't), I guessed being in the company of a genius would be riveting, thrilling, exciting etc. Like watching 1978 movie ‘Don’, reading the entertaining excerpts of the novel 'One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich' (by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn), listening to great music etc. I had incorrectly thought that their presence is something worth looking forward to in life. But the reality really seems to be different. Now I know the feel of a company of a genius may be no better than workplace banality. I had presumed meeting a genius would be fun. But meeting with genius turned out to be an ordinary experience. It was not much pleasure.

Geniuses have this false reputation. I foolishly believed these folks were pleasantly dramatic. There is a misconception about aura of geniuses. I naively surmised standing near them gives wonderful sensations. I had expected that presence of genius creates surreal emotion. I was wrong.

It's painful. Geniuses are the best of humankind. If the best is boring, then is there anything to look forward to?

- PRTP GWD
Grab a beer and watch some more Tik Tok. Geniuses are not the freak show, you are looking for.

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Old April 7th, 2021, 04:29 AM   #5
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@Max the Disenchanter, @Stronk Serb, @Natacha,

Couldn't you come up with anything better? The best reply I got to this complaint is quoted below:
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sorry to hear that geniuses are boring, i've never met any so i wouldn't know. My friends are for the most part dummies which is why i must be having such a good time
I guess the moral of this story is, don't count on others, geniuses or not, to make you feel thrilled, riveted or anything else. In fact, reality is often not what we imagined or were told it was. This applies to many things.

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Old April 7th, 2021, 05:03 AM   #6
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If you want a good reply. Maybe the problem isn't them but you. Maybe your looking at stuff the wrong way. Maybe your not intelligent enough to understand what a genius say. Maybe you are not listening to what they say, or what they really do. Maybe they don't want to waste there time on someone who doesn't care about listening, learning and getting better understand of the greater world

I know people who are like that around me, until they listen and see me as who I am, and not a blond girl


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Old April 7th, 2021, 01:48 PM   #7
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Get a load of this guy, sorry not everyone can be a Rubik’s Cube master like yourself pal



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Old April 7th, 2021, 03:46 PM   #8
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During my two graduate years, I worked with a genius in various study groups - mostly math and science.

He was really boring in social interaction and barely able to make small talk. He also got bored quickly when the rest of us talked about mundane everyday stuff. He even became downright aggressive when it came to personal, more emotional topics. These were areas he wasn't interested in at all.

But although he remained a boring person, he learned to be more and more patient and to explain complex mathematical and scientific relationships to us noobs who were less interested in math and science. This got us through the exams. Thanks to him.

And then, at my uni, I met other geniuses who excelled not so much in the rational spectrum, but in the linguistic up to very creative levels, eg in arts. To work with them is really fun, because it's also my level. And having those folks around is very inspiring.

So, since genius is not equal to genius, I would not confirm this statement of the OP. There are so many other parts of a personality that you might never experience if you only work with such people in certain segments, e.g. on the job.

And to conclude from only one encounter with a genius to all genius people is, imo, quite unfair.

To put it out of context I like to cite a other stable genius who once said:

There are very fine people on both sides.








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Get a load of this guy, sorry not everyone can be a Rubik’s Cube master like yourself pal
I never claimed to have solved Rubik's cube. Read my posts carefully.

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Old April 8th, 2021, 11:41 PM   #10
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Old April 8th, 2021, 11:49 PM   #11
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Old April 9th, 2021, 05:58 AM   #12
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WHY GENIUSES ARE DISAPPOINTING?

Scientists, mathematicians, chess champions, prodigious engineers, prodigious detectives, prodigious economists, astronomers and other technical prodigies have one disappointing trait in common. Earlier when I hadn't met one (or thought that I hadn't), I guessed being in the company of a genius would be riveting, thrilling, exciting etc. Like watching 1978 movie ‘Don’, reading the entertaining excerpts of the novel 'One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich' (by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn), listening to great music etc. I had incorrectly thought that their presence is something worth looking forward to in life. But the reality really seems to be different. Now I know the feel of a company of a genius may be no better than workplace banality. I had presumed meeting a genius would be fun. But meeting with genius turned out to be an ordinary experience. It was not much pleasure.

Geniuses have this false reputation. I foolishly believed these folks were pleasantly dramatic. There is a misconception about aura of geniuses. I naively surmised standing near them gives wonderful sensations. I had expected that presence of genius creates surreal emotion. I was wrong.

It's painful. Geniuses are the best of humankind. If the best is boring, then is there anything to look forward to?

- PRTP GWD
So, either you didn't meet an actual genius or you are simply intellectually inferior to him to understand what he is doing and saying. Besides, if he seemed boring to you and if he was an actual genius, I can assure you that you were just as boring and annoying if not more to him than he to you. I have met quite a few really smart people (not geniuses) - what they almost all have in common, they are bored by small talk, by meaningless social interactions, they rather spend days working on some serious, difficult scientific problems. They don't care how your day went or why Ruby hooked up with 10tg guy this week, their mind is far too busy and far too great to waste it on such nonsenses. What they find fascinating, IS fascinating but for majority of people, who happen to be nothing but oblivious simpletons, it all seems boring... Maybe he is not the problem, but you are.
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Old April 9th, 2021, 06:02 PM   #13
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Well, what did you expect? The only potential genius I could describe as a fun person is an old friend of mine. Expecially if you get him drunk.

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Old April 9th, 2021, 06:52 PM   #14
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WHY GENIUSES ARE DISAPPOINTING?

Scientists, mathematicians, chess champions, prodigious engineers, prodigious detectives, prodigious economists, astronomers and other technical prodigies have one disappointing trait in common. Earlier when I hadn't met one (or thought that I hadn't), I guessed being in the company of a genius would be riveting, thrilling, exciting etc. Like watching 1978 movie ‘Don’, reading the entertaining excerpts of the novel 'One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich' (by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn), listening to great music etc. I had incorrectly thought that their presence is something worth looking forward to in life. But the reality really seems to be different. Now I know the feel of a company of a genius may be no better than workplace banality. I had presumed meeting a genius would be fun. But meeting with genius turned out to be an ordinary experience. It was not much pleasure.

Geniuses have this false reputation. I foolishly believed these folks were pleasantly dramatic. There is a misconception about aura of geniuses. I naively surmised standing near them gives wonderful sensations. I had expected that presence of genius creates surreal emotion. I was wrong.

It's painful. Geniuses are the best of humankind. If the best is boring, then is there anything to look forward to?

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Huh?

Hey feel free to PM, i have nothing better to do lmao
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Old April 9th, 2021, 08:48 PM   #15
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@Max the Disenchanter, @Stronk Serb, @Natacha, @BJade, @Gazebo, @lliam, @NoLimitGuy, @musicalguy,

This topic was misunderstood in other forums also. It is not about socialising.

The matter is that geniuses were expected to be a pleasurable experience like say pleasure felt in reading a good book, pleasure felt in a delicious food, pleasure felt in watching a great movie, pleasure children feel in evening time play, pleasure felt in melodious music etc. The ones I met gave no such pleasure.

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This topic was misunderstood in other forums also. It is not about socialising.

The matter is that geniuses were expected to give pleasure like say reading a good book, having delicious food, watching a great movie, children enjoying evening time play, listening to melodious music etc. The ones I met gave none of these.

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Im just confused on what your talking about, maybe English isn't your first language. are you saying that these 'geniuses' were not giving pleasure to
people, because people regardless on how smart they are aren't made to give other people 'pleasure' or happiness.

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Im just confused on what your talking about, maybe English isn't your first language. are you saying that these 'geniuses' were not giving pleasure to
people, because people regardless on how smart they are aren't made to give other people 'pleasure' or happiness.
Edited. I hope it clarifies.

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@Max the Disenchanter, @Stronk Serb, @Natacha, @BJade, @Gazebo, @lliam, @NoLimitGuy, @musicalguy,

This topic was misunderstood in other forums also. It is not about socialising.

The matter is that geniuses were expected to be a pleasurable experience like say pleasure felt in reading a good book, pleasure felt in a delicious food, pleasure felt in watching a great movie, pleasure children feel in evening time play, pleasure felt in melodious music etc. The ones I met gave no such pleasure.

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But everyone has different tastes in all those things, a good factual book to one person is boring to another. What's delicious food to one person might be bland or over powering to another. One person's taste in music might be another's hell. And if you've ever seen children playing you'd know how much they can fight and argue, so are anything but pleasurable

So what you experience as a unpleasant time might be an extremely enjoyable experience for someone else. I've seen lectures and talks by people who might be considered geniuses and found them interesting, others have found them boring and didn't understand it


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Old April 11th, 2021, 12:16 AM   #19
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WHY GENIUSES ARE DISAPPOINTING?

Scientists, mathematicians, chess champions, prodigious engineers, prodigious detectives, prodigious economists, astronomers and other technical prodigies have one disappointing trait in common. Earlier when I hadn't met one (or thought that I hadn't), I guessed being in the company of a genius would be riveting, thrilling, exciting etc. Like watching 1978 movie ‘Don’, reading the entertaining excerpts of the novel 'One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich' (by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn), listening to great music etc. I had incorrectly thought that their presence is something worth looking forward to in life. But the reality really seems to be different. Now I know the feel of a company of a genius may be no better than workplace banality. I had presumed meeting a genius would be fun. But meeting with genius turned out to be an ordinary experience. It was not much pleasure.

Geniuses have this false reputation. I foolishly believed these folks were pleasantly dramatic. There is a misconception about aura of geniuses. I naively surmised standing near them gives wonderful sensations. I had expected that presence of genius creates surreal emotion. I was wrong.

It's painful. Geniuses are the best of humankind. If the best is boring, then is there anything to look forward to?

- PRTP GWD

P. S.: This topic was misunderstood in other forums also. It is not about socialising.

The matter is that geniuses were expected to be a pleasurable experience like say pleasure felt in reading a good book, pleasure felt in a delicious food, pleasure felt in watching a great movie, pleasure children feel in evening time play, pleasure felt in melodious music etc. The ones I met gave no such pleasure.

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Whomever set this expectation to begin with lead you down a false path destined to end in disappointment.

Also there’s no indication by you that you filtered out that a lot of people with big egos profess to be “geniuses” but aren’t and yet you hold them to that standard.

People are people, it’s the work and insights that matter, and a lot of the interesting stuff is actually quite mundane.

Physics and some medical science technology is probably the most cutting edge stuff you’ll see right now on Earth. What more are you expecting exactly?
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@Max the Disenchanter, @Stronk Serb, @Natacha, @BJade, @Gazebo, @lliam, @NoLimitGuy, @musicalguy,

This topic was misunderstood in other forums also. It is not about socialising.

The matter is that geniuses were expected to be a pleasurable experience like say pleasure felt in reading a good book, pleasure felt in a delicious food, pleasure felt in watching a great movie, pleasure children feel in evening time play, pleasure felt in melodious music etc. The ones I met gave no such pleasure.

- PRTP GWD
Reality is not a movie. I bet you thought that meeting a genius would be like they are showing it in movies - Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, Walter Bishop etc. Then you met with the reality and your hopes didn't pay back... Seriously, grow up
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