Taxes

Originally Posted by Ralph.S.G.R

But the nature of voting is, that is public opinion we’re to suddenly lurch, the politicians would have to lurch with it, potentially changing any previously agreed upon ideas. Britain in the 50s, 60s and 70s had both conservative and labour governments that basically carried out similar policies. This period is known as the post-war consensus. However, in the late 70s, public opinion massively shifted, certain conservatives recognised that, and Margaret Thatcher achieved a huge victory, promising change from what we had.

I still want to go back to saying "Pull together in unity"
If we didn't, should people under 18, who work and not paying taxes be able to get free health care and free education like the rest of us?

Originally Posted by Natacha

I still want to go back to saying "Pull together in unity"
If we didn't, should people under 18, who work and not paying taxes be able to get free health care and free education like the rest of us?

Well yes they should... they are part of the dependent section of society, along with the very elderly.

Originally Posted by Ralph.S.G.R

Well yes they should... they are part of the dependent section of society, along with the very elderly.

The very elderly still pays taxes though.
The money they put aside wasn't taxed in the first place, but they are taxed every month, as they receive it

Originally Posted by Natacha

The very elderly still pays taxes though.
The money they put aside wasn't taxed in the first place, but they are taxed every month, as they receive it

Sure, but they also have the right to vote

Originally Posted by Ralph.S.G.R

Sure, but they also have the right to vote

Yes. I think this seems like being a cultural difference. We have great trust in our government and I'm not the least sad about paying taxes, even if I can't vote yet. And I say that while I would support right wing and we currently have left wing government. The politics doesn't change that much and the wellfare is not going away. I want to support that. It's not about the money. It's about feeling you've earned the safety net, if your were to fall.

Originally Posted by Natacha

Yes. I think this seems like being a cultural difference. We have great trust in our government and I'm not the least sad about paying taxes, even if I can't vote yet. And I say that while I would support right wing and we currently have left wing government. The politics doesn't change that much and the wellfare is not going away. I want to support that. It's not about the money. It's about feeling you've earned the safety net, if your were to fall.

As I said before... I would also be fine with paying tax on pay I earned under the age of 18... but I simultaneously don’t think it’s particularly moral

Get paid cash in hand so don’t have to pay tax

It is simply taxation without representation

Paying taxes has nothing to do with morality or representation in government. Or whether you are of legal age or not.

A state provides a range of services in many aspects of the daily life of its citizens that are essential for the functioning of the state and the benefit of society. Every citizen with a certain income level pays taxes so the state can maintain these services.

That, imo, is the sense of taxes in the simplest of terms.

Originally Posted by Blueisthecolour1

Get paid cash in hand so don’t have to pay tax

Receiving "black money", as we call it, can really bite you in the ass eventually. At least over here. Not recommended.

Originally Posted by Pultost

Receiving "black money", as we call it, can really bite you in the ass eventually. At least over here. Not recommended.

It will depend on how much you earn I think you can earn up to £12,000 before you pay any tax

Originally Posted by Blueisthecolour1

It will depend on how much you earn I think you can earn up to £12,000 before you pay any tax

I see. Well that makes more sense.

Absolutely not. This might sound like a shock, considering I am a guy for taxing everything, within reason, of course.

Considering the fact that minors cannot open or own companies, and that the work they usually do is poorly paid, or in case of craft school internships, entirely free, they shouldn't be taxed.

Besides, most work for youth or minors here is done through youth cooperations which act as middle-men between companies and workers and they are notorious for pocketing a lot of your hard-earned money. So essentially I get hired as a contractor of the youth cooperation for a job, but the company doesn't pay me directly, but through the cooperation which is supposed to handle all your taxes and benefits. According to Serbian law, if you are an employee, the employer has to pay all your taxes and benefits. Now, these cooperations are corrupt as hell. Aside from pocketing my untaxed money, which is common if you are paid by the hour, the worker cooperation didn't pay my taxes and benefits. I got a court letter saying they got reported and how they paid and reported my income and benefits to the Tax Authority, and how I am now registered to have officially worked those few months.

Now, there are good co-ops, but they mostly offer distant or hard manual jobs.

I guess but not at the same rate seeing as a minor you don’t get all the benefits of what tax dollars are used for