The Kill Team

[embers]

Various US soldiers on shooting frenzies? Gruesome photo evidence? Yeah, that sounds about right. I think the website summarises what happened, and it's that plus the photos that shocked me.

This site contains extremely graphic images and examples of US soldiers being inhumane.

http://www.rollingstone.com/kill-team

[Magus]

Site not found. But I have been there once. I was looking for charred bodies.

[Spook]

I watched a video at the site...it was horrific. I truly got a new grasp on what's going on in Afghanistan. :(

[embers]

It's the pictures that are the most disturbing. The one of the severed body and the one of the guy's head got me.

[Sogeking]

Damn saw the photos. They made me cringe.

[Magus]

Now you know why they hate America and go Alalalalala @flag [email protected] die America! Remember the Abu Ghraib incident? I can see that happening in Afghanistan. Killing poor and helpless people is what American soldiers are good at.

[Sugaree]

I like the attitude some people take that this is the entire military killing innocent lives and not a small group of hicks. This is disgusting beyond all levels of imagination. The soldiers lost their judgment and wanted to show off their prizes. But this will end up like another Abu Grahib where everyone thinks that the entire armed forces of the United States are exactly like these dumbasses. What a shame indeed.

[deadpie]

God bless our soldiers!

Pray for the soldiers!


Do that uh.... later.

[Iceman]

I like the attitude some people take that this is the entire military killing innocent lives and not a small group of hicks. This is disgusting beyond all levels of imagination. The soldiers lost their judgment and wanted to show off their prizes. But this will end up like another Abu Grahib where everyone thinks that the entire armed forces of the United States are exactly like these dumbasses. What a shame indeed.

Exactly, most people see one or two people, and frame the entire U.S. military.

[Continuum]

God bless America, dear folks. Now I'm off to puke on my toilet.

[Church]

Love how people are trying to summarize the millions of people in the armed forces by the actions of obviously mental ill people who happen to be in the Army, its not always possible to detect fucked up things in peoples minds like theirs when they join etc.

Its terrible what they did but that doesn't mean that's what the whole US Army is doing in the Middle East.

[Kahn]

You know, I'm not going to lie one bit to you all, I laughed my ass off at the music video. I mean, the way the guy just kept on running and the soldiers yelling, it just got me laughing.

They were insurgents. They were placing IED's. I mean, call me sick, but a kill's a kill, and if music is being played to it that just makes it more bad ass.

[Limelight788]

The United States has one of the strongest army in the world with great disciplines that I will always respect and admire. Sadly, a select few will resort to stuff like this, which is unacceptable and frame's the entire army.

These few reminds me of me reading the Vietnam War, where undisciplined soldiers like these we saw contributed to why we lost that war.

@Aeterna: That's not something to be laughing at and I find that to be quite disrespectful, especially if you're laughing while someone performs a heinous crime.

[Kahn]

@Aeterna: That's not something to be laughing at and I find that to be quite disrespectful, especially if you're laughing while someone performs a heinous crime.

Disrespectful as it may be, I couldn't help but imagine that in a movie, which is why I laughed.

War is extremely unfortunate, but it's the guilty pleasure of humanity. We will continue to fight conflict after conflict, and sometimes we need to take things lightly. We have so many damning, maddening factors of life we need to calm down. With the earth virtually shaking itself to death, and our two wars we don't have much to smile about, do we? Forgive me for taking humor to one unfortunate death.

Life ends. It's inevitable.

[Sage]

http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/hub/killteam/hero/407x603/dc1560fca2e39e15f55bf328af91b7e533c20c21.jpg
http://www.firstshowing.net/img2/Inglourious-Basterds-Dec11-FL-01.jpg

Those basterds.

[Iceman]

You probably heard we ain't in the prisoner-takin business, we in the killin Afghan business. And cousin, business is a boomin.

[embers]

I like the attitude some people take that this is the entire military killing innocent lives and not a small group of hicks. This is disgusting beyond all levels of imagination. The soldiers lost their judgment and wanted to show off their prizes. But this will end up like another Abu Grahib where everyone thinks that the entire armed forces of the United States are exactly like these dumbasses. What a shame indeed.

Agreed.

You know, I'm not going to lie one bit to you all, I laughed my ass off at the music video. I mean, the way the guy just kept on running and the soldiers yelling, it just got me laughing.

They were insurgents. They were placing IED's. I mean, call me sick, but a kill's a kill, and if music is being played to it that just makes it more bad ass.

To be honest, I was mildly amused. As in, I was kind of cheering the insurgent on after he managed to evade the explosion and first bunch of bullets. He was so determined to live. But the aftermath pictures shut me right the hell up...

[Continuum]

To be honest, I was mildly amused. As in, I was kind of cheering the insurgent on after he managed to evade the explosion and first bunch of bullets. He was so determined to live. But the aftermath pictures shut me right the hell up...

It's the thrill. Practically, they're the same with action movies. Except those are real bodies. And real blood. And real douchebags.

[Spook]

I didn't look at the pics...and I definately did NOT want to. So...I saw a video and this soldier's like: "Let me check out my kill." Dead people are prizes to them now?????? I don't know HOW somebody can be that EVIL. :(

[Daniel_]

It's war, it's not humane. As long as it's the enemy their doing that to, who cares.

[Magus]

It's war, it's not humane. As long as it's the enemy their doing that to, who cares.

So, weak, helpless and unarmed civilians are now enemies?

[Azunite]

So, VT. Do you fucking believe my "fetishes and fantasies" now ?

[Continuum]

It's war, it's not humane. As long as it's the enemy their doing that to, who cares.

Then there's the Geneva Convention. Seriously, you're practically saying that "enemy" cannot possibly equate with humanity.

[embers]

So, VT. Do you fucking believe my "fetishes and fantasies" now ?

Those fantasies being unarguably proven by the convenient killing spree of no less than two American soldiers...

[Limelight788]

Disrespectful as it may be, I couldn't help but imagine that in a movie, which is why I laughed.

War is extremely unfortunate, but it's the guilty pleasure of humanity. We will continue to fight conflict after conflict, and sometimes we need to take things lightly. We have so many damning, maddening factors of life we need to calm down. With the earth virtually shaking itself to death, and our two wars we don't have much to smile about, do we? Forgive me for taking humor to one unfortunate death.

Life ends. It's inevitable.I'm not sure how wars are something that we need to take lightly. Romanticizing or lightening wars feelings, while sounds good on paper, fails to expose the reality of the war and people kind of like to know where their love ones are fighting to get the image of the dangers they face.

There are many factors that are over-exaggerated. War is not one of them.

[eatthis9999]

It's war, it's not humane. As long as it's the enemy their doing that to, who cares.

Well apart from the fact all the people involved recieved dis-honourable discharges, it is classed as a war crime

these are the seven basic war crimes

1.Persons hors de combat and those not taking part in hostilities shall be protected and treated humanely.
2.It is forbidden to kill or injure an enemy who surrenders or who is hors de combat.
3.The wounded and sick shall be cared for and protected by the party to the conflict which has them in its power. The emblem of the "Red Cross," or of the "Red Crescent," shall be required to be respected as the sign of protection.
4.Captured combatants and civilians must be protected against acts of violence and reprisals. They shall have the right to correspond with their families and to receive relief.
5.No one shall be subjected to torture, corporal punishment or cruel or degrading treatment.
6.Parties to a conflict and members of their armed forces do not have an unlimited choice of methods and means of warfare.
7.Parties to a conflict shall at all times distinguish between the civilian population and combatants. Attacks shall be directed solely against military objectives.

all have been broken, an enemie is a combat force of the other nation, the civilian's are not part of the army so in NO way involved in the combat, this is why there killings of civilians and murder/torture of captives is not allowed, under the law any of the involved could be sentenced to death any time from when found guilty untill natural death.

[Perseus]

So, VT. Do you fucking believe my "fetishes and fantasies" now ?

Because Turkey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish-Kurdish_conflict#Human_rights_abuses) is obviously perfect!

[Sage]

The people who did this may not be representative of all soldiers but I can't stress enough from a psychological background that the many, many years we've spent in these countries is taking a toll on the mental health of our soldiers who commonly see multiple (2-4 at present) tours and the more time we spend there the worse their health will become and the more we will see things like this. So many come back and require excessive amounts of painkillers, anti-depressants, therapy, and other things that I have very little to no doubt that if we do not get out of these countries soon the military is going to see a worse deterioration of their soldiers.

How dangerous these people were before enlisting in the armed forces can be debated, but I am also sicked by the inaction of many people who knew it was going on. I have not a single shred of doubt that regardless of who all these soldiers were in the past, prolonged exposure to this pathetically useless show of force in the Middle East has done irreparable damage to their mental well being. Like it or not, war criminals like these scumbags are the collateral result of a ridiculous conflict so many of you support and attempt to justify.

It's war, it's not humane. As long as it's the enemy their doing that to, who cares.
Here's who cares: Anybody with one iota of empathy for their fellow human beings. I'm sickened that you seem entirely complacent with all of this- Had several Afghan men desecrated US soldiers in this manner, I have little to no doubt that it would simply reaffirm your belief that this war is justified. This is without a doubt one of the most offensive posts I've read on this board yet: And believe you me, I am not one easily offended.

[Memory]

I'm kinda not surprised

[BOBBY HILL]

America, the land of the free. :)

[TheMatrix]

I didn't look at the pics...and I definately did NOT want to. So...I saw a video and this soldier's like: "Let me check out my kill." Dead people are prizes to them now?????? I don't know HOW somebody can be that EVIL. :(
welcome to america

[Kahn]

So, VT. Do you fucking believe my "fetishes and fantasies" now ?

Turkey is a beacon of hope and good will. (http://ecohr.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/human-rights-violations-in-turkey/)

[Azunite]

1- I see that you too have a hatred, towards us.
2- We are talking about soldiers killing innocent civilians, we are not talking about killing that has occurred between two hostile nations, who kill each other YET only we are blamed.
3- I love it when people give useless statistics, rather than giving real numbers. This also occurred in Greek and Armenian genocides. They said a million Armenians were killed, but there wasn't even a one million Armenian population in all Turkey, leave East. They said it was a Greek genocide, when they made invasion plans on İzmir, and rioted all over Eastern Turkey to stage a foothold for the Greek invasion. So the guilt is that we killed them when they killed us. Wish my ancestors didn't kill Greeks so that they would be called
" the ones who made a Turkish Genocide ".

I hope you didn't skip one bit while reading, I hate it when people don't properly read what I write and give crappy stuff as an answer. You people have one "Truth" staged in your mind, refused to accept any other opinions.

[Sith Lord 13]

1- I see that you too have a hatred, towards us.
2- We are talking about soldiers killing innocent civilians, we are not talking about killing that has occurred between two hostile nations, who kill each other YET only we are blamed.
3- I love it when people give useless statistics, rather than giving real numbers. This also occurred in Greek and Armenian genocides. They said a million Armenians were killed, but there wasn't even a one million Armenian population in all Turkey, leave East. They said it was a Greek genocide, when they made invasion plans on İzmir, and rioted all over Eastern Turkey to stage a foothold for the Greek invasion. So the guilt is that we killed them when they killed us. Wish my ancestors didn't kill Greeks so that they would be called
" the ones who made a Turkish Genocide ".

I hope you didn't skip one bit while reading, I hate it when people don't properly read what I write and give crappy stuff as an answer. You people have one "Truth" staged in your mind, refused to accept any other opinions.

There is the difference between the acts of a few individuals, who, if these allegations are true, will be disciplined, and organized, state condoned mass murder.

[Azunite]

Mass murder? So you guys think we went on Greek hunts on the streets with rusty hunting rifles and sliced our way through towards national cleansing?

[Sith Lord 13]

Human Right's Watch 2006:
Turkish government forces have, during the conflict with the PKK, also committed serious violations of international human rights and humanitarian law, including torture, extrajudicial killings, and indiscriminate fire.

[Azunite]

Human Right's Watch 2006:
Turkish government forces have, during the conflict with the PKK, also committed serious violations of international human rights and humanitarian law, including torture, extrajudicial killings, and indiscriminate fire.

That I wouldn't deny. Though the enemy would have done the same, provided we didn't capture / kill them

[anonymous53]

This is the most horrible thing I have seen, this is not what American soldiers should be about, for that matter any soldier. I'm very hard to sicken and this almost made me throw up,

[Sith Lord 13]

That I wouldn't deny. Though the enemy would have done the same, provided we didn't capture / kill them

The abuses of one side doesn't justify the abuses of the other.

[Azunite]

That is why Kurds take no prisoners.