sleepover awkwardness... :O

[Matt Matoran]

hey, so i recently had a sleepover with a friend and things got a bit awkward there. we usually sleep on the same bed because there's not enough room on the floor. anyway, we were sleeping there and i wake up in the middle of the night to find that his ass is on my dick. i just went to sleep when i felt that cuz he was warm and i was really tired. i woke up another time and this time found my hand on his dick with this hand on top of mine. i could like feel his entire dick through his pjs and it really freaked me out. i didnt think he was awake so i slowly got my hand out of there....

now that im thinking about the whole thing, i did enjoy being so close to him... just not the whole hand on dick thing... that part was a little strange... but the rest was great though, i would do that again if he wanted to...

im just wondering what this means... any ideas?

[AussieBiBoy]

Before we get a whole bunch of people saying its JUST hormones, its not, though they do contribute. You clearly have some form of sexual attraction to him but that doesnt mean your gay/bi, you are just curious.

[scuba steve]

Well you said that you were waking up each time and found yourself in awkward positions, couldn't the whole ordeal just be coincidence?

[Matt Matoran]

hey, thanks for the replies guys! um.. im pretty sure this wasnt a coincidence cuz in the morning after we both got up, he was awefully touchy feely... like rubbing my thighs and leaning on my back... yea im pretty sure im straight... but as you guys said... i might just be curious...

any other suggestions / ideas on what went down here?

[Virtual Guy]

Maybe a coincidence or maybe he was doing it to you.

[grstl]

I had a similar experience. This guy and I decided to share a bed. We just had our shirts off and left eveything else on....but, while sleeping I was cuddled up behind him and I woke up with my arm over him and my hand over his privates. He didn't seem to mind if he noticed, so I reached in and felt around a little (we had talked about stuff but not done anything yet). But when he woke up we both got horny and we jerked off. Nothing really awkward. Turns out he was gay. I bet anything with a straighter guy would be really awkward. The times I tried stuff with straight friends they usually let me, but didn't respond much, which was really awkward.

[Matt Matoran]

thanks to everyone who has helped out so far! alright, so im going to a friends birthday party with him tomorrow... should i talk to him about the whole thing? it doesnt seem like he "remembers" anything... although i tried talking to him about the sleepover and he tried to avoid talking about it... what should i talk to him about tomorrow night?

[Bryc67]

i did the same thing and then foung out i was bi but everytime we go a little farther and last time we ended up blowing eachother so ya its pretty normal and not that akward unless hes completely straight :) but def try to talk to him!

[MacMilker]

Well there is definitely something to be said with sharing of body warmth of the same sex.
NO matter what sexuality someone it whether they admit it or not they enjoy same sex contact as much as they might enjoy opposite sex contact.
I believe there is some sort of brotherhood/sisterhood bond between friends so that could of had everything to do with it.
Whether or not it leads to any sexuality discovering on your part I wouldnt base your conclusion solely on what happened that night.

[Matt Matoran]

hey thanks guys for posting! yea im not too worried about what i might end up being (sexuality wise), but i just dont know what to talk to him about at the party... i want to ask him more about the whole thing...

the problem is that i currently am dating a girl, but all i can think of right now is kissing my friend... ive kissed my girlfriend plenty of times before, but i want to see what its like with a guy... but thats as far as i am willing to go with my friend...

any suggestions about what i should talk to him about at the party and what i should about these new feelings?

[grstl]

Just be careful not to ty to have both a girlfriend and guyfriend at the same time......even though I really wish I could. Unless everyone is totally open and ok with it, it could wrong someone or get really complicated. At least that is what everyone here said answering my thread.

[Matt Matoran]

haha, yea... im not sure if i want him as a boyfriend, but more just to see what kissing a guy is like... i like being with my girl friend, but i think i have some feelings for my friend too... but only for him... not for any other guys... im thinking its because of what happened at that sleepover...

how should i approach him at the party to talk about what happened? i think we are really good friends so i might just be able to ask him, but i dont want it to seem all awkward and weird when i do...

[Severus Snape]

If he is avoiding the subject he is probably feeling guilty. This could be for a variety of reason; he gave into temptation he considers immoral or against his religious beliefs, he considers himself straight and is struggling to answer the question of why he wanted to touch you and vice versa. For whatever reason it might be best not to talk about it and let his actions speak for him. Next time you have him over stay awake but pretend to be asleep.

Maybe a coincidence or maybe he was doing it to you.

Definitely not coincidence imo

[grstl]

Kissing a guy is fun: nearness, touching all over and tonguing all rolled up into one. My hottest kiss was with a random cute black guy. We just were really rurned on by each other. I think that is what made it so hot. Just be sure if you kiss a guy that both of you are really into it. Nothing is worse than being intto it and the other person turns into a brick wall and pulls away. Good luck.

[tyler007]

Hey I agree with what Christian said. I love sleeping with friends, and I'm a cuddler at night too, all my friends know this. And they still share a bed with me at sleep overs. I think what happened was ok, and you seem to be ok with too. I don't think I would put too much pressure on him, yet. So just sleep together again sometime and see what happens, a slumber party might not be the best place to talk to him about or to try to repeat it.
As for the kissing gos, kissing boys is a lot of fun too. I hope you can try it with him sometime. But take things slow and just experiment, with it. You don't want to freak him out.
I know you said that you don't want him as a boyfriend and that you do have a girl friend. I had tried to have both back in February, and it blew up in my face. So know I just have a boyfriend right now. I'm BI, by the way. And lots of people know, but just take it slow and have fun.

[Dalman]

Let us know how it turns out. I hope that it does not affect your friendship. If you do not force the situation then it should work out just fine.

[sieg]

maybe you like being really close to friends

[Matt Matoran]

hey everyone thanks for all the advice! sadly he didnt come to the party today since he had a "project to work on"... he didnt tell anyone that hes not coming... he just didnt show up... im not sure whats going on right now... do you think hes trying to avoid me? im going to meet him again on sunday during our volunteer time so that might be the next time i see him... thanks again for everyone's help!

[Dalman]

You have no evidence that he us avoiding, so the best thing is to assume he is not avoiding you. When you see him, if I were you, I would not force the issue just be calm.

[Portable Desert]

I just posted a thread exactly like this, imma be watching for an answer too :o

[Matt Matoran]

hey guys, just came back from my volunteer time with my friend. so heres what happened: both of us were just playing around like he was lifting me on his back (and my hard dick was on his ass and he felt it.. im pretty sure he did...) anyway we were both playing around and then another friend comes by and brings my friend to the side and is like "dude, the girls (who are related to my friend) over there think you are gay... what do you say to that?" my friend didnt know what to say and i could see that as soon as he saw that i had heard it, his face just fell... his entire mood just went down and he looked like he was going to cry right there... i told him that he shouldnt care what they said because they are just probably playing a joke, but his mood didnt get any better until lunch time when i put my hand on his thigh and was just joking around about me and him getting it on...

im not sure whats going on in his head right now... im thinking that he was upset because he might actually be gay... is this just me thinking too much into it? or do you guys think he was actually upset because his cousins were playing a joke on him and i heard it? besides this, nothing between us has really changed as of today...

[smitty35]

If you seem to enjoy then why bother doing anything to change it? If you like it so much, then let it keep on happening.

[Curoz]

All seems good so far. He still wants to be near you, and didn't mind you touching him. Take your time and don't force it on to him. Take time to think how you feel about him. My guess Would be he is gay or bi, and got embarrassed when he got told that as he's trying to keep it undercover.
Just to Finnish, you are really lucky to have a friend you are so close to. I wish I had the same. Make sure your good to him and don't force him. I think you need to get together one on one, preferably a sleep over where your more relaxed, and ask him if he's gay or bi or even curious, and that you support him and are even a little curious yourself.
You will know where to go from there based on his reaction.

Let us know how it goes, as this has the potential to be a real heartwarming story.

[Matt Matoran]

aww, thanks. yea, i haven't really talked to him much all week, but we meeting again at our volunteer place on sunday. last week he brought up how we wont really see each other as much next year since we wont be volunteering at the same place... i was actually happy that he was thinking so far ahead of time, but i dont know if he is just being friendly in this way or if he is worried that we dont have enough time to really get anywhere...

ill keep you guys posted on how it all goes! thanks!

[Matt Matoran]

hey guys, i just wanted to update everyone on whats going on right now... so i met him today for like an hour and we just talked like normal. i got a hair cut today (finally) and when he walked in he was like "niiiiicceee" and put his hand in my hair and was like playing around with it... after that we both sat next to each other and were talking about life and i write "do i look sexy?" on his paper and hes like "yeeaaaaa" and then is like "dude, you know that i love you... harry can't take you away from me... i loved you first" (harry is another close friend of mine who doesnt really have anything to do with this story)... anyway... yea we were both touchy-feely like usual, but i didnt know what to make of his comment.... i feel like we are both getting closer but i dont know what to do now... im really confused and want to move forward... any ideas?

[Curoz]

All seems good if you want to go out with him.
I would suggest asking him out, because teenage guys don't get that touchy feely without having feelings for each other.
I would say that from what I've heard, the two of you are full-on flirting with each other.
You Have to ask yourself if you feel an emotional and physical connection to him, and if it would make you happy to be with him as a boyfriend.

[Matt Matoran]

yea! now that you mention it, we are a lot more touchy feely than other guys... this also reminded me of a conversation we had last week about if either of us were gay we would let the other know... im pretty sure he is waiting for me to say something... i guess thats the best thing to do now! ill just have to tell him what im feeling and hope that he feels the same... :D ill ask him privately on sunday sometime (since thats the time we get to hang out the most) wish me luck guys! :D

[Curoz]

Good Luck Matt. Let us know how it goes.

[Matt Matoran]

hey guys, i just got back from hanging out with my friend. we had a lot of fun today! we talked for a long time about some deep things at school. right before we left, i told him how i had been wondering for a while what it was like to kiss another guy and he said that he had thought the same thing for a while. he said that it was probably like kissing a girl, but just the other person might have a bigger mouth or something. after that we both got really quiet and were kinda just staring off into no where. after that, we talked about other things and then somehow got onto the topic of sex. i was like "dude, we should totally go over there and do it right now, but im the guy" my friend just looked at me and was like "all you'll be seeing is the ceiling" then i said "yea but im still the guy" and he said "oh yea i know that" and stuck his tongue out. just then his dad called and said that he came to pick us both up. as we were walking out we were both talking about the same topic and i was saying that i want to give and he should receive and he was saying that he wanted to do both. then we got into his dad's car and stopped talking about it...

im just wondering if this is normal for a possibly straight friend to be talking to me about... or if he is actually thinking about doing what we were talking about... any help would be awesome!

[Curoz]

That's not normal for straight guys. If sex comes up (which it always does) that stuff is not mentioned. From the silence you described it sounds like serious sexual tension. I think your friend wants you. And by your posts it seems like you want him. You should ask him if he is bi or gay, and tell him what you feel like.

[Zazu]

That's not normal for straight guys.

Rubbish.

I think it's perfectly normal for people to be talking about sex with each other. Starts as a teen and carries on through later life. Nothing to feel bad about, it's not abnormal at all.

OP, the situation you're in sounds quite similar to what a lot of people here will have gone through. My best advice is just to sit back, chill and enjoy whatever might occur. Always take into consideration the fact that having sex with someone can seriously change your relationship with them for the better or for the worse (or could just leave things neutral) and make sure you're read up about relevant subjects (STIs, condom useage e.t.c.). You should also always make sure it's someone you know well and trust (imo) so that they will keep it stchum if need be.

[Matt Matoran]

yea i was thinking about this today while coming home and i dunno if he actually likes me or if he was just joking about the whole thing and trying to be funny... we have recently become a lot closer so it might be him trying to let out his strangely funny side (if any of you know what i mean)...

in the car ride back i up my hand on his leg (at the top towards the knee) and moved it slowly down to about 1/5 the way to his waist (i was trying to be funny and see how far he would let it go) and he once i got to that point he was like "no, not today" and gave me a wink... im not sure what to make of this either...

my gut tells me that he was just joking around on that day but my heart wants to think that he really ment something by the whole thing... any ideas?

[Aussie16]

All I can say is you are lucky :P
xxxx

[Curoz]

I wasn't clear above. I meant that guys talk about sex all the time, but never about with each other unless there is some curiosity there.

[Matt Matoran]

hey guys, thanks for the replies! oh, that makes a lot more sense then... so should i just tell him how i feel and hope for the best? what will it change if he doesnt feel the same way about me?

[Sosaku]

i know a guy who messes with me more now that he knows i'm gay, he's straight, but he just plays around, maybe you'll get lucky lol...good luck

[Matt Matoran]

hey thanks for the replies! i think im going to just let him know how im feeling and hope for the best... i think ive come to terms with losing him / our relationship changing if he doesn't accept what i say... im just hoping that it all turns out well! I'll keep you guys posted on what happens next! thanks!

[Starlight Blaze]

Good luck! This is great, I wish it would happen to me!
But it sounds like you're happy, which we need more of, so I'm happy for you!

[ccrunner]

Exactly what aussiebiboy said

[Matt Matoran]

haha thanks guys! i just met him today randomly and on the way back i was like playing with his hand (mine was around his hand) and then he took his hand out of mine and stuck his pointer finger into my hand and was moving it in and out kinda slowly for a bit... i didnt say anything and i think he thought i didnt get what he was doing so he tried to play it off as if he were trying to open my hand and check out my palm... im absolutely set on telling him how i feel on sunday now! i think its going to go really well! thanks again to the VT community and everyone who helped me for all this time! :D

[Curoz]

No problem. From what we've all heard, and now this it seems highly likely this will work out. Don't forget to fill us in on what happens on Sunday.
And good luck.

[blaine97]

Good luck.

[Matt Matoran]

hey guys i just got back from hanging out with my friend today... it didnt go very well... i basically told him what i was feeling and he was alright with it, but he told me that he didnt feel the same way back and that he was just being playful since we were really good friends... i guess this didnt work out the way i had hoped for at all.... :( thanks to everyone who helped me along the way though.... :)

[DerBear]

sorry it did not work out for you

[tyler007]

Hey Im sorry to that it did not go the way you planed and hoped for. But dont give up all hope just yet... What i mean is respect his wishes, but all you have been thinking about this day for a while, and maybe he has not. So give he a few days to think and get used to what you told him... and he may still surprise you yet.

I hope that you two can still be freinds, and be playful and that it wont be awkaward....

[Matt Matoran]

yea, he was pretty chill about the whole thing today... so i mean we are still going to be friends and i think all the touchy feely stuff is still going to happen (maybe more now that he knows i like it) haha im just happy that i got it out there and it didnt epic fail in my face :P yea ill def be on the look out for anything else that might happen soon.... who knows what might happen sooner or later?

[Curoz]

It was worth a try. Shame it didn't go 100% as you would have liked. But as others have said don't give up all hope. But still, don't put any preassure on him.

[greekyogurt]

Shame it didn't work out, but shit happens, right?
It's good that he didn't freak out or anything though, means he trusts you. (: I hope everything works out from here on out.

[Matt Matoran]

yay! there might still be hope yet! he was talking with some of my friends (who he doesnt usually talk to since hes not really in our social circle at school...) but anyway, after he left my friends were saying how he was acting like he was gay... im not sure what that means but they are usually right about who is and who isnt (they havent figured out that i like that friend of mine since i dont really talk about it or even show it out around anyone except on here)... but im sure they werent just trying to be mean to him since they are all nice kids! sooooo im hoping that something does happen and that we can talk about what i said to him yesterday sometime soon and hopefully it will go well! does anyone else think this is crazy? or is it something that could possibly happen?

[anonymous53]

Maybe, :) But don't get your hopes up too high.

[Sosaku]

you could just be seeing hints...trust me...it happens...

[tyler007]

Hey what important right now is that your still freinds. You can still hang out and have fun... maybe there will not be any more sleep over awkwardness,, or who knows ( i would start asking freind to have a sleep ove and invite you both.... HAHA :) )

Hang in there....

[JoshPagan]

Well if you enjoyed it, that's fine. You do what you think is right. It's your choice.

[Bkylblk]

It doesn't necessarily mean anything, there is no need to look that far into it

[Matt Matoran]

hey everyone, i got back a little while ago and wanted to update on whats going on so someone might be able to help! (sry i no this has been going on for a while now)...

so anyway, today we were talking and i was being all touchy feely and my friend says "dude, stop acting gay, we all know you're not..." i didnt no if he just forgot what i told him last week... but i didnt say anything back to that... when we were walking outside to get picked up, i was talking to him about his haircut and was like "dude, that haircut makes you look..." and he finished off the sentence for me saying "yea it makes me look gay" and then he kept going being like "yea i think im like half gay" and i was like "what?" and then he just avoids the topic and we talk about something else...

anyone think this was a slight confession of sorts? im not sure if im looking too far into it right now or if he actually just kinda came out and didnt want to continue... any help would be really appreciated!

[AnnaxSanity]

A situation like this is how I discovered I'm bisexual. It can happen pretty quickly, you wake up in an awkward spot, and boom, your head is turning.

[Aeroflux17]

its not hormonal or coincidence.

i think theres attraction between of both of you.
you are dreaming each others phantasms.

well. im happy that you ask it here. just think twice before making crazy stuffs.

[wwwood]

Well.... what happened?

[Ukboy123]

hmmm ... it sounds to me that maybe he is avoiding the topic because now you have told him about your feelings for him he is starting to feel the same way but like people have told you before in this thread DON'T what ever you do is pressure him and also don't get your hopes to high cos you have been really good in not pressuring him :) but what i would say to him when its just you two alone is ask him start out if he has feelings for you like you do him.

Hope everything goes well and keep us updated :) GOOD LUCK :D

[JohnHoper]

You just like the feeling of having someone there with you. That's it :)

[Rayquaza]

sounds alright, tell him soon about what he did and tell him u liked it

[steve14]

matt, thanks for sharing... ive had a similar situation, and honestly; i think that he is just like you are. I know that tomorrow is a holiday, but if you guys still go to volunteer, just ask him about what happened the other day. ask him if he feels like hes confused, or curious. explain to him that you feel like that too. tell him how you have your gf, but you are interested in him... ask him if thats how he feels. tell him its ok to share your feelings with you. you guys sound like best friends! :) i hope everything goes well; keep us updated!

[tyler007]

matt, thanks for sharing... ive had a similar situation, and honestly; i think that he is just like you are. I know that tomorrow is a holiday, but if you guys still go to volunteer, just ask him about what happened the other day. ask him if he feels like hes confused, or curious. explain to him that you feel like that too. tell him how you have your gf, but you are interested in him... ask him if thats how he feels. tell him its ok to share your feelings with you. you guys sound like best friends! :) i hope everything goes well; keep us updated!

This sound like a pretty good idea to me too... i hope it all works out for you not matter what, you choose to do.

[The Joker]

This guy honestly sounds like he's bisexual or possibly gay, just not quite comfortable with it. Be careful, he might be easily irritable. Try not to push the subject, he's probably quite sensitive about it.

[Matt Matoran]

oh. my. god. last night was amazing guys! we had a sleepover after an intense party and my friend came over too! we all played around and then went to sleep, but me and my friend stayed awake and just talked. i told him that my friend sent me some great pr0n and my friend wanted to see it so we got my comp out and watched it together and he really enjoyed it... he was kinda shaking and trying not to watch it, but was like imitating what i was saying when i was saying i liked parts of it... after that we both were really horny but we heard some movement downstairs so we went to sleep so we wouldnt get caught...

i woke up later and found my hand around the waist of my friend and my dick on his ass again. i enjoyed the feeling and then went to sleep again. i woke up again and found my hand up his shirt on his nipples and my dick pressed hard against his ass and my other hand on his hard dick... my friend was pretending to be asleep since when i tickled him he giggled, but before that he didnt say anything while i was like moving myself around... we both talked while i was still in that position and then we went to sleep... i woke up in the morning with one hand up his shirt and one hand on his ass and my dick on his ass also.. it was sooo hot for me but he didnt say anything about it in the morning... he pretended like he didnt remember any of it...

so im just wondering what this means? why would he pretend to not remember any of it when we had such a good time and he was clearly awake when this all happened... im really happy that this happened finally but im not sure what to make of it...

[DerBear]

This guy honestly sounds like he's bisexual or possibly gay, just not quite comfortable with it. Be careful, he might be easily irritable. Try not to push the subject, he's probably quite sensitive about it.

i would have too agree with this

oh. my. god. last night was amazing guys! we had a sleepover after an intense party and my friend came over too! we all played around and then went to sleep, but me and my friend stayed awake and just talked. i told him that my friend sent me some great pr0n and my friend wanted to see it so we got my comp out and watched it together and he really enjoyed it... he was kinda shaking and trying not to watch it, but was like imitating what i was saying when i was saying i liked parts of it... after that we both were really horny but we heard some movement downstairs so we went to sleep so we wouldnt get caught...

i woke up later and found my hand around the waist of my friend and my dick on his ass again. i enjoyed the feeling and then went to sleep again. i woke up again and found my hand up his shirt on his nipples and my dick pressed hard against his ass and my other hand on his hard dick... my friend was pretending to be asleep since when i tickled him he giggled, but before that he didnt say anything while i was like moving myself around... we both talked while i was still in that position and then we went to sleep... i woke up in the morning with one hand up his shirt and one hand on his ass and my dick on his ass also.. it was sooo hot for me but he didnt say anything about it in the morning... he pretended like he didnt remember any of it...

so im just wondering what this means? why would he pretend to not remember any of it when we had such a good time and he was clearly awake when this all happened... im really happy that this happened finally but im not sure what to make of it...

i think he want a relationship or more but he is scared of what people might think of him when he comes out

but their is still a small possibiltiy that he just enjoys your company

but try not to force yourself on him with this subject just be careful

Good Luck

[tyler007]

I think its sounding more and more likey that he is very courious too, but does not want to admit it...i think he enjoys the feeling too or he would not continue to sleep with you at sleep overs...
Sometimes boys are hard to "read or get" i think you should just keep doing what you are doing... :)

[Zman2015]

I say u should have a sleepover with just him watch porn then see what happens

[DJR_Devin]

yah i think either he put his hands there or maybe you were sleep moving, Do you like him?

[Contra]

I think this may be the right time to talk about what happened, you should bring the subject up and tell him what happened at night, all the touching and groping and ask him what he thinks about it.

[steve14]

is this the same guy that you like? it sounds like you guys are a good match.. just dont be afraid to talk to him about it... being honest is key!

[paul955]

I just wanna say this has been the most entertaining VT story I've read here haha. Ill be waiting for you to keep us posted!

[Matt Matoran]

hey guys thanks for the all the quick replies! yea we were talking about what would happen if HIS parents caught us looking at porn at his house at a sleepover and he said that they would probably kill him... we got around to talking about what would happen if we were doing it and his parents came in also... and he said his PARENTS would kill him, but never said anything about not liking it himself... he said that his parents wouldnt like it if he turned out to be gay.. when we talked about kissing though he said he doesnt want to try it with another guy but didnt say if he wanted to try it with me or not... i feel like im just going around in circles with him right now... should i just ask him plain and simple if he wants to do anything? i cant keep him outta my head right now since of what just happened... when i was chatting with other friends they told me that i was talking about this friend too much.. any ideas on if im really liking him or if its just that this was something new for me and thats why im liking it this much?? thanks!

[Starlight Blaze]

Well...truthfully I think you like him
and I think he's at least curious
so try to ask him very indirectly
I guess that's what you've been doing huh?
Well try to be a bit more blunt, some guys can be slow and dense (sorry no offense to him!)

[Ukboy123]

Yes i think you should just ask him straight out "Do you want to do anything with me?" and tell ask him if he feels the same way as you do :) hope all goes well :D good luck.

[DerBear]

I dunno maybe you are trying to hard or wanting this to happen too much that it make you very acurate about what you hear like it sounds like you are trying to cling on to every word and making lust guide you instead of your brain and common sense

i mean i am sorry to say this but the signs are very indierect and maybe you are focusing on the words i mean you were talking about his parents i mean i dont think i would have mentioned me in it if i was talking about it i would maybe mention about me but like i said u were talking about parents

well just try to relax just act normal and WAIT let nature take its course

[zackm]

What I would do is have another sleep over with him (in the same bed) and act like you're asleep and see if he is moving your hand on to him. Also, roll over with his penis facing your butt so he cuddles up to you. Then I'd roll over again to him look into his eyes and then close your eyes and kiss him. If he pulls away just go back to sleep but if he kisses back go with it. You'll love it!!!

[silly teen]

its ok that you feel this way with him, i have actually slept like that with someone, and he liked it, we spooned all night. if you feel the same way, you might want to talk about it with him.

[Matt Matoran]

Wow! Thanks for all the quick replies guys! It's awesome to be getting so much help from everyone!

I dunno maybe you are trying to hard or wanting this to happen too much that it make you very acurate about what you hear like it sounds like you are trying to cling on to every word and making lust guide you instead of your brain and common sense

i mean i am sorry to say this but the signs are very indierect and maybe you are focusing on the words i mean you were talking about his parents i mean i dont think i would have mentioned me in it if i was talking about it i would maybe mention about me but like i said u were talking about parents

well just try to relax just act normal and WAIT let nature take its course

Haha, yea I can see how what I wrote may have come off this way. I meant it to be more like "maybe he doesn't want to admit that he has some feelings because he is afraid his parents would not take it well and that he would get in trouble". Hopefully that cleared it up for anyone else who also thought the same thing you did!


What I would do is have another sleep over with him (in the same bed) and act like you're asleep and see if he is moving your hand on to him. Also, roll over with his penis facing your butt so he cuddles up to you. Then I'd roll over again to him look into his eyes and then close your eyes and kiss him. If he pulls away just go back to sleep but if he kisses back go with it. You'll love it!!!

Wait, but if he's not into me at all and I just go for a kiss, won't he say something? I feel like that's a pretty risky more to be doing in the middle of the night especially since if he doesn't like it I'll have to spend the whole night with him there... Maybe I'm just reading what you wrote in the wrong way? It seems like a good idea though, just that one thing I said might be a little problem.



In general, I'm hoping that I can talk to him about this. We are emailing each other a lot lately (I don't know why he doesn't want to chat or text right now), but we've basically been talking about life in general. Not much about this. Do you think I should talk about this with him over email? Or should this be a more in-person thing? Thanks!

[tyler007]

MATT

I really think that you continue to try to break the ice with your friend, But I also think that the time is coming when you have to be bold and make the first move,,, ( Some boys are not in to kiss boys at all my best friend and had a no kissing rule for over a year, until I decided I was bi and kissed him)
Maybe have him over to your house to look at or watch porn, where he might feel more relaxed… but I think you are going to have to make the first move you think it’s the best time…. If not I think you might be in the cycle of sleep overs and having some fun but not want you want.

I think that texting and email are are great way to say something you are nervouse about saying: but face to face (in preson is always best, and you well have to be together to do any thing.

[steve14]

defiantly in person is so much more honest.. and i think that if you are in person it will just give you guys a good time to either try it out first and see his reaction, or just see how feels about everything in general. when he gets there dont be like hey whats up, lets make out... slowly ease into the topic.

talk about how you are talking about life, and then bring up you cant believe that youre almost done with high school, and then be like im gonna miss hanging out with you and whatever, and then get into it like "honestly, i really think i have feelings for you..."

or you can just start watching funny/ stupid videos online like youtube or something, and then be like check this out and then put on porn, and then start looking at him, and getting closer, and especially on a couch, lean on him and start feeling his chest, stomach, and his area, etc...

decide on one of those approaches.... defiantly meet up with him and have a sleep over ASAP! and if nothings good for both of you soon, just email him and be like "i really need to talk to you about something, and i dont think it can wait any longer, before you know it were going to be in college, and moving away, etc..." that is also another good idea.

hope everything goes well; keep us updated please :)
this thread is great!

[RoseyCadaver]

You sound homosexual or bi bro.There is nothing wrong with it.But you seemed to have sexual and mental bonds to your friend.I've jacked my friend of and vise versa in a sleep over in bed at night,it was awesome but i don't like him,if you really,like him,which is what it seems,you might be bi.

[paul955]

you're actually pretty lucky to be honest, i'm not allowed to have sleepovers anymore haha. keep us posted!

[zackm]

I see what you mean. Well what are relationships? Risks! So you just have to go for it. I mean you know the surfing/skating saying, "Go big, or go home"? That's love and life. Go for what you want! Be confident and if he is moving your hands and stuff then I'm pretty sure he's into you and is just scared to come out, because I am mortified to come out to my parents. Anyone would be. But don't pressure him, it will ruin everything(Experience).

[Mikey9444]

this is the best story i've ever read

[Matt Matoran]

hey guys! thanks for all the replies! wow, these are really motivational and really hit home with me! yea, we were talking over email and text for a while, but since monday he hasnt replied to anything ive sent him... my other friends text and email him and he replies to them, so im not sure whats going on now... we were planning on having another sleepover sometime soon, but im not sure whats going on with that as of right now since we haevnt really been talking this whole week... any suggestions as to what is going on and how i could possibly fix it? thanks guys! youve all been so helpful! :)

[Zman2015]

Just sit down and talk about what has happens over last couple weeks and see how he feels about it.

[tyler007]

Matt you might need to sit down with him and have a talk instead of e-mail and texting
BUT i think that you might need to back off a bit and give him so space if he his not answering your email or text... then give him some space and only send him one email a day, and just wait to see what happens.

I wish you the best of luck...

[DerBear]

well if you cant beat him join him

start by not speaking to him....let him make a move you know just leave him alone dont say anything play hard too get then when he starts to make a move you SLOWLY START to make your move

Try this its proven to work

all the best

Derri

[JoshPagan]

Well it's a bit awkward but he would have asked you first then I'm sure that would have been ok.

[steve14]

Matt, you just have to talk to him, iN PERSON! you may have to back off of him for a little with how you truly feel about him. but just talk things through with him. talk about the last 2/3 weeks... do you see him in school? if you see him in school go up to him, and tell him you want to hangout soon

[Matt R]

Judging from that last sleepover you mentioned, it sounds like he's interested in you. He might be a bit paranoid about opening up to you about it, however. My suggestion: have a sleepover with just him, and if what happened in the last one ends up happening again, then just kiss him once while you're doing that. On the neck, on the face, whatever--a kiss will show him that you're not just being touchy feely for fun and you're actually interested in him in "that" way.

I know, it's kind of odd to think he isn't sure if you're really interested in him after you trying to hint it to him so much, but paranoia caused by unaccepting parents, homophobic other friends, or anything else that can cause fear of acceptance can make that possible. Just one kiss may prove to him that you won't be terrified or something if he admits to liking you back.

Obviously everybody else has given great advice, too, but I'm just doubtful that he isn't curious after how he appeared to enjoy the position you were in with him, which I'm guessing is a bit unusual for 100% straight buds :whoops:. I think you know he's curious, but he's not sure if you know he's curious or not; he needs to know for sure before he lets his guard down.

That's just my suggestion, though. I would've suggested talking to him about it first, but it appears you've already tried that a bunch and haven't really been able to get a confession. Who knows--he may be waiting for the drama of you taking the first move. Anyways, good luck dude, hope all goes well :).

[zackm]

I think you should just say, "So you think your half gay, do you mean bi?" and see what he says and say, "Yeah, me to." if he says yes but if he says no, say, "Oh, I think I am." then go from there. Or make a joke about what you're gonna do when you hang out and say, "We should have a mad make out session." in a sarcastic tone and see if he's down.
Hope I helped!

[RadioGuy]

Yeah I think he is probably gay/bi and you enjoying it doesnt make you gay/bi because everyone loves physical contact like that. You are probably just curious. A similar thing happened to me once, me and a mate slept in the big queen bed in our boxers and first time I woke up his dick was pressed against my ass and was hard! Im not gay/bi so I moved when I realised. The second time I woke up and he had his hands on my crutch and having a feel! Through the boxers, not directly. He was still asleep so I realised he was probably having a dream and I sort of became part of it but after that I slept on the floor :P He has never tried anything like that and never mentioned it so I didnt either. We have slept in the same bed since. I think it was just a dream he was having and for all I know, in his dream I could have been a girl! Dreams are weird haha

[Matt Matoran]

hey guys! thanks for all the replies! you have all been really helpful!

so today i got myself all hyped up to talk to my friend about everything. the thing was that he didnt show today... he didnt text me or anyone that he wasnt coming... just didnt come... his mom said that he didnt feel like coming today because he wanted to study for his exams all the way in mid-june... (hes never studied this far ahead before)... im thinking that he just didnt come because he thought i would talk to him about this... * sigh * alright... well that was just an update of whats going on... ill let you guys know how it goes next week... assuming he doesnt try to avoid me again...

do you guys think he just didnt come because he was trying to avoid me? or because he was actually studying for like one exam in june? any other suggestions on how to approach this? thanks!

[steve14]

it does sound like hes trying to avoid you. try to write him an email saying that you still want to be friends, and not get into that stuff. and juice it up with some detail(like an essay). make it sound like you need that friendship, but your not really interested in him that way anymore.....

[paul955]

Honestly, i went through this exact same thing. The guy ignored me for 8 whole months till he one day decided to text me and talk again. Personally, i learned from that experience that if you tried to talk to him enough times and he isn't giving you any type of response, you need to let go of it and move on. I didn't move on and went through 8 months of hell, the first 2 weeks which in which i literally thought i was in depression.

Come up to him IN PERSON (like everyone's said) and ask him straight up if he still wants to talk to you and why he's been ignoring you. If he doesn't give you a real response, move on. Simple as that.

[zackm]

Honestly, i went through this exact same thing. The guy ignored me for 8 whole months till he one day decided to text me and talk again. Personally, i learned from that experience that if you tried to talk to him enough times and he isn't giving you any type of response, you need to let go of it and move on. I didn't move on and went through 8 months of hell, the first 2 weeks which in which i literally thought i was in depression.

Come up to him IN PERSON (like everyone's said) and ask him straight up if he still wants to talk to you and why he's been ignoring you. If he doesn't give you a real response, move on. Simple as that.

I am going through the same thinng, but the guy is moving halfway across the country! :eek: It is hell and it is hard to get over it but you do and you finally feel better. But they will always be in the back back depths of your mind.
:what:

[Matt Matoran]

hey guys! so it seems that i may have written my last post a little bit off making it seem like he didnt come because of ME... turns out he just wasnt able to check his email since his parents took it away because he needed to study... he replied to my email today and now we are emailing again... im not sure if i should forget about him (like some of you said, probably because of my mis-interpretation of the whole thing)... but yea, its now all going well! hopefully we can talk in person about this whole thing soon! i think we are gonna plan to have another sleepover after our exams or sometime in may... any more suggestions that could help me? im not sure what to do right now anyway... :P

[steve14]

matt, there is nothing really. just keep a civil conversation, try not to bring it up or talk about it, UNLESS HE starts talking about it... just keep talking to him, and keep the friendship for now.. until you can talk to him in person.. has he started texting you yet?

[Joshh97]

Ask him today/tomorrow, probably best to take him to one side or something, just tell him you wouldn't care, if not, organise a sleepover and talk to him at his or yours just make sure you tell him your fine with it :)

[swisss21]

ha ha. Sleeping naked will solve the problem.

[zackm]

ha ha. Sleeping naked will solve the problem.

I like the way you think!

[Spook]

It sounds like he was doing it to you :/

Doesn't sound like a coincidence..

Maybe talk to him about it? :D

[DerBear]

well i think you should invite him round like everyone else said and see how it goes

well good luck

[Mikey9444]

i hope things work out

[Matt Matoran]

hey guys! thanks for all the replies and help so far! so i haven't exactly seen my friend this entire week since we've both been busy with tests, but i saw him today and we talked for a bit. after i left, i was thinking about how i liked him and then realized suddenly that i dont like him anymore... i was thinking about that again just now and i don't think i like him like i used to anymore... its like not at all a physical attraction... hes just become a friend now... not even like a close friend, but just a regular friend...

does this mean i went through a "gay phase" and now im done with it and i dont like him anymore? or does this mean im over him? i have no idea what to make of this... HELP!!!

[Travis_123]

I think that many young people go through phases like this.. it could mean someting but it could as well be your hormones in overload.. :-) I think it'll clear out on it's own.. not forcing anything is the best hint i can give..

[Medican]

I think what you should do is just sort of "forget" the whole situation. just hang out with him but don't bring up those things and make it seem like you forgot about the whole thing and see what he does about this difference with you.

[steve14]

i know the feeling, honestly i think it is just your body changing and the way you are curious... everyone has to be curios about that at some point. it is a weird thing. it kind of sucks that you loose feeling for the person, but then you may look back at him in a few weeks or months and be like im upset i never got to experience that... just still talk to him, try not to loose his friendship

[Matt Matoran]

yep! thanks guys! im not planning on loosing the friendship, just not planning on pursuing whatever feelings i had before since they are gone now... i cant find any part of them anywhere anymore... its like they just disappeared overnight (which they kinda actually did)... but yea, we are still good friends (although i haven't seen him all this week so far)... ill let you guys know if anything interesting happens! thanks! :D

[steve14]

thats good, defiantly keep in touch with him... has he started texting you yet? Good Luck on you exams!

[tpzy94]

have another sleepover n ask to jack each other off

[Matt Matoran]

hey guys! weew my mom almost found this open on my computer the other day :P anyway, yea my friend hasn't really talked to me at all for the past week, but his mom called this morning and asked if i wanted to come over for a sleepover since my friend had asked her over the weekend! im pretty excited right now! im hoping that he asked her because he's thinking about our last sleepover and he wants more of that... any thoughts on all this? :D

p.s. this just completely got me thinking about him again :P :D

[Matt R]

Not that you seem worried about it, but it is totally normal to find that you're interested in him again.

As for suggestions about what to do...I think there's enough in here so far :P

[Austin1]

thats awkward he should have asked u first

[Matt Matoran]

thats awkward he should have asked u first

yea... actually... now that you mention it... that is pretty awkward... im assuming he thinks that i am enjoying it too (which i cant say i am not)... but yea... you're actually right... haha... but yea, i think im gonna tell him what i feel for him and hopefully it will go from there... im pretty excited right now, just gotta get through this week!

[Medican]

well good luck just don't push to far.

[Matt Matoran]

thanks guys! ill keep you posted about what happens over the weekend...

[Matt Matoran]

hey guys, just wanted to update you on whats going on and to ask for some help.

so yesterday night we had a party at my friends house (only 7 people came) and im not sure what to make of what happened... i came a little late since my brother was having some trouble with his homework and my parents wanted me to help him with it before going. anyway, as i came into his house everyone was around the computer just watching hulu and they all saw me and were like HI and my friend just looked at me and didnt say anything.

about halfway through, at around dinnertime is when he finally came and sat down next to me as i was talking to everyone else and having fun and he told me he was just really tired... so i think that explains the not doing anything when i came... maybe...

also, towards the end of the party (at around 1) we both went into another room to eat some food and were just sitting on the bed. so we both get up and i kinda push him from the back of his shoulders and he bends over with his hands on the bed as im behind him. i just pushed him all the way onto the bed by his ass (couldn't resist the opportunity) and just fell on him. we basically wrestled around for a bit and i noticed that he grabbed my ass a lot of times too. finally i got pretty tired so he came and sat on top of my dick area and was tickling me on the sides of my stomach.

a little bit later after he finally got off and i was trying to catch my breath, he jumps onto the bed and kinda rolls right into my dick area again and just sits there sideways while im under him and hes looking at me. then he moves up a little to my stomach area and starts bouncing on me and im like ow, ow, ow, ow, ow.

this is when some of my friends came in since they didnt see me come back from getting food for a while. they saw him on me and were like, "guys, stop pretending to do it" and one of my friends took a picture (we got his phone later and deleted it though).

i really liked the whole thing, but i didnt get an erection like i usually did when we wrestled before... and this time wrestling was a lot more touchy feely than other ones... im not sure what this means? do i not have feelings for him? or did i just like the touching despite it coming from him? does anyone also have any ideas on what the whole thing meant? did he do it because he was tired? or because he liked it?

ps. sry for the long post, i just needed to let you guys know the whole story so you can help me! :D thanks!

[Starlight Blaze]

well it just could be that hes a really good friend and just loves to have fun with you

maybe its a sign, but don't buy into it TOO fast, because it might not be a sign

well if you liked it, you liked it, doesn't matter if you get an erection or not, maybe it was more romantic than sexual to you this time

if you need any more help woth this whole sign thing, just pm me, I've been through a lot of "signs"
:D

[paul955]

I think you have Erectile Dysfunction Syndrome.


Haha no but seriously, I agree with what person above me said. It's probably just more of a romantic thing now than a sexual thing and you just dont get a boner from it. I still think you need to confront him about the whole sexual thing though.

[shadman]

Dude, you might be in love with this guy (just my inclusion) but anyway, confront him about it, cuz it seems by what you say that he feels the same but too scared to admit it. Just get him alone and ask man.

[zackm]

Just ask, "Are you gay 'cause I'm noticing that you're touching me and wrestling with me a lot and acting like you're gay. And if you are I won't care, I'm just wondering.", and take it from there.

[Matt Matoran]

urg... i wish i had read these replies before going to my volunteering place today... so i saw my friend today and he was pretty tired and had allergies too... anyway, i was talking to him about the party last night and i just told him that i didnt remember what happened towards the end... and he winked at me and said "you might want to get a pregnancy test"... we talked a little bit more and he was like "i got you pregnant last night"... i just laughed it off cuz i didnt think he was being serious... the thing is, we like talked about what it would be like to have sex with each other before (about a month or two ago)... he always said he wanted to be the top and i always just went along with it cuz i liked talking about it... guess thats why he was always trying to sit on me the way he was during wrestling?

also... i just remembered this... but last night when we were wrestling around we both got tired and just like sat their on our sides... i was behind him with my dick right on his ass and the rest of my body on top of his... he didnt say anything about it so im just assuming he was fine with it... ?

am i reading way too far into all this? i really want to just tell him and im hoping that he will be fine with the whole thing and then hopefully he likes me back? sry im going around in circles right now... any help would be awesome! thanks!

[steve14]

i dont think you are over thinking it, or reading too far into it, at all. the next you see him try to be like yo, you got me pregnant! and just play it as a joke... it seems to me that he was completely fine with the situation; and all the touchy feely

[shadman]

No, just get him alone and talk to him up front. If he’s ur true friend then he wont put your friendship on the line..well that is if you guys want to be more. Do you?

[BHS10]

I just read every page of this thread lol.

Longest-lasting story I've ever read on here..

Hope it works out for ya Matt!

[Matt R]

am i reading way too far into all this?

Honestly, I think you're reading into this too little. I stand by my suggestion earlier that just giving him small kiss or something when you're "wrestling" with him next time should do the trick. Seriously, like a peck on the cheek. Sounds wierd, but if he actually reacts poorly to it (which seems extremely unlikely after what you've been explaining), you can still pass it off as an accident, a joke, etc.

Sounds hard to believe, but I've seen it done before. A guy impulsively kissed this other guy on the cheek while they were talking in the middle of our gym class, and when the guy who got kissed looked at him like "what the heck was that?", the guy just adamantly said he was joking. People had forgot about it in like 30 seconds.

But he's not going to turn you down. Honestly, I can't imagine him not being at least curious after what you've told us about him. Each and every time he does that "wrestling" thing with you or you guys end up spooning (aka that position you described with your dick on his ass) is a chance for you to show him that you like him that way. And don't even consider not getting hard that time a problem, as I doubt you only like him sexually when he's still been a friend.

[Unlucky_Leprechaun]

Id talk to him in private and kinda let him know your true feelings..it is awkward discussing it but at least he knows where your coming from... or just do another sleepover. He may be feeling guilty and confused. You could be bi..but Im thinking that your hand had some "help" getting in certain places

[Sosaku]

I'll give you two view, my Pessimistic view, then my optimistic view.

Pessimistic- Don't read into too much...if you feel like you want to tell him, do it...but don't expect anything, then maybe, just maybe you won't get as hurt if something goes wrong.

Optimistic- Go ahead, believe what you see. however as the Pessimist said, tell him w/o expecting anything, that way, when it goes well, it seems even better!

[paul955]

Honestly, I think you're reading into this too little. I stand by my suggestion earlier that just giving him small kiss or something when you're "wrestling" with him next time should do the trick. Seriously, like a peck on the cheek. Sounds wierd, but if he actually reacts poorly to it (which seems extremely unlikely after what you've been explaining), you can still pass it off as an accident, a joke, etc.

Sounds hard to believe, but I've seen it done before. A guy impulsively kissed this other guy on the cheek while they were talking in the middle of our gym class, and when the guy who got kissed looked at him like "what the heck was that?", the guy just adamantly said he was joking. People had forgot about it in like 30 seconds.

But he's not going to turn you down. Honestly, I can't imagine him not being at least curious after what you've told us about him. Each and every time he does that "wrestling" thing with you or you guys end up spooning (aka that position you described with your dick on his ass) is a chance for you to show him that you like him that way. And don't even consider not getting hard that time a problem, as I doubt you only like him sexually when he's still been a friend.


I completely agree with this. Haven't ever seen it done but should be full proof.

[Starlight Blaze]

yeah at first I thought you might be looking into it too much, but you're definitely not
like the others said just go for it!

I completely agree with what Matt R said, follow his advice!

[Fishes]

Before we get a whole bunch of people saying its JUST hormones, its not, though they do contribute. You clearly have some form of sexual attraction to him but that doesnt mean your gay/bi, you are just curious.

im with him on this one

[RoseyCadaver]

Umm I think he likes you too,and the not getting an erection thing could be that you were nervous.It does sound like he likes you ^_^.

[mrbob360]

i tnink your friend doesnt want to think about it or talk about it because if he does he coul dbe afraid of the outcome i have a friend like this im bi and he knows it an dhe acts as if he likes me more than a friend bu the wont ever think about it he always says im not gay or i dont like boys so jus try and re-assure him and show him that he doesnt have to be afraid of the outcome tell him that he can be who ever he wants to be.

[sweaterboi]

urg... i wish i had read these replies before going to my volunteering place today... so i saw my friend today and he was pretty tired and had allergies too... anyway, i was talking to him about the party last night and i just told him that i didnt remember what happened towards the end... and he winked at me and said "you might want to get a pregnancy test"... we talked a little bit more and he was like "i got you pregnant last night"... i just laughed it off cuz i didnt think he was being serious... the thing is, we like talked about what it would be like to have sex with each other before (about a month or two ago)... he always said he wanted to be the top and i always just went along with it cuz i liked talking about it... guess thats why he was always trying to sit on me the way he was during wrestling?

also... i just remembered this... but last night when we were wrestling around we both got tired and just like sat their on our sides... i was behind him with my dick right on his ass and the rest of my body on top of his... he didnt say anything about it so im just assuming he was fine with it... ?

am i reading way too far into all this? i really want to just tell him and im hoping that he will be fine with the whole thing and then hopefully he likes me back? sry im going around in circles right now... any help would be awesome! thanks!

yes, he is fine with it...please take the next step end enjoy...

[Matt Matoran]

hey guys, i dont know why... but i just dont have any feelings for him anymore... they are all just gone... i also really havent seen him anywhere... i think whatever "feelings" i had for him were probably me just getting excited about the whole thing...

ill let you guys know if anything else changes... but for now it just seems like this is what it is... :( sorry guys..

EDIT: I will try to tell him what i felt, and i guess then ill see how he feels about the whole thing too... but i really dont know if i like him like that anymore... :/

[shadman]

Sad face :(

[sweaterboi]

Sad face :(

yea, I know :(:confused:

[steve14]

:( sad face is right!

[Iamablondebimbo]

What happened with me was me and 15 of my friends (2 girls and 13 boys) went camping and a was sharing a tent with 2 boys and 1 I knew since I was in nursery (he was called alex) and I am not shy at all so I slept in bra and knickers. When I fell asleep I felt alright so during the night I woke up to hot so I slept on top of the covers then I was still to hot so I opened the tent a bit then went back to sleep then when I next woke up without any of my clothes and alex was also naked with 2 boner but he was still asleep then he rolled over on top of me and I was lay on my back at this point and he started humpin me and he woke up so he rolled off me and I just looked at him and He looked at me then he pressed himself against me and kissed me then he rolled me on to the other boy in the tent and he woke up so he pushed me off him took off his Clothes and put his dick in my mouth and alex was humping me and I didnt stop them I liked it but both the boys were gay and ever since when I have invited them to something like sleep overs they would always get boners over me it is very arkward

[shadman]

What happened with me was me and 15 of my friends (2 girls and 13 boys) went camping and a was sharing a tent with 2 boys and 1 I knew since I was in nursery (he was called alex) and I am not shy at all so I slept in bra and knickers. When I fell asleep I felt alright so during the night I woke up to hot so I slept on top of the covers then I was still to hot so I opened the tent a bit then went back to sleep then when I next woke up without any of my clothes and alex was also naked with 2 boner but he was still asleep then he rolled over on top of me and I was lay on my back at this point and he started humpin me and he woke up so he rolled off me and I just looked at him and He looked at me then he pressed himself against me and kissed me then he rolled me on to the other boy in the tent and he woke up so he pushed me off him took off his Clothes and put his dick in my mouth and alex was humping me and I didnt stop them I liked it but both the boys were gay and ever since when I have invited them to something like sleep overs they would always get boners over me it is very arkward

So what your saying is u got gang bangged by your gay friends?:what:

[tohot4u]

It's normal if ur comfortable go for it.

[Life_hard]

Just read this whole thing and that's it sad :(

[nonexistant]

stay clam...

[man with freaky plan]

You should talk to him about it, from what I see I'm guessing he likes you, and as you said you enjoyed the experience, soooo....yeh :L good luck if you do :)

[drum major]

You should just talk to him and c If he knew I wish that I could experiment but I m only 13

[RoseyCadaver]

Well it seems as if they're bi,not really gay.....I would definitely talk to them about it.

[steve14]

any updates matt?

[IanNE]

yea thats probably just a coincidence lol! but its alright

[Jecko8675]

Maybe a coincidence or maybe he was doing it to you.

I completly agree thats wt your frie d was doin.....i wanna meet your friend ;D

[Dellaranga]

omg.. That sounds fucking amazing.. Lol

[jessehs]

just let things happen naturally

[assassin321]

Wow. Crazy story man. You need to be completely up-front with him. Like sit him down and tell him how you feel about everything. Then ask him his thoughts. like no hinting or anything, you both obviously know whats going on by now. I know you don't have feelings for him currently, but you should still tell him, in my opinion. (probably because you'll probably find those feelings if he is a little bi-curious.) I'm in a similar situation, so I kinda know what you're going through man. It's really freaky to think about, but that's relationships. don't let it become a relationshit :p gain something from it.

This is just my opinion... you do what you feel is right. Thanks for the posts man. It's a very interesting read and I hope the best for you.