Opinion on Rap Music

[tpzy94]

Ok so im a musichead(all i do is listen to music) i love rap music its my life and lifestyle. But today i was at school and this guy asked how can i listen to that music and how can i like that garbage.! i was like woah um no its a thing i grew up on and everything. Now he said they dont talk about anything yet he listens to death metal! it made me so mad that i had to juss walk away so my question is what is your opinion on rap music and tell me why.? Also what is your favorite type of music and why.

[love is louder]

first of all i hate when people diss whats on my ipod. its MY ipod
and i dont really care for rap music. i am totally inlove with eminem and i like it sometimes when its in with other music. other rap i have to be in the mood for like 50 cent and people like that. but i still like it especially if its catchy or funny
my boyfriend loves metal and we bicker all the time over music.
sometimes i wish we listened to the same stuff but its not really a big deal.

[deadpie]

I love rap and all of the subgenre's. A while back I wrote somewhat of a rambling debate whatever for defense on the music for people that are against it. You can read that here. (http://virtualteen.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1047221&postcount=7)

Allot of people that listen to mainstream rock will always bash on rap or you can hear a bunch of grunge/nirvana fans say shit against the genre, but it's really funny when you drop Kurt Cobain's famous quote, "Rap music is the only vital form of music introduced since punk rock." That really leaves them speechless. Then again, Cobain's music taste was very open minded, but I'm sure nobody knows anything about that or his influences.

I know allot about rap artists if you want recommendations, but Volatile is the perfect one to talk to on this genre though.

[scuba steve]

I'm not particularly a fan, although I delved in the genre through my younger teens but never really into any subgenres. The only rap artist that I have on my Walkman is an amateur rapper: Outasight who's pretty decent.

It's strange that I would consider myself as rather open minded with music listening to anything from Grindcore metal to Bing Crosby, but was never really interested in rap music.

[tpzy94]

ok thanks i read your defense rap article...nice. but like i understand where you coming from but like i go to a prodomantely black school n like we have bits n pieces of white people so when people go around blasting jeezy n kanye n wiz, they get mad n go around tellin us to turn it down but we dont n they get mad but i listen to people like pac div n dom kennedy n mac miller because thats me so why do they get mad at us for expressin our selfs seriously. but please keep the comments coming

[scuba steve]

Perhaps they're idiots and feel threatened by being the minority in their environment and as a result lash out. They could be white supremacist. They could hate those artists on account of them using auto-tune. Maybe they're having a bad day... I could go on.

[tpzy94]

Perhaps they're idiots and feel threatened by being the minority in their environment and as a result lash out. They could be white supremacist. They could hate those artists on account of them using auto-tune. Maybe they're having a bad day... I could go on.

yeah your right but they dont use auto-tune n they talk abouth clothes n shoes n rarely about degrading women ya kno

[scuba steve]

yeah your right but they dont use auto-tune n they talk abouth clothes n shoes n rarely about degrading women ya kno

I'm pretty sure Kanye West has used auto tune, I'm surprised you'd even object to the claim. The "clothes n shoes" element would be just as likely as to enrage people towards the music style as it makes people think they're basically making songs about how good they are and want everyone else to know it.

[tpzy94]

I'm pretty sure Kanye West has used auto tune, I'm surprised you'd even object to the claim. The "clothes n shoes" element would be just as likely as to enrage people towards the music style as it makes people think they're basically making songs about how good they are and want everyone else to know it.

yeah i see where you comin from but same with any music... i mean death metal talks about killing n death...rnb or country songs talk about love and if you dont have love then its sucks for you n all that other techno stuff is all about living the fast life n if you are somewhat of what people call a lame then youd be mad too...people just need to stop being so sensitive n think if it wasnt for the different cultures then music wouldnt exist

[Amnesiac]

Rap is a great genre that's had its image tarnished by the record companies. There's amazing stuff out there, but the rock-oriented population falls over and over again for the blind stereotypes.

I mean, using Soulja Boy and Lil Wayne as examples of hip-hop's leading artists is like using BrokenCYDE and the Jonas Brothers as examples of rock's leading artists. They're not. Every genre has its scum, unfortunately in this society, parental overreaction and subtle racism have amplified the bad messages that some 'rappers' shit out of their mouths. Rap is a much more direct genre than the others; the lyrics are usually straightforward and harsh, filled with 'offensive' language and violent imagery. Some people are too weak to handle that.

[tpzy94]

Rap is a great genre that's had its image tarnished by the record companies. There's amazing stuff out there, but the rock-oriented population falls over and over again for the blind stereotypes.

I mean, using Soulja Boy and Lil Wayne as examples of hip-hop's leading artists is like using BrokenCYDE and the Jonas Brothers as examples of rock's leading artists. They're not. Every genre has its scum, unfortunately in this society, parental overreaction and subtle racism have amplified the bad messages that some 'rappers' shit out of their mouths. Rap is a much more direct genre than the others; the lyrics are usually straightforward and harsh, filled with 'offensive' language and violent imagery. Some people are too weak to handle that.

completely agreed

[HeroesAndCons]

No offence but i fucking hate rap

[Sugaree]

No offence but i fucking hate rap

Which prompts my question. Why do you hate rap? There are plenty of great rappers in the underground that I would find hard to hate the type of music they make.

[deadpie]

No offence but i fucking hate rap

No offense but I hate when people ignore every other post in the thread and just bash something without giving reasons why they bash it. Another thing is when they bash a whole genre without even knowing about some of the subgenre's in it. Now that's extremely annoying.

Actually, you don't even have to type the reasons up because I've heard them all and I've gotten really sick of debating them now.

[BOBBY HILL]

It can be good if done right.

Witch can be hard to do.

[tpzy94]

It can be good if done right.

Witch can be hard to do.

yeah your right it takes a very talented person to mae rap hits...not juss to sit on youtube lookin up beats using a stupid mictophone so yeah it can be hard to do but at the same time give them credit because evn te people that suck people like and they are sellin multiple albums

[StrongSilent]

Im about as white as it gets, and rap is what I live for. I can't go a day without listening to it, and I write my own. I'm a huge fan of rap with r&b hooks.

[Peace God]

Hip-Hop means a lot to me. I don't like most modern mainstream rappers though...I'm an underground fiend.
...not juss to sit on youtube lookin up beats using a stupid mictophone so yeah it can be hard to do but at the same time give them credit because evn te people that suck people like and they are sellin multiple albums
No. I can't give them credit...money and popularity has nothing to do with the quality of art. By that same logic he who must not be named (http://wheredoesjustinbieberlive.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/where-does-justin-bieber-live.jpg) deserves a large amount of credit?... No way. I value artistry not good marketing strategies.


Allot of people that listen to mainstream rock will always bash on rap or you can hear a bunch of grunge/nirvana fans say shit against the genre, but it's really funny when you drop Kurt Cobain's famous quote, "Rap music is the only vital form of music introduced since punk rock." That really leaves them speechless. Then again, Cobain's music taste was very open minded, but I'm sure nobody knows anything about that or his influences.
lol I actually drop that one too on grunge/metal fans...then again most of the people that I know that like Nirvana only like bands that are popular and recognizable... they won't even look deeper than Guitar Hero or Rock Band

[tpzy94]

Hip-Hop means a lot to me. I don't like most modern mainstream rappers though...I'm an underground fiend.

No. I can't give them credit...money and popularity has nothing to do with the quality of art. By that same logic he who must not be named (http://wheredoesjustinbieberlive.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/where-does-justin-bieber-live.jpg) deserves a large amount of credit?... No way. I value artistry not good marketing strategies.


lol I actually drop that one too on grunge/metal fans...then again most of the people that I know that like Nirvana only like bands that are popular and recognizable... they won't even look deeper than Guitar Hero or Rock Band


ok well i can see why you wont give him credit i mean i dont like him either but people so and he must be doing something right in order to be entitled with all his revenue

[deadpie]

ok well i can see why you wont give him credit i mean i dont like him either but people so and he must be doing something right in order to be entitled with all his revenue

You don't have to do anything right or be talented in mainstream music/pop culture. You're pretty much a tool to the cooperate that's using you and eventually it backfires on you. All I can say is they're all TOOLS! Justin Bieber is the perfect example.

[Peace God]

he must be doing something right in order to be entitled with all his revenue
The fuck?... No.

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Here's some underground rap that I listen to that you might like.

[embers]

Out of curiosity, tpzy, what rap artists do you like?


And I don't really have a thing for rap. I don't go out of my way or divert from the music I normally listen to in order to listen to a rap song, but I do appreciate good ones, which you don't get in the mainstream; those artists are being paid to fart through their microphones in autotuned octaves. But no, I'm not really into rap music.

[HeroesAndCons]

Which prompts my question. Why do you hate rap? There are plenty of great rappers in the underground that I would find hard to hate the type of music they make.

To me personally i hate it because its redundant to me. Like all the beats are the same.
I personally only like Rock and Punk Geners better, cause its rebelious and dangorous.

i am not bashing either i just stated i hate rap and that is that.

[Wicked_Syn]

I like rap music. A TON. There is no more rap music even being produced now a days, so if you are referring to that music, then I can't stand it. But Like real rap. Bone Thugs, shit like that

[Magus]

To me personally i hate it because its redundant to me. Like all the beats are the same.
I personally only like Rock and Punk Geners better

Some groups make different stuff, and not just repeating beats.

They don't make repeatitive beats over and over again; if you carefully examine them, you will find beautiful progressive sounds that just beat the beats, you know what I mean.

I used to hate rap and hip hop myself. But after listening to some other style, I started to dig them, man.

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[Peace God]

all the beats are the same.

I personally only like Rock and Punk Geners better, cause its rebelious and dangorous.
> Implying Hip Hop isn't rebellious.

There is no more rap music even being produced now a days, so if you are referring to that music, then I can't stand it.

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Hmmm...I'm having a hard time deciding which one of these comments is the most retarded.

[Contra]

I personally don't like rap, but I have nothing against people who listen to it.
And I don't feel comfortable in talking about a favourite genre, I just listen to what I like.

[tpzy94]

You don't have to do anything right or be talented in mainstream music/pop culture. You're pretty much a tool to the cooperate that's using you and eventually it backfires on you. All I can say is they're all TOOLS! Justin Bieber is the perfect example.

hey well i tried to be a rapper swear i did i sent it in to the record company and everything and yeah i got rejected lol badly but i still write so yeah

[tpzy94]

To me personally i hate it because its redundant to me. Like all the beats are the same.
I personally only like Rock and Punk Geners better, cause its rebelious and dangorous.

i am not bashing either i just stated i hate rap and that is that.
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im not ganging up on you or anything trust me but like the reason rappers might have an identical beat is because they want to stand out and let people know that is them...like The Cool Kids they are one of my favorite rap groups and if you didnt know any better youd swear they used the same instrumental but they dont n its a thing i guess that grows on you.

[tpzy94]

Out of curiosity, tpzy, what rap artists do you like?


And I don't really have a thing for rap. I don't go out of my way or divert from the music I normally listen to in order to listen to a rap song, but I do appreciate good ones, which you don't get in the mainstream; those artists are being paid to fart through their microphones in autotuned octaves. But no, I'm not really into rap music.


Me? I like juss bout everything except that killin n murder shit i mean like gruesome in detail shit... My favorites are Eazy- E Ice Cube Tupac Biggie DJ Quik Bone Thugs Curren$y i use to like Wiz but not anymore um Big Sean Pac Div lil Tech N9ne lil bit Of Tyler The Creator and odd Future but i still know about Kurtis Blow n Sugar Hill Gang and a hella lot more juss pop some up n ill let you know

[deadpie]

To me personally i hate it because its redundant to me. Like all the beats are the same.

I'm pretty sure you've never heard of instrumental hip hop or trip hop. Obviously, the music doesn't sound the same if there's artist defining there own style.

You can have this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR4Q0hs1_Y0) artist who makes jazzy beats and this guy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRRNJ4EHUhE) who focuses on IDM/Downtempo beats.

I personally only like Rock and Punk Geners better, cause its rebelious and dangorous.

Rap is rebellious and dangerous too. Odd Future, the new fast growing rap group, might be one of the most offensive and rebellious groups out there right now. Then, I'll say this - not all rap is rebellious and dangerous either. You can't just grab a whole genre and pile it up in one false accusation that you believe just because of the songs you've heard.


There is no more rap music even being produced

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[Sordid Saint]

Rap is the shit man. It's the realest music, and lately it's been making the most sense to me. It's probably just because I'm a stoner lol, but Wiz Khalifa has some of the best songs IMO right now like Still Blazin. Black and Yellow is crap though, that was just for him to get publicized. I also like Kid Cudi, Cypress Hill, Bone Thugs, and Arfroman lol.

Check them all out, best style of music is all of those Artists above.

[yumm]

rap isn't my favorite either but i don't hate it.
i don't like when people judge my music lol

[the wasabi]

i rove rap.
the majority of songs on my ipod is rap. :)

[BOBBY HILL]

I remember there was a A cappella rap album. That would be something I would be interested in.

Forget the name of it though...

[Bluesman]

In my opinion rap is complete garbage. It is talking into a microphone with a fancy electronic beat. It takes significantly less talent than other genres and, in the end, all sounds the same.

[deadpie]

In my opinion rap is complete garbage. It is talking into a microphone with a fancy electronic beat. It takes significantly less talent than other genres and, in the end, all sounds the same.

You haven't read any of my posts or my arguments and your statements have already been proven false in previous posts. Wow! I don't even know how to come back on that one.

[ImCoolBeans]

I look at it like this, people express themselves in all different ways. If someone expresses themselves through making rap music, deathcore, pop, punk, rock, etc... then so be it. You dig what you dig.

[Peace God]

In my opinion rap is complete garbage. It is talking into a microphone
And you call yourself a blues artist/fan...that's pretty lulzy.

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Seriously, maybe you should change your name.

[skinny_white_boy]

I used to love it. But within the past year I grew out of it and I only like a few songs now. Mostly Eminem :)
I only really like it if I enjoy the beat and can somewhat make out what the rapper is saying.

[derkderpderp]

Hey, i listen to black metal/gothic metal/death metal/nu metal/heavy metal etc etc.
I dont like rap, but i dont have a problem with it? its just not my cup of tea, admittedly some rap is ok? but idk, for me the reason why i listen to certain metal bands is because of the whole emotion the music? and with rap, yeah theres emotion in it, but not the emotion im looking for? idk its hard to explain.
I listen to some Rage Against The Machine, and the frontman raps, some Public Enemy, and some random Korn tracks with Ice Cube.
Rap isnt a bad thing, just not my cup of tea. :D

[Wicked_Syn]

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Hmmm...I'm having a hard time deciding which one of these comments is the most retarded.


There are no good rappers on the radio anymore, they all sound the same, I wonder how my answer can be retarded...now if you look like underground you can find good people like Mac Miller, or Hospin, then yeah, they good. Nothing commercially is even good anymore, so your the retard.

[Magus]

There are no good rappers on the radio anymore, they all sound the same, I wonder how my answer can be retarded...now if you look like underground you can find good people like Mac Miller, or Hospin, then yeah, they good. Nothing commercially is even good anymore, so your the retard.

This makes me laugh, because Mr. Aj(the one you just called a retard) is the one who introduced us to avant garde Hip Hop and underground Rap.

[Peace God]

There is no more rap music even being produced now a days
....underground you can find good people like Mac Miller, or Hospin, then yeah, they good.
Make up your mind, dude.

[deadpie]

but idk, for me the reason why i listen to certain metal bands is because of the whole emotion the music? and with rap, yeah theres emotion in it, but not the emotion im looking for? idk its hard to explain.

Rap can go pretty personal too. Ever heard of 'Conscious Hip Hop'? Do some research on that. Eyedea, my favorite rapper, his songs are pretty emotional and intense.

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[Peace God]

Also...3 pages of Hip Hop discussion and no mention of any classic East Coast artists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Coast_hip_hop#The_East_Coast_Renaissance_.28early_to_mid.E2.80.931990s.29)? Damn.

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[deadpie]

Also...3 pages of Hip Hop discussion and no mention of any classic East Coast artists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Coast_hip_hop#The_East_Coast_Renaissance_.28early_to_mid.E2.80.931990s.29)? Damn.

/me being a whiney backpacker

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[Peace God]

^ Aww yeah. Some Big L too...

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[tpzy94]

oh hell yeah big L is the official shit!! like you dont know anything about rap till you hear his freestlye and ebonics n mvp!!!

[tpzy94]

[QUOTE=deadpie;1211816]Rap can go pretty personal too. Ever heard of 'Conscious Hip Hop'? Do some research on that. Eyedea, my favorite rapper, his songs are pretty emotional and intense.

i heard he died...juss sayin

[deadpie]

Rap can go pretty personal too. Ever heard of 'Conscious Hip Hop'? Do some research on that. Eyedea, my favorite rapper, his songs are pretty emotional and intense.

i heard he died...juss sayin

Yeah, he passed in October, although his music and message is still alive and always will be. He changed many lives, including mine, so I don't really see him 'dead' in a way. He's very much alive to me when I listen to him. That might not make any sense to most of you, but it does make sense to me.

[Bluesman]

You haven't read any of my posts or my arguments and your statements have already been proven false in previous posts. Wow! I don't even know how to come back on that one.

I have read your posts... the OP asked for our opinions so I gave it...

And you call yourself a blues artist/fan...that's pretty lulzy.

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Seriously, maybe you should change your name.

Idk... it just feels different to me. Blues has a ton of feeling and emotion. Rap feels emotionless and I just don't hear the feeling in it let alone feel it. It's just a matter of opinion...

Why would I want to change my name? Half my day is spend listening to or playing music. Most of that music is blues... I think Bluesman is a very fitting name...

[deadpie]

Idk... it just feels different to me. Blues has a ton of feeling and emotion. Rap feels emotionless and I just don't hear the feeling in it let alone feel it. It's just a matter of opinion...

"Rap feels emotionless". That's an oxymoron. Jazz Hop is a great example of the bluesy hip hop you could look for. Like the song i posted by Arts The Beatdoctor earlier, that's a really good example.

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Downtempo funky acid jazz/inst. hip hop.

A Tribe Called Quest and The Roots are very much influenced by funk and jazz and are sort of conscious rappers too, so I would say that there's obviously flat out emotion they're showing there.

Personally, I don't think you want your opinion to be proven wrong no matter how much it is proven wrong, so that's why you keep missing out on the points.

[Bluesman]

"Rap feels emotionless". That's an oxymoron. Jazz Hop is a great example of the bluesy hip hop you could look for. Like the song i posted by Arts The Beatdoctor earlier, that's a really good example.

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Downtempo funky acid jazz/inst. hip hop.

A Tribe Called Quest and The Roots are very much influenced by funk and jazz and are sort of conscious rappers too, so I would say that there's obviously flat out emotion they're showing there.

Personally, I don't think you want your opinion to be proven wrong no matter how much it is proven wrong, so that's why you keep missing out on the points.

I dont think my opinion can really be proven wrong... neither can anyone's opinion because it's what they think... I hate rap music. It's not my thing and it never will be... I feel that it sucks... maybe you think differently. If so then so be it! If we were all the same this world would be one hell of a boring place.

Also I don't really mind the Roots... I listen to Rage Against the Machine, RHCP, the Black Crowes, and a bit of Cage the Elephant... all of those are rap influenced. I just don't like flat out rap music.

[deadpie]

I dont think my opinion can really be proven wrong... neither can anyone's opinion because it's what they think... I hate rap music. It's not my thing and it never will be... I feel that it sucks... maybe you think differently. If so then so be it! If we were all the same this world would be one hell of a boring place.

Also I don't really mind the Roots... I listen to Rage Against the Machine, RHCP, the Black Crowes, and a bit of Cage the Elephant... all of those are rap influenced. I just don't like flat out rap music.

Did you listen to the song I posted? Have you listened to a damn thing I've posted? Really, the Xploding Plastix and Arts The Beatdoctor ones are the ones I'm mainly asking for you to listen to.

I hate this opinion thing you've got going. Sure, people can have opinions, but to just hate something just because without any real reason is dumb as fuck. And yes, I have proven that rap can be emotional, experimental, and contains many different influences from other varieties of music. Those are things I've proven. This makes your opinion that rap music is emotionless false.

[Peace God]

Idk... it just feels different to me. Blues has a ton of feeling and emotion. Rap feels emotionless and I just don't hear the feeling in it let alone feel it. It's just a matter of opinion...

Why would I want to change my name? Half my day is spend listening to or playing music. Most of that music is blues... I think Bluesman is a very fitting name...
Hip-Hop was inspired by the blues just as rock artists like with Jimi Hendrix and The Doors were. In fact I'd say that the greatest influence the blues had on rap was the "emotion" part. Honestly I think that no genre is better at immersing the listener into every part of the vocalist's lifestyle and personality. Keep your name just know that it's hypocritical to not be able to appreciate a genre like hip hop yet love a genre the was subjected to the same type of negative and baseless critism that your are putting on hip hop.

[tpzy94]

Yeah, he passed in October, although his music and message is still alive and always will be. He changed many lives, including mine, so I don't really see him 'dead' in a way. He's very much alive to me when I listen to him. That might not make any sense to most of you, but it does make sense to me.

yeah i know whatchu mean i tried to listen to him but idk i wasnt feeling it it was deff different but thats why i love rap because its all diffenert blends of people speaking the same language you know

[Virtual Guy]

Rap is ok but im not its biggest fan

[Peace God]

Lol...rap is the atheism of the music section.

[Bluesman]

Did you listen to the song I posted? Have you listened to a damn thing I've posted? Really, the Xploding Plastix and Arts The Beatdoctor ones are the ones I'm mainly asking for you to listen to.

I hate this opinion thing you've got going. Sure, people can have opinions, but to just hate something just because without any real reason is dumb as fuck. And yes, I have proven that rap can be emotional, experimental, and contains many different influences from other varieties of music. Those are things I've proven. This makes your opinion that rap music is emotionless false.

But it is emotionless to me... I can't hear or feel the emotion just as you probably can't hear/feel the emotion in rock or blues music. Music is all a matter or taste and what you hear it as. That's what I find so great about it. I could think a song is amazing when you could think it sucks. It's still be amazing and it would still suck. I'm sure that rappers put emotion into their music, if they wouldn't then they probably wouldn't be rapping anymore. I just cannot hear it, therefore I do not like rap. I will admit that most of the stuff you posted is much better than mainstream rap that everyone listens to such as Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Eminem, 50 Cent, Jay Z, and Snoop Dog. Some of your stuff I could actually listen to even if I would strongly prefer rock/blues/even metal.

[deadpie]

But it is emotionless to me... I can't hear or feel the emotion just as you probably can't hear/feel the emotion in rock or blues music.

YES! Because I like rap I must be some narrow minded asshole who only listens to rap! I love your way of thinking. Even though I'm a huge music nerd and I've been exploring every side of music ever made. You obviously didn't notice this (http://virtualteen.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=323) thing I made.


Music is all a matter or taste and what you hear it as. That's what I find so great about it. I could think a song is amazing when you could think it sucks. It's still be amazing and it would still suck.

Anyone can open up to a certain side of music, they just have to be more open minded about understanding it. That's where about everyone falls in; they're too lazy and they think they already know everything about something before having to put any good points out. They think their points are good enough, but they aren't.

I'm sure that rappers put emotion into their music, if they wouldn't then they probably wouldn't be rapping anymore. I just cannot hear it, therefore I do not like rap.

You cannot hear it probably because you don't want to. If you were to hear an emotional rap song then that would mean you're wrong.

I will admit that most of the stuff you posted is much better than mainstream rap that everyone listens to such as Lil Wayne, Kanye West, Eminem, 50 Cent, Jay Z, and Snoop Dog. Some of your stuff I could actually listen to even if I would strongly prefer rock/blues/even metal.

So it's shitty emotionless music, but you still like it, even though you already said you hated it? I'm so confused.

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If someone can't feel something out of this song, I don't think they understand their own emotions. Tell me you don't see any emotion in this song. I dare you. Double dog dare you.

[Wicked_Syn]

In my opinion rap is complete garbage. It is talking into a microphone with a fancy electronic beat. It takes significantly less talent than other genres and, in the end, all sounds the same.

You have another thing coming say that rap doesn't take talent to make.
Do you realize that not every rapper in the world uses autotune? If the rapper is a good artist, then there is most likely a good producer who built the beat the rapper used, up from the ground. And let me tell you. Producing a good rap beat is the hardest beat/genre to build. Making a house beat, a rock, techno, or something else is far easier than making a rap beat. A good rap beat that is.

And it's not just talking into a microphone. You have to find a good balance between the flow and the lyrics of your song. And let me tell you...that isn't easy as well. Hard as hell to be exact. Then after you have a song written down. A POETIC song, you need to be able to fit it on the instrumental track you are using. So you can't say that rap is all the same and it's less talent compared to other genres. You obviously don't know what your talking about.

And for the record. I play guitar myself and I drum a little bit. Self taught. It is far more easier for me to make up a cool guitar riff or a drum track than it is for me to produce a hip hop instrumental. WAY harder. there are far more variables involved in producing rap, that makes it tough.

[Peace God]

I can't hear or feel the emotion just as you probably can't hear/feel the emotion in rock or blues music..
What the fuck? Why? Because he listens to rap?

It's one thing to generalize artists and bands of a certain genre but you stereotype its fans/listeners too?
I mean seriously, it only takes a few clicks to figure out that deadpie knows more genres of music than anyone else here.
Not only that, you know already that I like rap and you just fucking saw me post one of my favorite blues songs on the previous page.

Jesus Christ man.

[Skatergirl]

I know I don't have much to say, but I love rap music. My favorite genre. :)

[Bmilli]

i liek rap but enjoy a music genres mostly all...

but if i listen to rap i listen to chris webby a rising rap star from CT.

search him on youtube his bars and rhymes are ill as shit.

recommend lalala or imma star or maybe optimus rhyme.

[tpzy94]

yeah i heard on chris webby...i thought the was basketball star chris webber so i went to hear him and hes not bad at all lol

[Spook]

I don't really enjoy rap...but that's just my opinion. :D The singers talk very fast making it hard to understand, and there is not much music.

[Happz]

Well, when i listen to music, im ussually always paying attention to lyrics, and this leads to why i hate 95% of rap. (Everything besides Eminems new stuff.) I find most rap songs have horrible lyrics that always seem to do with one of these:

Sex, Drugs, or Partying.

I just don't like listening to those lyics, i like to listen to lyrics that really connect with me. (Like 'Make it stop (Septembers Childern)' by Rise Against.) But thats just me.

[Peace God]

Well, when i listen to music, im ussually always paying attention to lyrics, and this leads to why i hate 95% of rap. (Everything besides Eminems new stuff.)
:lol3:

Eminem's new stuff sucks.

You must not care about lyrics as much as you claim to.

[Amnesiac]

Well, when i listen to music, im ussually always paying attention to lyrics, and this leads to why i hate 95% of rap. (Everything besides Eminems new stuff.) I find most rap songs have horrible lyrics that always seem to do with one of these:

Sex, Drugs, or Partying.

Well, you need to look a bit deeper then. I have a good collection of rap in my library, but I'm not nearly as qualified as AJ (Volatile, the dude above me) when it comes to hip-hop. Trust me, there's plenty (I'd argue a majority) of rap that doesn't talk about the three subjects you listed.

Also, this thread. (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=88253)

[tpzy94]

:lol3:

Eminem's new stuff sucks.

You must not care about lyrics as much as you claim to.

haha wow i know i shouldnt be saying this but that is funny but i must agree... i like crack cocaine overdose eminem over his new stuff not sayin i want him to do that stuff again but im sayin hes not as good as he was and the lyrics are great to me...i mean i listen to curren$y n other people and he talks about weed and shoes and last time i checked whats wrong with partying? i mean the stereotypical rap is yes money cars hoes but not mine its different and just like other lyrics to other genres its all ass because they talk about the same things rappers talk about just in a different tone and voice...

[hollister_]

I loooove rap, that's what I listen to 90% of the time. lil wayne and gucci <3

[pageplant77]

Well there's "Teach Me How To Dougie", which I love, and the rest I just tolerate.
Personally, I'm more of a classic rocker

[deadpie]

I loooove rap, that's what I listen to 90% of the time. lil wayne and gucci <3

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Gucci Mane is the cancer of rap music. It's rappers like him that make the genre look like a pile of shit. I want to punch that fucking fucker in the face so hard his fucking eyesockets blast out of his stupid fucking brainless fucking head. FUCK!

Typical Gucci Mane lyrics:
WAKA FLOCKA FLAME BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!
YYEEAAAHHHH! (PUSSY!)
Its gucci time!
Yellow livin room set, Lemonade gucci shoes for my girl
Cause Gucci Mane La Flair One Hood Ass Nigga

"Im Back On These streets Niggas You Know What The Fuck It Is
Cause Gucci Mane La Flair One Hood Ass Nigga
Im Tatted Up Dreads Shakin You Know What The Fuck It Is
Waka Flocka Flame One Hood Ass Nigga
You Know You Know You Know"

And that pretty much sums up his entire discography. His ego makes Kanye West look bad. I mean, damn.

[SuperSuraj]

Yah umm rap is amazing.... Drake, Lil' Wayne, and Rick Ross make up like half my iPod haha


I loooove rap, that's what I listen to 90% of the time. lil wayne and gucci <3


Dudeeeeeeeeeeeee, you're the first person i've met who likes Gucci like me haha saweeett

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Gucci Mane is the cancer of rap music. It's rappers like him that make the genre look like a pile of shit. I want to punch that fucking fucker in the face so hard his fucking eyesockets blast out of his stupid fucking brainless fucking head. FUCK!

Typical Gucci Mane lyrics:
WAKA FLOCKA FLAME BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!
YYEEAAAHHHH! (PUSSY!)
Its gucci time!
Yellow livin room set, Lemonade gucci shoes for my girl
Cause Gucci Mane La Flair One Hood Ass Nigga

"Im Back On These streets Niggas You Know What The Fuck It Is
Cause Gucci Mane La Flair One Hood Ass Nigga
Im Tatted Up Dreads Shakin You Know What The Fuck It Is
Waka Flocka Flame One Hood Ass Nigga
You Know You Know You Know"

And that pretty much sums up his entire discography. His ego makes Kanye West look bad. I mean, damn.

K he may suck but all of his verses are hella catchy and easy to memorize haha

[Dunce]

Some of the lyrics are kind of ridiculous, but I don't really mind that. I just HATE the way everyone tries to defend it by saying that it's the only music that's realistic and emotional. There are very few types of music that aren't emotional, and most music is realistic. It's not even realistic though. If it is then Shortie's a whore.
I don't really listen to it, but everyone's into different music.

[Powerline]

I dont like rap

[A.J.]

The mainstreamis the wrong place to find creative, talented rap artists. Definately checkout Atmosphere, Eydea or Aesop rock. They are quite talented