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ShyGuyInChicago
February 22nd, 2011, 12:16 AM
http://blogs.forbes.com/carolinehoward/2011/02/21/mother-parenting-humiliation-bad-grades-ronda-holder-honk-if-i-need-education/

Ronda Holder believes in public shame as a desperate measure for desperate times. Is she wrong or right?
Ronda Holder is the mother of 15-year-old James Mond III, whose academic apathy and subpar 1.22 GPA proved to be her last straw. The Tampa, Fla., mother recently made her son stand on a street corner for nearly four hours with a sign that said (in part), “My name is James W. Mond III. GPA 1.222. Honk if I need [an] education.”
It worked. At least the honking part. Much honking.
This wasn’t her first attempt at trying to shore up the middle schooler’s grades, according to the AP. Holder and James’ father, Mond Jr., “offered help, asked to see homework, grounded and lectured him and confiscated his cell phone.”
“Until he straightens up his grades and gets his education on track, he’s going to work this corner,” his mother said, adding that since traditional punishment methods weren’t working, “embarrassing is the best thing. [James] don’t like to get embarrassed.”
It worked. At least the embarrassed part. “I felt crazy,” he told the St. Petersburg Times. “It’s embarrassing.”
The incident, shot by a TV crew, was investigated by the local Department of Children and Families, but Holder says she plans to continue the punishment for at least a week.
Child and adolescent psychologists typically think of this kind of extreme parenting as not only “humiliating and ineffective” but also mentally abusive. A DCF spokesman said the punishment might legally be considered a form of maltreatment.
In her defense, Holder, 33, a mother of six, “insists she’s fighting for her child’s education” so that he’ll have opportunities for a good job. Neither Holder, a hairdresser, or Mond Jr., a landscaper, graduated high school. “I don’t want any of my kids to stand by the side of the road asking for change,” Holder told the St. Petersburg Times.
Ironic that it is OK for him to stand by the side of the road begging for ridicule, but it’s a measure of her desperation and fear–any parent with a failing child can, if not condone, understand what Holder is doing. Even James gets it: “She was trying to teach me a lesson. I should have been working harder than I was in school.”
I can’t advocate for forcing your child to wear a dunce cap (or placard) on a street corner, but now that the Holder-Mond family problems have gone public, things are moving in a positive direction. James has promised to up his grades and is now enrolled in after-school tutoring.
Readers: Do you agree that tough love tactics like public embarrassment are sometimes necessary, especially when it comes to getting your kids to try harder in school? Or is it wrong and a form of maltreatment?

Iron Man
February 22nd, 2011, 12:21 AM
What a bitch.

Sage
February 22nd, 2011, 12:26 AM
Now that's commendable parenting. I wish my parents did this to me a lot sooner- I could use the good work ethic I've picked up lately a few years ago when I was a freshman in highschool.

KaelKaos
February 22nd, 2011, 12:35 AM
Now that's commendable parenting. I wish my parents did this to me a lot sooner- I could use the good work ethic I've picked up lately a few years ago when I was a freshman in highschool.

But don't you think there are better ways than public humiliation?

In my opinion, a kid who doesn't get the greatest grades but loves learning and education is going to get so much more out of life than a kid who gets perfect grades for fear of angry psychotic mother. That kid didn't need to be "scared straight," he needed to be encouraged.

lengthy_brochure
February 22nd, 2011, 12:36 AM
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Amnesiac
February 22nd, 2011, 12:39 AM
Honestly, I'm split between thinking this is an incredibly good idea for retarded teenagers who can't get their shit together or an ineffective tactic that'll have the government on your ass.

I mean, you have to admit, there are a lot of people our age that should be out on the streets like this. You know, those people who care more about getting fucked and partying/being "totez phresh" than having a successful life.

Sage
February 22nd, 2011, 12:44 AM
But don't you think there are better ways than public humiliation?
He had his change to improve his grades.

a kid who doesn't get the greatest grades but loves learning and education
That's not who we're dealing with.

KaelKaos
February 22nd, 2011, 12:48 AM
He had his change to improve his grades.


That's not who we're dealing with.

He did need to improve his grades, and it says at the end of the article he was going to try and do a better job in school. But still, he's doing it out of fear of his mother. Seems counter-productive to me..

Sage
February 22nd, 2011, 12:52 AM
He did need to improve his grades, and it says at the end of the article he was going to try and do a better job in school. But still, he's doing it out of fear of his mother. Seems counter-productive to me..

It's better to be educated for the wrong reasons than to not be educated at all, and you can't instantly assume he's doing this out of fear. It is just as likely that he realized that without an education, he'll be spending a lot more time on street corners. We can't say one way or another, so the bottom line is that he's now working to do better in school, as he should.

ShyGuyInChicago
February 22nd, 2011, 12:52 AM
Personally if it were me, I would try and prevent my child from becoming a bad student. I would only let my children rarely have fun.

Amnesiac
February 22nd, 2011, 01:00 AM
Personally if it were me, I would try and prevent my child from becoming a bad student. I would only let my children rarely have fun.

Having fun doesn't lead to bad grades. I have plenty of fun, and I'm a straight-A student.

Sage
February 22nd, 2011, 01:01 AM
Personally if it were me, I would try and prevent my child from becoming a bad student. I would only let my children rarely have fun.

You know, you can have fun and do well in school- it's called responsibility.

ShyGuyInChicago
February 22nd, 2011, 02:57 AM
Having fun doesn't lead to bad grades. I have plenty of fun, and I'm a straight-A student.

Well, I only want to prevent my children from making the same mistakes I did. I feel like I am unable to find the right balance between leisure and responsibility. I care more about instant gratification than long-term goals. I also got kicked out my four-year university and am not at a two-year community college. I feel like (I may be and am most likely wrong about this) at some point my parents were too permissive and when they changed I refused to change with them. I do not blame them for my mistakes, but I wonder how different my life had been if they were more demanding. Incidentally, I wonder if I would be less socially inept if they forced me to make friends. Again, i do not blame them. I am considering taking some examples from Amy Chua who wrote the book Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother.

Chua wrote an article for the Wall Street Journal about her parenting techniques.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111504576059713528698754.html

embers
February 22nd, 2011, 01:24 PM
In my opinion, a kid who doesn't get the greatest grades but loves learning and education is going to get so much more out of life than a kid who gets perfect grades for fear of angry psychotic mother.

You mad? Without a good education you can barely scrape a job as a cleaner in a shopping mall these days.

Ambrosia
February 22nd, 2011, 02:30 PM
Honestly public humiliation is never the way to go when trying to "straighten-up" anyone!

And you can have fun and learn. Children who are highly sheltered and live lives of complete nothing (no fun...etc..) usually end up living hard lives as adults.

Sage
February 22nd, 2011, 07:06 PM
Honestly public humiliation is never the way to go when trying to "straighten-up" anyone!

Why not? It worked.

Sith Lord 13
February 22nd, 2011, 08:26 PM
If it works, it works. It's a decent last resort.

Sogeking
February 22nd, 2011, 08:41 PM
I kind of wished this would have happened to me sooner, I could've done well with high years of high grades. :|

huginnmuninn
February 22nd, 2011, 08:48 PM
well it worked and apparently the other forms of punishment didnt work so i dont see any problem with it.

Luxe
February 26th, 2011, 02:21 PM
Yeah, it is kind of mean, but if it worked then all is well.

Theone15
February 26th, 2011, 02:48 PM
That's just wrong, if my mom did this to me I would runaway

Perseus
February 26th, 2011, 02:52 PM
That's just wrong, if my mom did this to me I would runaway

Which would make things worse for you. Good job. You're now failing school and have no home, with the police looking for you. Great life that would be.

I think that was prefectly fine what they did. It's not like they're neglecting him or anything. It's quite the opposite since they want to see their child's grades improve and nothing else would work.

Dorsum Oppel
February 26th, 2011, 06:11 PM
This is a good way to fuck up your kid and make them hate you. This is practically the fucking definition of mental abuse.

Limelight788
February 26th, 2011, 09:39 PM
He deserved every single amount of humiliation for his grades. There is no way that is by any means acceptable in school, that shows laziness and that you don't care about your future. More parents should do this for lazy kids.

Sebastian Michaelis
February 26th, 2011, 09:56 PM
I absolutely love what this mother did! I felt that good parenting was lost forever! They way kids act these days is very disrespectful! We NEED discipline like this! As for everything there is a right and wrong time to do this and this was a right time!

Suicune
February 26th, 2011, 10:48 PM
And all the time used could have been put to studying instead.

Not the method I would've used, but, I guess if it works...