Get you darn facts right sir <3

[zebravomt]

IDk if this goes here but yup move it if not <3
Ok weed! Who thinks it has no bad factors? Wrong sir <3 I want to kindof take a survey here on VT who likes/does/thinks it ok and who hates/knows what it does/dosent use weed.
the reason is i got in this huge debate over it... i got a tad worked up... I know what it does, i have seen 1 to many people draged down by it. Huge money problems, DEATH, cancer, heart problems and many more. but WHO CARES? as long as you high you dont <3 right???? Wrong, what about when you not, do you have money to feed you self, famil, kids? Can you afford more of the bliss? Can you afford any health care (cuz youll need some!!!) And did you just fail a test? i wonder why? OH YEA! cuz you spent the whole night getting high other then studding! WHOA! YOU got domped? Why? did your bf/gf not life kissing a druggie? Shocker.
I have had my grandpa die from lung cance, from weed. my bffs dad has heart problems and she rarely has food in the house but he cares, nope. my sister has gone to jail like 4 times for it. :D Fun right?!?!?!
AND SHIT NO! I want to pond my head in a brick wall when people say "well its used as a treatment for cancer!" yes/NO.
Is Marijuana Medicine?

The potential medicinal properties of marijuana have been the subject of substantive research and heated debate. Scientists have confirmed that the cannabis plant contains active ingredients with therapeutic potential for relieving pain, controlling nausea, stimulating appetite, and decreasing ocular pressure. Cannabinoid-based medications include synthetic compounds, such as dronabinol (Marinol®) and nabilone (Cesamet®), which are FDA approved, and a new, chemically pure mixture of plant-derived THC and cannabidiol called Sativex®, formulated as a mouth spray and approved in Canada and parts of Europe for the relief of cancer-associated pain and spasticity and neuropathic pain in multiple sclerosis.

Scientists continue to investigate the medicinal properties of THC and other cannabinoids to better evaluate and harness their ability to help patients suffering from a broad range of conditions, while avoiding the adverse effects of smoked marijuana.
http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

Its not anything like a cure!!!! Its used to control the pain, and its used on people who are in very HIGH pain! people who have no choice. but you do!

Shit you have NO idea how FBHKDYVYIJEKFCVUSTDF MAD people make me. I want to poop out a mac computer then try to help anyone who needs it. SO FUCKING STUPID!
Oh and dont even use the " well the us is about to make it legal" ok, so what, that just take people out of jail (witch should not come out) It doent make weed good!
Well im ready for hate mail (cuz i know i will get some!)! just please post you thought and get you facts right before you light up. think! FUCKING THINK!

<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3



sorry for my rant..... Loves and hugs!

[Donkey]

What is this? I don't even...

[staying_alive]

There's so much wrong with this thread...mainly the fact that you are ranting and that makes your thoughts very scattered and unclear. Who exactly have you seen be dragged down by weed? Or gotten cancer from it? I've never seen that, to be honest. To be brought down by weed use requires a very addictive mind, as weed has no physical addiction potential. The person has to seriously enjoy it enough to tear their life apart.

Also, I've never seen anyone on this board say that weed has zero bad factors - that would be quite the dumb statement. However, I've seen many preachers such as yourself come onto the forum and tell us all that weed is bad without ever having experienced it.

Have you ever used it?

[zebravomt]

Srry for my rant and yes I have tryed it but that's a long story. I have seen my grandpa die of lungcancer cuz he smoked it like every say of his life. Mg sister has has many problems. Five or six people I cared about kicked out if school for it. My best friends dad loved it more then her.
Reallyi deem shameful I posted this like this. I was in shit fore mode cuz of something.

I just really wanted to ask o e thing. Dobyou think nefore you light up? About how thus can screw up ur life? Just one puff is all it takes to want more. T
I am very sorry for posting rhis like this. Just tell me. Do you thjnk? And if so. About what?
I really just wanted to know why people even start and can't work up the guts to stop if they know what it doing.
I'm sorry

[deadpie]

Sorry to sound kind of rude, but I smoke weed because it makes me happy. Sure, i'm not a dying cancer patient that needs it for pain, but I do believe I need it. Hell, I'd rather be smoking pot then hurting myself. I've never gotten any bad effects from marijuana and i've never lost friends over it. I've lost friends over heavy drugs, but none ever cared about pot.

And my ex-girlfriend was a heroin addict so it's pretty obvious she didn't break up with me because I like getting stoned.

Uh, family isn't against it. They rather see me doing this then seeing me with more scars on my body. And they'd rather me smoking pot then the other things I could do, which I don't do anymore.

One of my uncles is engaged and has two kids. He smokes pot every day and he's one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.


One of my best debates with marijuana is comparing it to alcohol. Alcohol is allot more dangerous. Not only that, but alcohol can become easily addicting, unlike marijuana where it's only mentally addictive.

Actually, Marijuana has been given to people with PTSD, so I don't see what's wrong with me taking it if I have PTSD.

You make marijuana sound like PCP. Damn, you can't overdose on weed. It's not going to make you a rapist mass murderer. It's not going to make your life completely miserable like most addicting drugs do.

You go to an alcoholics anonymous meeting and see how bad alcoholism is. Compare that crazy shit to potheads. Those people have literally lost everything possible you can think of and most of them didn't get sober until there fifties; well, coming from the meetings I went to.


Also, one of the most ignorant things anyone can do is to put down/look down on people who smoke weed. You don't know why they do it or what they've gone through. You don't know if other people in there family influenced that. Judging someone just because they smoke weed is pathetic. Even judging drug addicts is rude, because there's very many personal reasons why people go onto drugs. Try watching a few episodes of Intervention and see what most of those people's childhood's are like and how those things brought them to drug abuse. Not saying every drug user has been abused or molested, but there is many that have.

People don't just get kicked out of school for marijuana. People can get kicked out for many things. And it's there stupidity for bringing or selling it to school, but I'm sure some of them learn there lesson. Even go deeper into thought - maybe they really need it that bad because of anxiety and such. Maybe they sold it because of parental influence and such. There's thousands of reasons why people do what they do, you just have to be willing to see it all.

[Paladino]

About your grandfather, it wasnt the weed that killed him it was the smoke, there is no recorded deaths from weed ever.

[lambo420]

I dont use the substance personally but i hear it has nothing bad about it. Its just a plant, not harming anyone.

[Donkey]

I dont use the substance personally but i hear it has nothing bad about it. Its just a plant, not harming anyone.
This is why cannabis users get such a bad reputation. Sigh..

It's about risk vs. benefit, because people see benefit in it doesn't mean there is no risk.

[Perseus]

And did you just fail a test? i wonder why? OH YEA! cuz you spent the whole night getting high other then studding! WHOA! YOU got domped? Why? did your bf/gf not life kissing a druggie? Shocker.
I

>Criticize pot smokers saying they smoke instead of study
>Spell studying and countless other words wrong

You portray weed as some heinous act, when in fact it is safer than alcohol and tobacco. Yes, people get addicted to weed, but people can addicted to anything. Might as well use that argument for video games. Oh, that's right. That's a pointless argument. Not everyone gets addicted and not everyone wastes their money on it. I have a friend who buys weed with his money he hasn't used, since y'know, he has a job and spends it as a luxury, like, I dunno, video games or movies. Anything can be destructive. Don't just say weed is.

[Greggy]

I had a Grandfather die from lung cancer. He never smoked anything. Smoking increases your chances of getting cancer, it doesn't cause cancer, and that's mostly cigarettes.

Now saying weed has no negative effects would be a lie, there have been times when I was supposed to do something, but didn't because I was high, but I've never did anything drastic and out of control.

There are not really any health risks from smoking weed, but what you smoke it out of can harm you. Wraps/papers have chemicals in them that can harm the lungs. When I was a kid we'd always make pipes from cans and bottles/foil and heating up those metals can release harmful gases. Smoking from anything copper can be very harmful. I'll stick with my glass bowl... Also vaporizing it seems to be popular these days. and making it into a food. So there are plenty of ways to get high from weed without putting yourself in any danger.

Marijuana will never be legalized, decriminalized maybe, but never legalized. People caught using drugs definitely do not deserve the same fate as murderers, thieves, pedophiles, etc. Because sending a drug user to jail will most likely make them worse. Drug users need rehabilitation and help.

This coming from a boy whose father has been addicted to every drug on the planet, weed is nothing. When my father only smoked weed we had enough money, the nice house, the average middle-class family. Then he started his pills, and his crack, and who knows what else, and out family went downhill.

That brings me to my next point, I know you didn't mention this, but is weed a gateway drug? I'd have to say yes, but it's only because it's illegal. You can't just go to the Walmart, or a store and buy weed. The only places you can really find weed are places that are surrounded with things like Pills, Crack, and Heroin. I've personally been in a situation where I was buying some and the guy asked me if I wanted any crack too (I said no.) They're just trying to get more money out of you, they don't care what they're doing to you. (Imagine if weed was legalized how many people would not be put in those environments where you are peer pressured into more hardcore stuff.)

But in the end it's your choice to smoke weed, as was it your grandfather's, your sister's, and whoever else you know that smoked it. so if any repercussions occur (Jail, Failing a test) you have to remember that the weed didn't go into your lungs by itself.

[deadpie]

Marijuana will never be legalized, decriminalized maybe, but never legalized.

Are you completely sure about that? Look how close it was to happening in california.

is weed a gateway drug? I'd have to say yes, but it's only because it's illegal.

ANYTHING can be a gateway drug. Seriously, I hate this idea right here. Anything can influence anything and that's so damn obvious. You could watch someone smoking weed on TV and that show can influence you to smoke. You could get the idea off medication your pescribed to to abuse it. Any of these things can lead to using other things. Influence is a natural thing and it's always going to happen, not just in terms of drugs either.

You can't just go to the Walmart, or a store and buy weed. The only places you can really find weed are places that are surrounded with things like Pills, Crack, and Heroin.

LOLNO. I've seen both sides of those type of dealers that sell nothing put pot and the type that will sell dirt and ice with a gun around there waist. Not every pothead is crackhead. NO NO NO. Pot is EVERYWHERE, not just in crackhouses. You really think people are smoking pot in crack houses? No, they're probably smoking crack because it's a CRACK HOUSE. Get it? Not trying to beat you up, but seriously dude.

I've personally been in a situation where I was buying some and the guy asked me if I wanted any crack too (I said no.) They're just trying to get more money out of you, they don't care what they're doing to you. (Imagine if weed was legalized how many people would not be put in those environments where you are peer pressured into more hardcore stuff.)

Maybe he was joking? And if he wasn't, who cares? He's not going to sell crack to you if you don't want it. Sure, he might try to convince you, but he's not seriously saying, "You have to give me some money so I can get you addicted to crack or I'm going to kill you."

If you're buying pot from someone buy it from the guy that doesn't look like he's fiending for his tar. This all comes down to a little thing called responsibility. You should be 'smart' and careful with who you're buying from. Don't go downtown next to the liquor store asking some guy you've never met for weed obviously. You want to buy it from someone you might know. You don't have to trust them, but you want to make sure they're not going to seriously fuck you up. It's really simple, but people are just too damn dumb when it comes to buying from the right people.

I'm not trying to encourage people to buy, but I'm just saying people should use common sense when it comes to finding a safe dealer and not pick a dealer that looks suspicious.

[Greggy]

Are you completely sure about that? Look how close it was to happening in california.

California? You are aware that we have 50 states right?



ANYTHING can be a gateway drug. Seriously, I hate this idea right here. Anything can influence anything and that's so damn obvious. You could watch someone smoking weed on TV and that show can influence you to smoke. You could get the idea off medication your pescribed to to abuse it. Any of these things can lead to using other things. Influence is a natural thing and it's always going to happen, not just in terms of drugs either.

I never smoked pot because I saw it on TV, or because I've heard of people doing it. I did it because my friends had it and it was offered to me for free. The last thing in my mind at that point was something I'd seen on TV. I didn't even know you could get high off of prescribed medication until my friends told me about it. But I was never much of a TV watcher anyways.



LOLNO. I've seen both sides of those type of dealers that sell nothing put pot and the type that will sell dirt and ice with a gun around there waist. Not every pothead is crackhead. NO NO NO. Pot is EVERYWHERE, not just in crackhouses. You really think people are smoking pot in crack houses? No, they're probably smoking crack because it's a CRACK HOUSE. Get it? Not trying to beat you up, but seriously .

I never said it was only available in crackhouses. It can be available in any neighborhood or place. But the MAJORITY of people who sell pot also sell pills, and other drugs. If you know someone who doesn't that's great.

[Rutherford The Brave]

IDk if this goes here but yup move it if not <3
Ok weed! Who thinks it has no bad factors? Wrong sir <3 I want to kindof take a survey here on VT who likes/does/thinks it ok and who hates/knows what it does/dosent use weed.
the reason is i got in this huge debate over it... i got a tad worked up... I know what it does, i have seen 1 to many people draged down by it. Huge money problems, DEATH, cancer, heart problems and many more. but WHO CARES? as long as you high you dont <3 right???? Wrong, what about when you not, do you have money to feed you self, famil, kids? Can you afford more of the bliss? Can you afford any health care (cuz youll need some!!!) And did you just fail a test? i wonder why? OH YEA! cuz you spent the whole night getting high other then studding! WHOA! YOU got domped? Why? did your bf/gf not life kissing a druggie? Shocker.
I have had my grandpa die from lung cance, from weed. my bffs dad has heart problems and she rarely has food in the house but he cares, nope. my sister has gone to jail like 4 times for it. :D Fun right?!?!?!
AND SHIT NO! I want to pond my head in a brick wall when people say "well its used as a treatment for cancer!" yes/NO.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

Its not anything like a cure!!!! Its used to control the pain, and its used on people who are in very HIGH pain! people who have no choice. but you do!

Shit you have NO idea how FBHKDYVYIJEKFCVUSTDF MAD people make me. I want to poop out a mac computer then try to help anyone who needs it. SO FUCKING STUPID!
Oh and dont even use the " well the us is about to make it legal" ok, so what, that just take people out of jail (witch should not come out) It doent make weed good!
Well im ready for hate mail (cuz i know i will get some!)! just please post you thought and get you facts right before you light up. think! FUCKING THINK!

<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3



sorry for my rant..... Loves and hugs!

Have you ever stop to thnk about how its instituted as something that some people deal with all the time. Its in my lfe not by choice but by circumstance. My family has always lived in a poor place, where pot is easily accecable. I got used to selling it, and dealing with it. It would help kids so much if it was to become legal, because if it was kids like me, who didnt get involved in this by chance. Wouldnt go to jail and have life issues. Also weed has never caused cancer, cancer can come from any number of carcinagon or however you spell it.

[Sebastian Michaelis]

Unless prescribed legitimately by a reputable doctor no one should use any illegal drugs.
Their illegal for a reason!

[deadpie]

Unless prescribed legitimately by a reputable doctor no one should use any illegal drugs.
Their illegal for a reason!

That says so much. Here in Texas you can get a felony for promoting the use of or owning more than six dildos. You can get fined five hundred dollars here for sitting on a sidewalk too. Not kidding.

EVERYTHING ILLEGAL IS BAD!!!! RIGHT?????


California? You are aware that we have 50 states right?

You missed what I was talking about obviously. There's already a handful of states making medical marijuana legal, but California is closer in terms of getting it legal for anyone over 21.



I never smoked pot because I saw it on TV, or because I've heard of people doing it. I did it because my friends had it and it was offered to me for free. The last thing in my mind at that point was something I'd seen on TV. I didn't even know you could get high off of prescribed medication until my friends told me about it. But I was never much of a TV watcher anyways.

You're missing my point I was presenting. Not everything was pointing directly at you. The post was in terms of what can inspire people to smoking in terms of anything.


I never said it was only available in crackhouses. It can be available in any neighborhood or place. But the MAJORITY of people who sell pot also sell pills, and other drugs. If you know someone who doesn't that's great.

Most people I know who sell pot sell nothing else. Then you have the cheese lovers who sell everything, but they're kind of obvious to spot out. I still think you probably skimmed my post or just didn't pay attention to what most of what I wrote.

[Wicked_Syn]

Marijuana can have a bad impact on a person or a good impact. It depends on your will power and control.

I do smoke it. Not a whole hell of a lot, probably once every week and a half. I smoke to get a good break from reality. In my town, it's seriously like a depressing hole, so it's nice to sit back with my niggas and smoke a bowl/joint/blunt..whatever! Sadly, it has brought me and my friend Jake closer together as better friends. The fact that a drug brought us together like that is kind of sad, but I am happy that I smoked it with him, cause me and him are like tight as hell now. We're going to go into the music industry because of it. Smoking weed just put us into a whole new dimension. So yes, because of that I am thankful for marijuana.

BUT

I also somewhat despise of it because I have become a bit too lazy. I have been slacking in school (even before I took my first hit) and now that I do smoke it, I am slacking in school a bit more. I do admit that I have weak self control. I can not get myself to lose weight. I keep telling myself that I will stop eating junk food all together, but i fail the next day. So I do already notice that the marijuana is having a negative effect on me also.

I hate to admit it, but I'm a prime example of a dumb stoner. Now I am not really "dumb" I am just not assertive enough in life.

All in all, weed can be a haven for someone, or a complete nightmare. If you have good willpower and self control, great. Smoke it. But, if you are like me, It's best to just ease off of it.

In my general opinion though, marijuana isn't dangerous itself. It's only dangerous based off the people who handle it (Deal it, grow it, gangs...ect) and people who can't control themselves enough.

[mranderson]

are u talking about weed or heroin? there it so much wrong here

[ShatteredWings]

Guys, I'm letting some of this slide for educational purposes, but please keep this from becoming a bashfest of the OP

[tpzy94]

weed is people with no life n people tryin to be cool seriously its not that great trust me i been high plenty of times but then i realized its not solving anything its just burning a hole in my pocket n im spending good money on bullshit so yeah its not worth it really

[Apollo.]

I have tried it it's not even that great. I have seen people dragged down by it, there is a guy at my work who used to always be at the gym or out with friends now he sits in his house with his GF smoking weed every night, he is getting payed £150 a week and he spends at least 100 of that on weed. On the other hand I have friends that smoke it and are absolutely fine, I think it depends on the person.

[Patchy]

I've tried it a few times, sometimes it was brilliant then once I mixed it with heavy alcohol consumption and was spewing my guts out.

I prefer getting drunk than stoned - legal and I feel like I have a much more enjoyable time.

[Infidelitas]

IM NEVER DOING DRUGS. They screwed up my sisters life enough, not to mention my families. Plus with my family of hereditory mental problems, it wouldnt do any good for my depression or anxiety

[Spook]

Surprisingly, most people said...GOOD! I don't know why. Weed kills. It causes cancer in your lungs and damages them.

[deadpie]

Surprisingly, most people said...GOOD! I don't know why. Weed kills. It causes cancer in your lungs and damages them.

You can't overdose on marijuana and it's only mentally addicting. I know you were just saying marijuana can cause cancer, but then again, why are cancer patients smoking weed to help with the pain and get more sleep? Don't believe me? Click here. (http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Support/marijuana)

This might bring it down to a Class III drug now, which means it's slowly getting closer to being legalized.

And anyhow, smoking ANYTHING over time can cause damage to the body. How many times do I have to say that to people?

[Zazu]

Weed kills. It causes cancer in your lungs and damages them.

If you combust (smoke) it.

Eating or vaporising would avoid this.

[Sogeking]

I don't do drugs and I most likely won't.

[justmehere]

i personally don't see weed as a drug. i mean do we see people go crazy from smoking weed? like you do with meth and crack? and i don't see people smoking weed and murdering their families and stuff. and it actually helps people with certain problems.
but that's also just my opinion.

[deadpie]

i personally don't see weed as a drug.

Marijuana is a drug whether you like it or not. Caffeine is a drug. Tylenol is a drug. And so on.

Deal with it.

like you do with meth and crack? and i don't see people smoking weed and murdering their families and stuff..

That's really over exaggerated. You've listened to Health class and television too much.

[justmehere]

Marijuana is a drug whether you like it or not. Caffeine is a drug. Tylenol is a drug. And so on.

Deal with it.



That's really over exaggerated. You've listened to Health class and television too much.

Like I said,it's just MY opinion.

[deadpie]

Like I said,it's just MY opinion.

No, I mean it literally is a drug. That's a fact, not an opinion.

[Charleigh]

Lets just say. People have choices. They have freedom.
People know you can get nicked for possesion of drugs blah blah.
If people want to go that way, let them.

[Ruzlier]

Im disgusted by people who say its bad, they are horrible people tbh. You have every right to not smoke , but being againt it is the most moronic thing i have ever seen, FFS people, it CAN'T kill you, has never caused cancer in any PROVEN study, and has NEVER killed brain cells in WELL-FUNDED and WELL-DONE studies.

Weed is NOT a drug. Its a plant that has a few chemicals in it that are considered drugs, its like saying pepsi is a drug. Is it? No. But it has cafeen in it? So isn't that person drinking a pepsi a druggie? A drug is something that alters you mentally or physically pretty much, so isn't everything you consume considered a drug? Just using the logic you use. Now before people go "well that means cocaine isn't a drug, because it is cut with with stuff all the time" Well if you say "coke that is cut with flour is a drug" you are wrong, if you say "pure coke is a drug, and if you mix it with flour its a drug mixed with flour" You are rite. People are so moronic. -_-


Something really sad I here is "well cocaine is a coco plant ground up, so its safe? NO. So weed being a plant doesn't make it safe"
Well all other popular substances we call 'drugs' do come from plants, then are soaked in chemicals, or cooked in chemicals.


Smoking marijuana may cause some cancer cells, thats rite. But its not marijuana itself, its smoke going into your lungs that is hurting you. ANY kind of smoke going into your lungs isn't good, I don't care what its from, by the camp fire, that smoke you inhale near it isn't safe. No smoke is all the way safe. But there is no PROVEN way marijuana caused cancer. Never once has a marijuana only smoker gotten lung cancer (that is on file) And it has actually been proven to cure cancer in some ways. Many medicines are made from it that have killed forming cancer.
Oh, and weed is edible. So that really makes the whole argument that it causes lung cancer invalid.

[anonymous.john]

That was the most ill-formed, uninformed, sorry excuse for a persuasive post I have ever read in my life. Get your facts. You give a few major "effects" of marijuana and I will systematically tear them apart.

"Money Problems":
If you can't manage your money, that is not my problem, nor is it an effect of marijuana. If you can't afford it, don't buy it. Marijuana is the least addictive illegal drug out there.

"DEATH":

False. I'm sorry, but that's just plain wrong. Name one person who has ever died as a result of smoking marijuana. Now name one that died as a result of smoking cigarettes. That's what I thought. All illegal drugs are assigned a so-called "LD-50" rating. This is the dosage at which 50% of test subjects die of overdose. All drugs have one, except marijuana, why? Scientists have been unable to induce an overdose of THC. The estimated LD-50 for marijuana smoking is somewhere in the realm of several thousand pounds.

"Cancer": Marijuana has anti-tumor properties, reducing the risk of cancer in marijuana smokers. Perhaps the risk of lung cancer is slightly higher, but much less than other, legal drugs such as tobacco in cigarettes.

"Heart Problems": Bullshit. If you have a heart attack while smoking, you have a pre-existing heart condition. Cite one example of someone who has developed heart problems from marijuana.

At the end of the day, it's still your responsibility to manage your time. If you failed a test because you didn't study, that is, again, not my fault. Learn to manage your time. Also, your sister was arrested for it because of the idiocy that pervades the american legal system. We have jails full of people whose only "crime" was consumption of cannabis. That is madness. Reefer madness, but it's not the smokers who are mad.

[bleedoutlove]

IDk if this goes here but yup move it if not <3
Ok weed! Who thinks it has no bad factors? Wrong sir <3 I want to kindof take a survey here on VT who likes/does/thinks it ok and who hates/knows what it does/dosent use weed.
the reason is i got in this huge debate over it... i got a tad worked up... I know what it does, i have seen 1 to many people draged down by it. Huge money problems, DEATH, cancer, heart problems and many more. but WHO CARES? as long as you high you dont <3 right???? Wrong, what about when you not, do you have money to feed you self, famil, kids? Can you afford more of the bliss? Can you afford any health care (cuz youll need some!!!) And did you just fail a test? i wonder why? OH YEA! cuz you spent the whole night getting high other then studding! WHOA! YOU got domped? Why? did your bf/gf not life kissing a druggie? Shocker.
I have had my grandpa die from lung cance, from weed. my bffs dad has heart problems and she rarely has food in the house but he cares, nope. my sister has gone to jail like 4 times for it. :D Fun right?!?!?!
AND SHIT NO! I want to pond my head in a brick wall when people say "well its used as a treatment for cancer!" yes/NO.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

Its not anything like a cure!!!! Its used to control the pain, and its used on people who are in very HIGH pain! people who have no choice. but you do!

Shit you have NO idea how FBHKDYVYIJEKFCVUSTDF MAD people make me. I want to poop out a mac computer then try to help anyone who needs it. SO FUCKING STUPID!
Oh and dont even use the " well the us is about to make it legal" ok, so what, that just take people out of jail (witch should not come out) It doent make weed good!
Well im ready for hate mail (cuz i know i will get some!)! just please post you thought and get you facts right before you light up. think! FUCKING THINK!

<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3



sorry for my rant..... Loves and hugs!


No one has ever died from use of cannabis. No one has ever got cancer purely as a result of using cannabis. And yes, without cannabis, I would be dead, as it has stopped me from commiting suicide. And yes, it helps with my very bad chronic pain that I've had for 6 years. Don't listen to govt propaganda...if you want to learn the truth PM me or watch The Union.

[Rayquaza]

I dont like it. I dont like the way people need something artificial to have a good time. Cant they have a good time without weed?

[embers]

I love how people justify doing weed by saying cigarettes are worse.

[bleedoutlove]

I dont like it. I dont like the way people need something artificial to have a good time. Cant they have a good time without weed?

Artificial: Made or produced by human beings rather than occurring naturally, typically as a copy of something natural

This is a naturally occuring plant. How is that artificial? And a lot of people use it as a medicine, unlike alcohol or cigarettes for instance.

[AnnaxSanity]

I love how people justify doing weed by saying cigarettes are worse.

You shouldn't smoke anything. Organic smoke causes cancer and can suffocate. There's nothing wrong with tetrahydrocannabinol though, buy a vape or eat it in some brownies lol.

[Tankinx91]

No, I mean it literally is a drug. That's a fact, not an opinion.

actually it literally is a plant. thats a fact not an opinion.

[aperson444]

Marijuana kills cancer cells. According to a study titled:"Δ9-Tetrahydrocannabinol induces apoptosis in C6 glioma cells"

Gliomas are brain tumors. There is evidence that cannabinoids like THC, THCV, CBD, CBN and over 60 other cannabinoids found in the plant can kill cancer cells. CBD and THC are also potent neuroprotective agents/antioxidants that can prevent toxicity from amphetamines. A study called "A Tale of Two Cannabinoids" and a few other medical studies found that THC alone in pill form (Marinol) is not at all as effective as herbal cannabis, and might even be dangerous (it could induce psychotic episodes).

[Zazu]

actually it literally is a plant. thats a fact not an opinion.

The active compounds found in the cannabis plant (such as THC D9), are drugs.

The rest of the cannabis is cellulose-based plant material (the stalks / stems / flowers e.t.c.)

It can be said it's both.

[Obscene Eyedeas]

As i read through this thread i was laughing my ass off. Most people seriously don't understand. Alcohol is more harmful than weed do some chemistry and psychology. Also when someone says people have ruined their whole entire lives with weed i think ya lol. There's weed and then there's heavy Shit. Tbh Deadpie really nailed this on the head. Hell more people have died from alcohol around here than weed. Also people need to refrain from Mainstream drug movies..

[aperson444]

The active compounds found in the cannabis plant (such as THC D9), are drugs.

The rest of the cannabis is cellulose-based plant material (the stalks / stems / flowers e.t.c.)

It can be said it's both.

It would be safe to assume that the flowers (the pistils, sepals, and leaves associated) are the drug on the plant (species Cannabis sativa or Cannabis indica, or Cannabis ruderalis if you smoke shit weed). In general, they are coated with trichomes filled with a resinous solution of terpenes (that give fragrance), 66 different cannabinoids (that may or may not be present), which includes delta-9-THC. The rest of the plant does possess smaller coverage of trichomes, thus can be used to make hashish or tinctures, but is generally not smoked unless your dealer is a real asshole. The organism itself is really just a plant. A lot of other plants produce trichomes and sticky resins (myrrh for example, as well as pine trees and hops). When the buds/floral parts of this plant are harvested, dried and cured, it is probably a drug.

[Zazu]

It would be safe to assume that the flowers (the pistils, sepals, and leaves associated) are the drug on the plant (species Cannabis sativa or Cannabis indica, or Cannabis ruderalis if you smoke shit weed). In general, they are coated with trichomes filled with a resinous solution of terpenes (that give fragrance), 66 different cannabinoids (that may or may not be present), which includes delta-9-THC. The rest of the plant does possess smaller coverage of trichomes, thus can be used to make hashish or tinctures, but is generally not smoked unless your dealer is a real asshole. The organism itself is really just a plant. A lot of other plants produce trichomes and sticky resins (myrrh for example, as well as pine trees and hops). When the buds/floral parts of this plant are harvested, dried and cured, it is probably a drug.

Having a mother who was a biochemist of some sort (I can't remember her exact specialisation) and a dad who was a human pathologist, and in his latter years a histopathologist, does make me look at things on somewhat of a cellular level thus I will still personally continue to differentiate between the 'plant' and the 'drug(s)'.

Very nice snippet of information from you there though :)

[aperson444]

Well essentially you are right. I am simply expanding on that, because the actual vessel of the active compounds are the trichomes, which are just there to let pollen stick to the plant and fertilize it (only female Cannabis plants produce the active compounds in significant amounts and smokable drug). There's maybe a small percentage in the actual epidermal cells, because trichomes are the storage area, while the epidermal and possibly the mesophyl cells probably are the locations where the geranyl pyrophosphate is converted to an acid that later cyclizes to THC/CBD/Other cannabinoids. This would then be exported to trichomes via vesicles to add to a solution of terepenes. This is why good cannabis is harvested when the trichomes become milky, as some of the THC cyclizes and THC is exported to trichomes. Good weed has milky/clear or slightly amber colored trichomes.