Science is all fake/misleading?

[Johnnoo101]

Me and my friend were talking for a good 75 minutes in science class just about the fact that science, and all studies could be wrong.
Just think, the law of physics could somehow be broken by a certain object.
The speed of light could be complete bullshit.
All i'm saying is, that i believe what they're teaching us in school is going to be 'scientifically proven' wrong.
And then another theory will overtake the place of the old theory.
When the new theory could be wrong as well.
personally, i just think that science is all fiction.

[Azunite]

Me and my friend were talking for a good 75 minutes in science class just about the fact that science, and all studies could be wrong.
Just think, the law of physics could somehow be broken by a certain object.
The speed of light could be complete bullshit.
All i'm saying is, that i believe what they're teaching us in school is going to be 'scientifically proven' wrong.
And then another theory will overtake the place of the old theory.
When the new theory could be wrong as well.
personally, i just think that science is all fiction.


Congratulations, you just made some 100 enemies.
Seriously, science proved anything while religion did nothing. All you mentioned above is proven by all objects.
That's why there are two separate words called "science" and "fiction".

And science isn't something explored long ago, it was in the nature. It stood there by itself so laws cannot be simply broken else you would also break the entire nature.

[Magus]

Me and my friend were talking for a good 75 minutes in science class just about the fact that science, and all studies could be wrong.
Just think, the law of physics could somehow be broken by a certain object.
The speed of light could be complete bullshit.
All i'm saying is, that i believe what they're teaching us in school is going to be 'scientifically proven' wrong.
And then another theory will overtake the place of the old theory.
When the new theory could be wrong as well.
personally, i just think that science is all fiction.
You should check wiki a lot often. Here is what you should read: Click Me (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method). You might find what you need.

Funny, people are being Sceptic about speed of light but not to ghosts.

Seriously, science proved anything while religion did nothing. All you mentioned above is proven by all objects.
What's this, my brother! Has the infidels spoiled your mind?! By Allah, you shall be cleansed from their foul ideologies and infidel science!

[Azunite]

You should check wiki a lot often. Here is what you should read: Click Me (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method). You might find what you need.

Funny, people are being Sceptic about speed of light but not to ghosts.

Faris, there ARE ghosts. I am surprised a wise man like you doesn't know this. Who do you think Casper is?

[PJay]

From what I understand science is about knowledge growing and adapting to what we learn each day. Theories attempt to explain things in terms of facts we know today. New facts come along, the theory might need to be revised / thrown out. On the other hand some things are so predictable and repeatable they are described using theories that are often considered 'laws' (if I've understood that right?).

I think it is essential to be flexible and open minded, however it is just as silly to be too open minded as it is to be too sceptical. Where there is solid evidence that is widely accepted by the majority of scientists who have studied a subject for their entire careers, it is reasonable to conclude it is very unlikely a theory is wrong. Conversly where there is little or no factual evidence, it would be unreasonable to assume a theory had any truth to it.

Unfortunately people who like the idea of a particular theory are very willing to discount evidence that contradicts it, and vice versa. It takes training in scientific method to compensate for human emotions and most of us aren't very good at that, and that does include some scientists too of course.

[Bluesman]

Science is fiction, no. Science is mostly theories which are (for the most part) 99.99999% true, but still could be proven wrong. So I guess I'd say that you're right and wrong. As far as science=fiction though... bullshit.

[Dunce]

Well I dont exactly think it's misleading.. but yeah, they were teaching stuff in biology years ago that later turned out to be completely wrong xP Meh.

[Azunite]

What's this, my brother! Has the infidels spoiled your mind?! By Allah, you shall be cleansed from their foul ideologies and infidel science!

Excuse me... EXCUSE ME? I don't follow allah.
I'm a

ZOROASTRIAN ORTHODOX ATHEIST

[Cudder]

If science was wrong then we would be messed up. Or all crazy and dead. Lol. I say dead because medicines and medical science. I hope none of that is wrong

[Magus]

[SIZE="1"]Excuse me... ATHEIST Oh! An Apostate, you shall face the weight of your crimes! :P

[Scooby Dooby Drew]

I love how people argue that something in science is "just a theory, and therefore cannot be proven", because it is such a BULLSHIT argument XD
A Scientific Theory is a statement based off facts, observations, and the results of experiments that explains and correlates the facts. So yeah, if properly investigated theories are correct almost all of the time.

To assume all of the scientific theories are "misleading" is ridiculous, that's the same as saying left is right, up is down, and dicks are actually made of pudding. Not to mention that you seem to misunderstand what science IS, to say it isn't correct is to say that you don't believe in common sense and logic.

[Amnesiac]

Me and my friend were talking for a good 75 minutes in science class just about the fact that science, and all studies could be wrong.
Just think, the law of physics could somehow be broken by a certain object.
The speed of light could be complete bullshit.
All i'm saying is, that i believe what they're teaching us in school is going to be 'scientifically proven' wrong.
And then another theory will overtake the place of the old theory.
When the new theory could be wrong as well.
personally, i just think that science is all fiction.

Well, let's see: theories like evolution, physics and the speed of light have stood for decades, if not hundreds of years. The fact that they've stood the test of time makes them incredibly reliable. Are you going to shit on the face of science, the sum of all human knowledge, because there's an microscopic chance that they'll be disproven?

Science is the reason behind almost all the technology you use today, and everything you know about the world and how it functions. It would be irrational to cast that all away because of the near-impossibility that some of the most important theories of all time could be 'disproven'.

[dmeek7]

If science was wrong then we would be messed up. Or all crazy and dead. Lol. I say dead because medicines and medical science. I hope none of that is wrong

Exactly

[Jess]

so...there's no such thing as atoms? electrons?

that is just stupid. as everyone else said, religion pretty much proves nothing

[Cloud]

Me and my friend were talking for a good 75 minutes in science class just about the fact that science, and all studies could be wrong.
Just think, the law of physics could somehow be broken by a certain object.
The speed of light could be complete bullshit.
All i'm saying is, that i believe what they're teaching us in school is going to be 'scientifically proven' wrong.
And then another theory will overtake the place of the old theory.
When the new theory could be wrong as well.
personally, i just think that science is all fiction.

So i take it that you were typing that sat on your ceiling? Since Gravity is the stuff of fiction
Or is your internet working by magic? Since it cannot possibly be light travelling rapidly down wires sending signals to be translated since the speed of light is a lie?
now ill be right back with you im just going to walk through my brick wall since resistance forces dont exist


And where the devil did religion come into this Cengiz and Faris?

[Korashk]

Me and my friend were talking for a good 75 minutes in science class just about the fact that science, and all studies could be wrong.
This to me, says that you and your friend know absolutely nothing about science. Of course scientific principals could be wrong. If they couldn't, then they wouldn't be scientific principals. Falsifiability is a necessary aspect of anything under the wing of science.

Just think, the law of physics could somehow be broken by a certain object.
Nope, the laws of physics exist regardless of whether or not we know them. Our understanding of physics would simply change to accommodate this new phenomenon.

The speed of light could be complete bullshit.
Possible, though unlikely

All i'm saying is, that i believe what they're teaching us in school is going to be 'scientifically proven' wrong.
Kind of a silly position to hold since that would entail Matrix-like mindscrewing. Giving that most scientific principals are observable.

And then another theory will overtake the place of the old theory.
Yes, that's how it works. Happens fairly regularly.

When the new theory could be wrong as well.
Rarely, if ever is a scientific theory flat out wrong. That's not how the concept works. Incomplete would be a more accurate way of putting it.

personally, i just think that science is all fiction.
You have a poor grasp of what the word "fiction" means.

[Dorsum Oppel]

Bro man dude, you're totally right. Like, our shoes might not be shoes. What if THE MEDIA, MAN told us that they were shoes, but they're really fish.

SHOES ARE FICTION

[kevinjk]

science is exploration and theories and discoveries, you have to think about everything

[Kahn]

Science proposes theories, provides evidence, and repeats this cycle. Unlike most faiths, where such things are set in stone (Not trying to create a pun with the Ten Commandments) in the books in which the abide by, Science needs to prove what they are proposing. If it doesn't have enough supporting evidence, it is thrown out the window or delayed until further evidence is found and/or provided.

With faith you don't have to prove things. As long as it is considered divine it is right, it is the spoken word of the almighty himself! Who is to question that?! It's God speaking!

[Luxe]

Science is fiction? You seriously believe this? Does this mean you don't believe in atoms and therefore everything is just made up of some sort of magic substance? Or medicine, is that just some sort of elaborate conspiracy?

Some scientific theories are wrong, I'll give you that. But there are so many things that are explained by science that you can't just make a general statement like 'Science is all fiction'.

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[Iceman]

I think what he is trying to say, is science is often proven wrong. Theories are replaced with new ones, every so often.
So by those means "science" implying what we take today to be true by scientific studies, can and may possibly be proven wrong in the future.

[Johnnoo101]

I think what he is trying to say, is science is often proven wrong. Theories are replaced with new ones, every so often.
So by those means "science" implying what we take today to be true by scientific studies, can and may possibly be proven wrong in the future.

You worded it so well.
Thanks you.
That's exactly what i'm trying to say.
I'm not trying to make enemies xD

[Magus]

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[Perseus]

You worded it so well.
Thanks you.
That's exactly what i'm trying to say.
I'm not trying to make enemies xD

Most of theories we use today are set in stone for the most part. There are parts we don't, which redefines it, but it doesn't make it obsolete. Most mainstream theories aren't going anywhere.

[embers]

Wrong videos for educations.

They're miracles, I tell you! MIRACLES!

[Azunite]

They're miracles, I tell you! MIRACLES!

Hah! Miracles?! You are kidding!
Scientific foundings are not based on miracles, they are purely coincidental!!!

[Peace God]

Science is the only thing that isn't fake and misleading.

[Iceman]

Science is the only thing that isn't fake and misleading.

It could be fake and misleading. Take evolution for example. It often changes what we, humans, are decended from.

[Sage]

I've really not wanted to post in this thread because this is honestly some of the most profoundly, powerful stupid rubbish I've ever read on this board, but I'll make this short.

You people need to stop expecting something, anything, be it science or religion, to provide you with an objective answer to anything that is unquestionably true and stands up to the test of time and in light of new evidence. Science bases its conclusions based on observable facts and collected data- All the facts we observe and data we collect may not provide a concrete answer to our questions, but it is the best and most accurate claim we can make based on what we already know. Science changes all the time because we are always building our wealth of knowledge and data. If anything in science changes, it is only in light of new evidence. What I suspect our problem here is lies in personal pride: You need to stop being ashamed to admit your previous conclusion was wrong and instead take satisfaction in knowing that whatever new conclusion you reached is based on a greater sum of knowledge, facts, and experience.

Now let's watch as three dozen stupid motherfuckers completely ignore everything I just said.

[Magus]

What I suspect our problem here is lies in personal pride: You need to stop being ashamed to admit your previous conclusion was wrong and instead take satisfaction in knowing that whatever new conclusion you reached is based on a greater sum of knowledge, facts, and experience.

True. I know what you are trying to say. But I have to put that in a different approach:

Despite being the one who proposed theory of relativity, Einstein lost to Hubble.

It's when Einstein theorised the static universe from his general relativity theory, but after Hubble's discovery(basing via collected data), it turned out that the universe is actually mobile and the it's constantly expanding -- this is where Einstein failed, because he didn't provide any tangible evidence to his theory(despite it having a firm mathematical model), whereas Hubble proved his theory using natural and observable phenomenons; or so I think how it went.

The above explains how a scientific hypothesis might not always turn true.

To OP. Light alone is not constantly at the same speed, so are the other electromagnetic waves of different frequency and wave-length.

A gamma ray travels in the same constant speed(light speed) as a radio-wave. <<- This a tricky question that science student might encounter in their physics exam!!

[Peace God]

It could be fake and misleading. Take evolution for example.
Proving an accepted theory wrong(which is also science) still expands understanding of the subject. Science always improves upon itself and leaves us with a not only a better but our most logical and reasonable understanding of the universe around us.
It often changes what we, humans, are decended from.
I don't really see what you're saying.

[Magus]

I don't really see what you're saying.
The scientific Adam does not exist, and that we are from the mythical Adam.

[Cosmic]

We can not know that we know anything; but in terms of practical usage, we can surely rely on our senses, and upon our logic (however isolated that logic might be in reality) to establish a reality that works for us. At the very least, science attempts to use our abilities as humans to find the truth, which is where faith falls short.

[Death]

@OP: You think science is bullshit? So you're saying that the laws of gravity are wrong? Then why don't you walk off a cliff and not fall to your death?

[Cosmic]

@OP: You think science is bullshit? So you're saying that the laws of gravity are wrong? Then why don't you walk off a cliff and not fall to your death?

Is it not rather bold of you to presume that gravity is the only possible explanation for falling?

[Death]

Is it not rather bold of you to presume that gravity is the only possible explanation for falling?

It's the only true explaination, for everyday purposes of course. Besides, I was just making a point about how he should not dismiss laws of science so eagerly.

[Iceman]

It's the only true explaination, for everyday purposes of course. Besides, I was just making a point about how he should not dismiss laws of science so eagerly.

He isn't dismissing all laws of science.

You can try walking off a cliff first, I would much rather prefer that.

[Death]

He isn't dismissing all laws of science.

You can try walking off a cliff first, I would much rather prefer that.

Relax, it's just a joke, and I never claimed that he was dismissing all the laws of science. You weren't meant to take my post seriously. Besides, where were you when the others said similar things? Honestly?

[Iceman]

So was mine.
Obiously I was not on here. I'm not on VT 24 hours a day, reading this excat thread.

[Death]

So was mine.
Obiously I was not on here. I'm not on VT 24 hours a day, reading this excat thread.

Well I didn't know, but I can understand that.