three strikes law

[Fiending_the_freedom]

i dont live in the U.S but i watched a thing on tv about the three strikes law and i was wondering what everyone eles felt about this?
[for those of you who dont know what the three strikes law is its if you get three even minor crimes, like possesion, then you get charged for a major crime and could get up to 25 years in prison]

[Hyper]

Sounds idiotic

[mRojas2000]

3 is too little :) stupid law ;)

[Maverick]

i dont live in the U.S but i watched a thing on tv about the three strikes law and i was wondering what everyone eles felt about this?
[for those of you who dont know what the three strikes law is its if you get three even minor crimes, like possesion, then you get charged for a major crime and could get up to 25 years in prison]
Three strikes laws are statutes enacted by state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state) governments in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) which require the state courts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_court) to hand down a mandatory and extended period of incarceration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison) to persons who have been convicted of a serious criminal offense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offense_%28law%29) on three or more separate occasions. These statutes became very popular in the 1990s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s). They are formally known among lawyers and law professors as habitual offender laws.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_strikes_law#_note-0) The name comes from baseball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball), where a batter has two strikes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_zone) before striking out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strikeout) on the third.
The stated rationale for these laws is that the automatic and lengthy imprisonment of individuals who commit three or more felonies is justified on the basis that recidivists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recidivism) are incorrigible and chronically criminal, and must be imprisoned as a matter of public safety

[mRojas2000]

Well that makes sence, lol
3 minors are just ridiculous

[TheWizard]

I think its completely wrong. When a person does their time they should be given a clean slate.

[Melchi0r]

Sounds idiotic

America is steadily declining downwards... *sigh*

[Fiending_the_freedom]

i watched opera the other day [LOL SHUT UP]
and they were talking about how stupid that law is because one of the guests got charged with possesion 3 times [his wife died and got depressed and turned to drugs] and had to serve 25 years

[Maverick]

Well there's one way of solving that problem. Don't possess drugs.

[Dante]

i agree with the 3 strike law..I mean how many chances can you give a person!

[serial-thrilla]

thats fuckin stupid, once someone pays their debt to society they should be given a clean slate. do you really think someone should be thrown in jail for the rest of their lives for 3 minor drug charges?

[Maverick]

Do you not read? It's for three felonies, not minor crimes.

[serial-thrilla]

i skimmed through lol, well i guess 3 felonies is another story but i think they should just be charged on the crimes they committed not on some other bullshit law.

[Fiending_the_freedom]

exactly,
i mean i know if they keep getting in trouble they need to try and find a way for them to learn there lesson, but you cant just give them time for something eles.

[*Dissident*]

my state, TN, is one of the biggest anti-drug states tehre are, next to texas and like, idaho or somthing. anyway, if you get caught with possesion, it is a misdemanor and you pay a fine, and maybe go to JAIL for a year! and if you are caught selling, up to TEN years, and this is fo a class C drug! (marijuana). in california, possesion of marijuana is just a 100 dollar fine, no record, no nothing.

[Fiending_the_freedom]

jesus! i understand the fines but a year for possesing it?

[Bankai15]

Bump it down to 2 strikes. :D

[*Dissident*]

why?

[serial-thrilla]

jesus! i understand the fines but a year for possesing it? it shouldnt even be a fine. a joint is less dangerous then a bottle of wine.

[Rogue 4]

it shouldnt even be a fine. a joint is less dangerous then a bottle of wine.

Well, many things are more or less dangerous than a bottle of wine, depending on what you do with the bottle :D

Anyway, in regards to the three strikes law, it varies considerably. The law (in most places) itself is that after being convicted of two felonies, upon conviction of a third you receive the punishment of life in prison. I agree with it completely in some ways, and disagree with it in others.

If a person rapes a ten year old girl on two different occasions and is found guilty, then yes, if they are found guilty of raping another girl, they should be put in prison for good. If a person has attempted to murder another human being three seperate times, then yes, they should be put away for life. But then there are the more stupid laws to consider . . .

I recall reading a story awhile back, that a man convicted of kidnapping (one of his own children, who he didn't harm, and had no intent to harm) on two occasions got sentenced to life in prison. What was his third crime? He destroyed a porcelaine toilet bowel in a public restroom. Destruction of public property valued at over $50 is a felony . . .

That kind of instance needs to be handled on a case-by-case basis. I think someone put away for life for destroying a toilet is one of the most tragic things I've ever heard of. Certainly, in that case, the punishment far exceeds the crime. I say the three strikes rule messed up on that case.

[Fiending_the_freedom]

i just heard yesterday about the guy who just got 106 years for 4 possesion charges, anyone eles hear about that?

[mRojas2000]

Can you provide an article?? I've been looking but I can't find anything!!!

[Rogue 4]

i just heard yesterday about the guy who just got 106 years for 4 possesion charges, anyone eles hear about that?

That sounds like sentence stacking, rather than three strikes. If each sentence got him roughly 25 years (and make no mistake, depending on the drug, it could), then it is sadly justified. The same thing would happen if one to accidently hit 4 people in a car. Manslaughter for each one would put you away for life, and I feel that is correct, as you ended the lives of 4 people.

[theonetheycallbob]

This is America that you are refering to. We came here to get away form crap like that. Three strikes, what are we in grade school. you commit a crime you get charged for that crime not a huge crim just because you screwed up. I think it is idiotic and it would never work for america. ;)

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YEAH SADLY THIS IS TRUE AT AGE 18 I GOT CAUGHT WITH 2.2 POUNDS OF WEED I HAD PROBATION AND HAD TO PAY A 2,000 DOLLAR FINE.AND AT 19 I GOT CAUGHT WITH A SCALE PIPE AND 2 OZ (56grams) AND SOME BAGGIES AND GOT 2 YEARS AND 6 ON PROBATION.....ITS HORRIBLE BEACUSE I CANT SMOKE ANY MORE OR I GO TO JAIL FOR GOOD.ITS SAD THAT I CAN GET LIFE FOR A PLANT THAT OCCURS NATURALLY ON EARTH

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