Regarding the new VT Forums "logo"

[Flippy]

I find it kind of unappealing and the previous one was better due to the vivid theme and flow it had. This one is a large rounded rectangle with gloss and a C4D forced into it.

Now I'm not being agressive so Origami if you come here with desires to warn me, don't, it's for a suggestion.

Make a contest, the best banner will be the new one.

[skinny_white_boy]

The old logo was just, old...
I personally like the new logo.
If you don't like the colors then maybe try changing your theme?
I think there's still one theme with the old logo if it's what you like.

[Fushigi]

its kinda cool!! :) i like both logos

[Jess]

I like them. Origami did a very good job..

[Vonn]

A lot of people already like his logo. Even if there was a contest, not everybody would be satisfied with the winner. Much like yourself and the new logo.

[Iron Man]

I personally like this logo. If you are dissatisfied, choose a different theme, plain and simple.

[Origami]

Ironically, I'm the only one who can reconcile with you. I know you have a distaste for the the new banner, as you've stated before this thread.
Now, I do see the rounded issue- I even created a flat version to "fit" better as you had said prior to this as well. It was blatantly ignored by the community.
I'll point out, again, about the C4D. I hate it. I only put it in because the original Forever Blue had a C4D, the only difference is that mine isn't as vivid. Honestly, I wasn't aiming to redo the VT logo, nor is this a "new" logo as everyone says. More than not, this was a modernization of the previous logos.

If Ant is up for a "competition" of sorts, then by all means, my logos can die. I only aimed to kick-start the graphics community here on VT, and by doing this, it was merely another step in that. So again, by all means, I encourage you to make one that the community will replace this with. I've shown Ant my banner for a personal forum, and it shits on VT's "new logo." This is a building platform for future artists to say "hey, I can change shit" considering all previous theme and banner attempts were shot down, quickly.
So again, please, do better than the second-rate banner I submitted.
What is my banner?
Custom Shape + One-Step Gloss + C4D + Text. It's the basics, not even a real banner.
Go for it. (:

As for everyone else, Flippy can't simply "change his theme." The vB logo is complete shit, and the new one is applied to all the old themes.

[Flippy]

I think most of you say "It's better" because:

I do reckon the old one was getting... redundantly, old.
Most of you don't know much about GFX and just accept anything as long as it's better than something else in your prespective, regardless of the lack of skill something has and how crap it is. I might submit a logo sooner or later, I'm not too encouraged because I'm no staff member, or popular user, therefore my submission might be overlooked, not promoted fairly, etc. Plus I don't come here very often, I need some help now and then with something other forums can't or don't respond to properly.

[Perseus]

I might submit a logo sooner or later, I'm not too encouraged because I'm no staff member, or popular user, therefore my submission might be overlooked, not promoted fairly, etc.
Not really. Many well established members get their suggestions, etc. overlooked. Just because you're new doesn't mean anything. If you can design something better than what Josh did, I'm sure Ant would look into it. But it all goes down to what Ant likes.

[Origami]

Then teach them something about GFX instead of blatantly bitch-slapping them for a lack of knowledge; however, in the end GFX is an art, and art is opinion. So no amount of knowledge will appease the whole community.

Anyway, do GFX like these fit your liking any better?
http://screensnapr.com/v/pV3gZJ.png
http://screensnapr.com/v/RxkgRo.png
http://screensnapr.com/v/HAwQ0J.png

[Aves]

I'm not gonna lie, if they were flat, I'd like em better. My opinion.

[Origami]

I'm not gonna lie, if they were flat, I'd like em better. My opinion.

http://screensnapr.com/v/v0NbUl.png
http://screensnapr.com/v/XFIybx.png

[mrmcdonaldduck]

I've got one problem. The one on forever blue is a bit too big. If it could be centred, made a bit smaller and blend into the background, like on B&G, i would love it. :)

[nick]

I've got one problem. The one on forever blue is a bit too big. If it could be centred, made a bit smaller and blend into the background, like on B&G, i would love it. :)
I agree, it seems too big (on Forever Blue) and I also think the green text clashes and it would be better in the same blue as used in the menu bars. The ones on Black and Gold and Silver Blue blend in much more successfully in my opinion. I also find the "recover, learn and grow together" subtext cringe-worthy, but maybe that's just me. At the end of the day its just a logo though and doesnt really matter.

[Donkey]

My only REAL issue is that the text on the logo is centered and thus the logo would look far better centered in the middle of the page.

[Fact]

My only REAL issue is that the text on the logo is centered and thus the logo would look far better centered in the middle of the page.

I noticed this but couldn't put my finger on what it was that looked out of place. I agree, it should be made central.

The other problem is that it now outshines all the plainer graphics, so it looks a bit... 'ahead of its time'. If it was flat, like this:
http://screensnapr.com/v/XFIybx.png
I think it would be more in keeping.

[UnknownError]

My only REAL issue is that the text on the logo is centered and thus the logo would look far better centered in the middle of the page.

I agree, it seems too big (on Forever Blue) and I also think the green text clashes and it would be better in the same blue as used in the menu bars. The ones on Black and Gold and Silver Blue blend in much more successfully in my opinion. I also find the "recover, learn and grow together" subtext cringe-worthy, but maybe that's just me. At the end of the day its just a logo though and doesn't really matter.

I've got one problem. The one on forever blue is a bit too big. If it could be centred, made a bit smaller and blend into the background, like on B&G, i would love it. :)

Agree with all of them about the centred bit tbh. That should definitely get done. But other than that I like them.

[Flippy]

Orgami, the only thing you posted worth calling "GFX" is the third link in your first post.

Those buttons, with all respect, are HORRIBLE. If you really want to use that gloss do something like this (http://i.imgur.com/9BgfX.png) and a GOOD font, border isn't necessary.

The other 2 banners are similar but without the C4D, it looks better, but it needs a lot of stuff there. Stuff that fits good and makes sense, not just some random fractal/C4D you found there.

[Origami]

First post: The first is a temporary seasonal banner.
The ranks are made with a font that is affiliated with the site they're used on.
The third is just a signature, what most people consider the shit of GFX.

Again, I only used a C4D in the banner because the original Forever Blue had a C4D in it. Drop the C4D point.

Post an example of something, and instead of attacking my work when I'm the only one really on your side, make a new banner and replace the current.

[Flippy]

Oh I see, just because I'm giving criticism everyone is attacking me now (-16 reputation points). Guys, criticism sounds rude at times, but I don't really mean it that way. You are used to sugar coated reviews. Whoever said I have no skills and I'm just doing this because I'm mad at Origami or whatever should really see my threads and posts more.

I better quit C&C about GFX in this forum, look how bad and unfairly I'm being responded to when I suggest something better for us all, I'll go back to my other forums.

Good luck with your current skills, VT.

[Rutherford The Brave]

Why dont we all shut the fuck up about the banner, and realize that our style of helping is what attacts people to this site, not the fucking banner.

[Kaius]

Why dont we all shut the fuck up about the banner, and realize that our style of helping is what attacts people to this site, not the fucking banner.

I have to agree with Greg here. If the banner is such an issue why wasn't this suggested before Josh's were put up? The banner is fine how it is. VT needed a modernized banner and we've now got one.

[Flippy]

I have to agree with Greg here. If the banner is such an issue why wasn't this suggested before Josh's were put up? The banner is fine how it is. VT needed a modernized banner and we've now got one.

Conformism isn't something good, you are it.
But if you like mediocre artwork, go ahead, I thought this place was somewhere to "help you get better".

[Rutherford The Brave]

Conformism isn't something good, you are it.
But if you like mediocre artwork, go ahead, I thought this place was somewhere to "help you get better".

It is exactly that, so why should a banner matter...

[Kaius]

I'm not conforming, i'm being realistic. The banner is fine how it is and if it wasn't then it wouldn't have been chosen. As the poster above me said the banner isn't important, its the help on the site that is. Now i suggest if you have any more issues with it you take it up with Anthony, Ronnie or Steph seeing as it was overall their choice to put it up.

[Cloud]

I really didnt want to reply to this thread......

Oh I see, just because I'm giving criticism everyone is attacking me now (-16 reputation points).
Thats not an attack, thats a subtle hint that we really don't care if it doesnt look amazing to your highly tuned artistic eyes,
we are happy unartistic peasants, and the new banner is pleasing to us

Guys, criticism sounds rude at times, but I don't really mean it that way. You are used to sugar coated reviews.
k.
Whoever said I have no skills and I'm just doing this because I'm mad at Origami or whatever should really see my threads and posts more.
You are the challenger, you bring forth your evidence, dont send us on a goose chase for it

I better quit C&C about GFX in this forum, look how bad and unfairly I'm being responded to when I suggest something better for us all,
how is it?

But if you like mediocre artwork, go ahead,
i do like mediocre artwork, i appreciate the effort.
and for something so, in all fairness, unecessary to the forum, mediocrity is fine with us
I thought this place was somewhere to "help you get better".
And a banner effects that how?




im happy how it is and i agree 1000000% with greg..

[Rutherford The Brave]

I really didnt want to reply to this thread......


Thats not an attack, thats a subtle hint that we really don't care if it doesnt look amazing to your highly tuned artistic eyes,
we are happy unartistic peasants, and the new banner is pleasing to us


k.

You are the challenger, you bring forth your evidence, dont send us on a goose chase for it


how is it?


i do like mediocre artwork, i appreciate the effort.
and for something so, in all fairness, unecessary to the forum, mediocrity is fine with us

And a banner effects that how?


im happy how it is and i agree 1000000% with greg..

:D!!

[Donkey]

I too agree with Greg... but a HTML <center> code still needs doing :D

[Flippy]

I really didnt want to reply to this thread......

Thats not an attack, thats a subtle hint that we really don't care if it doesnt look amazing to your highly tuned artistic eyes,
we are happy unartistic peasants, and the new banner is pleasing to us

This thread wasn't all about criticism to Origami's banner, I firstly suggested a contest.




You are the challenger, you bring forth your evidence, dont send us on a goose chase for it
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=87818
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=85593





i do like mediocre artwork, i appreciate the effort.
and for something so, in all fairness, unecessary to the forum, mediocrity is fine with us Conformists.

[Ender]

Why dont we all shut the fuck up about the banner, and realize that our style of helping is what attacts people to this site, not the fucking banner.

I have to agree with Greg here. If the banner is such an issue why wasn't this suggested before Josh's were put up? The banner is fine how it is. VT needed a modernized banner and we've now got one.


It's fucking fine! We needed something new, not the fucking touch of God. You seem to be the only one complaining so why not shut the fuck up?

The admins all agreed that Josh made a good banner, versus the previous suggested new banners we've had, and they decided to go with it, go them.

This thread was 100% unnecessary, and (obvoiously) turned into a spam/hate fest. Stop trollin bro.

[Scarface]

You all need to calm down right now. otherwise you'll have an infraction.

EDIT: The logo is fine, if the issue is so large and unsatisfactory to you then by all means make one and submit one, instead of making useless remarks that only result in an argument.

[Flippy]

It's fucking fine! We needed something new, not the fucking touch of God. You seem to be the only one complaining so why not shut the fuck up?

The admins all agreed that Josh made a good banner, versus the previous suggested new banners we've had, and they decided to go with it, go them.

This thread was 100% unnecessary, and (obvoiously) turned into a spam/hate fest. Stop trollin bro.
Wow, you are seriously the biggest retard I've ever seen on a forum, ever.

I firstly didn't complain I suggested a God damned contest to get something better out of it. I understand you all like mediocre artwork, you can all stop posting about that. I am not trolling, I doubt you even know what that means.

You all need to calm down right now. otherwise you'll have an infraction.

EDIT: The logo is fine, if the issue is so large and unsatisfactory to you then by all means make one and submit one, instead of making useless remarks that only result in an argument.
I didn't make this big! I only wanted something better and I asked nicely for a contest, you all went ballistic and attacked me like hell calling me someone with no skills and jealous. None of you had a reason to react like that, I am direct, I don't sugar coat everything and hide the issues I have with something by saying "Oh it's ok, even though I don't know how this stuff works it's good". Just because I do that doesn't mean I hate Origami nor everything he makes, it's just simple criticism.

[Scarface]

I didn't make this big! I only wanted something better and I asked nicely for a contest, you all went ballistic and attacked me like hell calling me someone with no skills and jealous. None of you had a reason to react like that, I am direct, I don't sugar coat everything and hide the issues I have with something by saying "Oh it's ok, even though I don't know how this stuff works it's good". Just because I do that doesn't mean I hate Origami nor everything he makes, it's just simple criticism.

You have made it big as you can see by the others demeanor it's definitely a disturbance. It's perfectly fine to have criticism about something, but do not address it in a place where it causes an argument. That's not acceptable.

[Powerline]

I like them. I think the Forever Blue one should be Centered though

[Jess]

if you don't like it why not just change to vB where the logo is exactly the same as ever?

[Flippy]

You have made it big as you can see by the others demeanor it's definitely a disturbance. It's perfectly fine to have criticism about something, but do not address it in a place where it causes an argument. That's not acceptable.

Where can I make a thread to point out the fact we could have a better banner and make a contest about it? You're all missing out the point of this thread and instead are attacking the criticism post, that is NOT the purpose of this thread, it was to call to a fair contest where we could get a better banner for all of us.

if you don't like it why not just change to vB where the logo is exactly the same as ever?
Read post above. I don't hate the logo, I just think we can get something better.

[Sugaree]

Why dont we all shut the fuck up about the banner, and realize that our style of helping is what attacts people to this site, not the fucking banner.

This times a trillion.


But if you like mediocre artwork, go ahead, I thought this place was somewhere to "help you get better".

A banner effects the site's helpful aims...how exactly? Look, we could simply conform to your demands, make some real flashy banner, and call it a day. If you feel that you want to submit an idea, please feel free. Don't expect it, however, to be fully agreed upon. I will say, however, that your criticisms are justified. But this is the decision made by the administration. It doesn't matter if you like it or not. In other words: Deal. With. It.


Read post above. I don't hate the logo, I just think we can get something better.

Then you can make another thread about it here in the suggestions forum.

This entire debacle over a forum homepage logo is going to make us all go mad.

[Commander Thor]

I've got one problem. The one on forever blue is a bit too big. If it could be centred, made a bit smaller and blend into the background, like on B&G, i would love it. :)

I agree, it seems too big (on Forever Blue) and I also think the green text clashes and it would be better in the same blue as used in the menu bars. The ones on Black and Gold and Silver Blue blend in much more successfully in my opinion. I also find the "recover, learn and grow together" subtext cringe-worthy, but maybe that's just me. At the end of the day its just a logo though and doesnt really matter.

My only REAL issue is that the text on the logo is centered and thus the logo would look far better centered in the middle of the page.

I noticed this but couldn't put my finger on what it was that looked out of place. I agree, it should be made central.

The other problem is that it now outshines all the plainer graphics, so it looks a bit... 'ahead of its time'. If it was flat, like this:
http://screensnapr.com/v/XFIybx.png
I think it would be more in keeping.

Agree with all of them about the centred bit tbh. That should definitely get done. But other than that I like them.

I too agree with Greg... but a HTML <center> code still needs doing :D
I do agree that the logo on Forever Blue should be centered but......
If you look at my screen shot here:
http://image.bayimg.com/gadjdaadn.jpg
You'll see that the logo /is/ told to center, but for some reason that I can't figue out, it isn't centering.

Also what I find weird, is that the logos between FB and B&G are displayed completly differently. If FB were to have the same code as B&G, not only would it fix the overlapping issue that some people are experiencing, but it would fix the centering issue as well.
See here for B&G's code:
http://image.bayimg.com/gadjfaadn.jpg

[Flippy]

This times a trillion.



A banner effects the site's helpful aims...how exactly? Look, we could simply conform to your demands, make some real flashy banner, and call it a day. If you feel that you want to submit an idea, please feel free. Don't expect it, however, to be fully agreed upon. I will say, however, that your criticisms are justified. But this is the decision made by the administration. It doesn't matter if you like it or not. In other words: Deal. With. It.

> Implying I think of this as a big deal
It was just a simple improvement, I don't say it's vital for the forums, but you know why I'm replying to this over and over again? I keep getting messages and bad reputation notifications and it's annoying me.

Just someone lock this thread, I already realized you don't like improvement, just lock it so my inbox can take a rest for once.

[Kaius]

OP Request :locked: