Can Faris draw/sketch/whatever?

[Magus]

Want answers? Then here is the thing: tell me what to draw, it can be anything but inappropriate(I wish I was allowed to) things. What I will draw or sketch is solely for practice and they will be open for critique by any one.

Also, you don't need to be very specific when requesting if you don't want to. Maybe a simple object, like Apple, and I will make a conceptual drawing about apple.

Please read my latest post to see the images.

or

Here is the list of works(Referenced: I drew it from an existing picture; Gore: contains gore and mutilation images; *: images that I made, and not asked).
Liger (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=2678&pictureid=16525) - Referenced
Japanese Wolf (http://i53.tinypic.com/z4ojo.jpg) - Referenced
Yamatsuka eye (http://i51.tinypic.com/dbmyys.jpg)
Phallic Allusion (http://i56.tinypic.com/2zfu5fo.jpg)
Neighbours (http://i53.tinypic.com/iempsi.jpg)*
Brutal Meditation (http://i51.tinypic.com/10or81e.jpg)(Gore)*

Still Working on.
Roman Legion
Baby with Umbilical cord
Victorian stuff

I hope it works and that this thread won't die.

[darkwoon]

A man wearing a toga, sitting.

Why? Because it combines lots of points that are traditionally considered difficult by artists: the human figure, the human dynamics, perspective, shadows, folds, to name a few. Bonus points for showing hands.

[Magus]

I can't spot the mistake, I hope you can.
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=2678&pictureid=16512
While at critiquing, you and others can make new things for me to draw.

[darkwoon]

I can't spot the mistake, I hope you can.
Well, at least I can try ;)

Hand and wrist: the shape of the hand is too much the same as the forearm's one. In your picture, there is no noticeable transition between both parts, making it look as if fingers were directly attached to the arm itself. The human palm is usually more square-shaped, with the wrist bone protuding slightly.

Shoulders: although there is often a lot of variation between people regarding the shape of shoulders, everybody got some - your character doesn't, so its upper torso looks somewhat alien.

Ribcage: same remark as above - even if it can be small, there's always one, but it is not really the case on your picture.

Perspective: the perspective between the seat and the character is not consistent - it looks as if the character was sitting on his left butt cheek only.

Arm: The visible part of the arms seem to lack definition in their shape. The front arms look somewhat curved upwards, and the slight curve muscles should make don't seem to be represented.

Folds of the upper part of the toga are definitely hard to follow - there is some "blur" on the right sleeve, and the lines between the chest and the sleeves are too thin to accurately denote the difference of planes and volumes between both.

Feet are maybe a bit on the small side compared to the head, but I wouldn't bet my life on that.

My overall (yet purely personal and subjective) opinion

Two technical choices you made are IMHO not appropriate.

First, you used a 2H lead; while perfect for architectural layouts or construction lines, this is a poor choice for freehand drawing: the hardness of the lead prevents efficient erasing while the weakness of the dark severely restricts the range of shading you can get and forces you to increase the pressure to get visible strokes. Replace your leads by HB or softer. You'll need less lines and strength to get the job done, increasing the precision and expressive range.

Second, although it is hard to guess the exact real size of the picture, I believe you worked on a too small surface. A5 is really a minimum for such a complex figure, and A4 is decent. Working smaller leaves less room for mistakes and requires a high degree of visual abstraction skills to properly work.

Now, on the drawing itself, my main gripe would be: way too fast. I'm pretty sure that you could have avoided most of the mistakes I could spot by working slower and spending more time on getting things right; I believe it is particularly true for the character's anatomical structure. It of course all depends on the amount of details you want to inject and your drawing skills - as a reference, if I were to try that with a decent degree of realism, I'd probably take 4-6 hours to get it done (but I'm not a pro by a huge margin, so a good artist would be faster, no doubt!).

While at critiquing, you and others can make new things for me to draw.
A hand holding a pencil as if writing, realistic style. Hands are one of the most complex part of the human body to draw. Bonus points if the wrist is represented as well (without sleeves... that would be too easy ;)) - the hand-arm attach points is a traitor awaiting the unaware artist at the first dark corner of a street! ;).

Hope to have been somewhat helpful!

[Daniel_]

Liger.

[Magus]

Well, at least I can try ;)
Hand and wrist: the shape... compared to the head, but I wouldn't bet my life on that.
You know. You made me draw the hardest thing yet. I thought I will draw some cubes and some spheres(circles adding volume to them). I am really bad at anatomy. And I alway hesitate at trying practicing them.

And there is no arm at all. I just draw two parallel lines. Shame Faris :judge: shame.
My overall (yet purely personal and subjective) opinionTwo technical choices you made are IMHO not appropriate. First, you used a 2H lead... properly work.
Yeah, I have shifted to B Granite pencil. A lot of softer and darker than that mechanical pencil.


Now, on the drawing itself... no doubt!).
Ok, this isrealism (http://browse.deviantart.com/?order=9#/djsbn1), and I am very far to reach that point.
And here is the hand.
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=2678&pictureid=16526
Sorry, sometimes my scanner act really strange.
Liger.
I used the picture from wiki as a reference.
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=2678&pictureid=16525

[darkwoon]

mmm... could you scan the pictures a little larger? Given the kind of pencil you are using, it is somewhat difficult to get the details (Use external free hosting like imageshack if you fear filling up your VT account).

Nice realism link - the day I'll be able to draw like that guy, I'll probably be 60 XD.

[Magus]

mmm... could you scan the pictures a little larger? Given the kind of pencil you are using, it is somewhat difficult to get the details (Use external free hosting like imageshack if you fear filling up your VT account).Here is the direct link (http://i55.tinypic.com/20k398l.jpg). You seem to be indifferent to that tiger pic? ;)

[darkwoon]

Here is the direct link (http://i55.tinypic.com/20k398l.jpg). You seem to be indifferent to that tiger pic? ;)
Not at all! I actually thought you'd make both bigger XD.

I'll comment the hand for now anyway:

Shadows and dark filling is where that picture would get the most improvements. Your dark areas are unevenly colored, showing darker and lighter areas, with the pencil strokes easy to spot. I'd suggest that instead of applying a single "strong" layer of black, you instead pass more than once on a given area, varying the direction of the strokes each time, darkening it more and more until you get the proper result. The idea here is that instead of varying pressure, you vary the number of passes over a given area. Ideally, the dark surfaces should look smooth up to the point you can't easily guess the direction of the pencil strokes anymore.

Also, I'd suggest not marking the perimeter of your shaded areas before filling them - unless you do it very lightly, it will be visible on the resulting picture and gives an artificial look.

Finally, you need to vary the intensity of shading - your picture basically is a "black or white" one with little variation between extremes.

Anatomy: the shape of the fingers is probably not matching reality - the thumb end looks very thin, and so does the other finger. I'd suggest using the tip of your pencil as a rough measurement "device" to get the relative sizes of elements. Not easy, though, for sure :).

Hope this helped!

[Kaius]

A wolf

[deadpie]

Draw yamatsuka eye in a dress.

[Daniel_]

Vageto.

[Magus]

Not at all! I actually thought you'd make both bigger XD.
Anatomy: the shape of the fingers is probably not matching reality - the thumb end looks very thin, and so does the other finger. I'd suggest using the tip of your pencil as a rough measurement "device" to get the relative sizes of elements. Not easy, though, for sure :).
Hope this helped!I got the shadow thing. Yeah, this whole disproportionate size thing is really bringing me down. I wanted to rub the fingers, but I didn't. I don't rub my mistakes, I love to look and learn from them. :)A wolf
Draw yamatsuka eye in a dress.
Underway.Vageto.Vageto? You mean Vegeta? Sorry, I don't like to draw anime. And I thoroughly hate Koji Inada's and Akira Toriyama's art style. I like Shintaro Kago's art style. You want me to draw some grotesque-like anime people? That I can do.

[Daniel_]

No, I mean Vegito*. You probably don't watch DBZ, but it's like the fusion of Goku and Vegeta when they fight Buu.(I know i probably sound nerdy, but idc, I love dragonball(: )

Try and make it look lifelike then, if you don't like drawing anime. Make it like a real person.

http://i55.tinypic.com/168g45d.jpg

[Magus]

A wolf
A Japanese wolf.
http://i53.tinypic.com/z4ojo.jpg
I think the snout is shorter and the right eye is off.
Draw yamatsuka eye in a dress.
This is avant-garde shit-sketch. Enjoy :)
http://i51.tinypic.com/dbmyys.jpg
No, I mean Vegito*.
> Implying Faris never watched DBZ
Nah, there is something not letting me to draw it... sorry... but anything else you got for me to draw?

[Daniel_]

Never said you didn't, but you thought I meant vegita, I meant vegeto. I spelled it wrong the first time, my bad.

[deadpie]

Must spread more rep around before I can give it to you again. Damn, that's amazing.

[Perseus]

Never said you didn't, but you thought I meant vegita, I meant vegeto. I spelled it wrong the first time, my bad.

It's Vegeta and Vegito. Gah, man. If you like an anime, at least take the time to learn how to spell their names.

Faris, I think you should draw a Roman Legion. :P

[Daniel_]

It's Vegeta and Vegito. Gah, man. If you like an anime, at least take the time to learn how to spell their names.



I don't like anime, just DBZ. and I'm just not a good speller, so sincerely I'm sorry if i pissed you off. =/

[Kaya]

Hmm you should try to draw a newborn baby--with it's umbilical cord attached.

[Triceratops]

Draw my penis.

[darkwoon]

Avant-garde Guy

Structure is probably the biggest problem with it - proportions are off, and some elements are deformed (the head is the most obvious example of that).

My suggestion: always draw the character 'skeleton' first. It is way easier to spot when proportions are off or shapes twisted on a skeleton than on the final figure. Also, turn your picture upside-down on a regular basis - most deformations you can't see suddenly become apparent.

The Japanese Wolf I'll say nothing about - the picture is quite small, but I think I see no important mistake on it.

Hope this helps!

[Magus]

Avant-garde Guy
Structure is probably the biggest problem with it - proportions are off, and some elements are deformed (the head is the most obvious example of that).

My suggestion: always draw the character 'skeleton' first. It is way easier to spot when proportions are off or shapes twisted on a skeleton than on the final figure. Also, turn your picture upside-down on a regular basis - most deformations you can't see suddenly become apparent.Yeah, I never try to take the time and draw the internal framework and flesh them out later. That's my problem I guess. :judge:
Faris, I think you should draw a Roman Legion. :PIt will take a while. It's hard to do. Or maybe not.
Hmm you should try to draw a newborn baby--with it's umbilical cord attached.Learning how to do it. It's indeed hard to draw a human.
Draw my penis.
Here it is: It's called "Phallic allusion" for the obvious reasons.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2zfu5fo.jpg

Neighbours... looks like some prog rock concept album cover art :P
http://i53.tinypic.com/iempsi.jpg

Warning, 2brutal4u. Brutal Meditation.
http://i51.tinypic.com/10or81e.jpg

[HeroesAndCons]

can u draw me something Victorian :)

[Triceratops]

I like 'em.
Especially the brutal meditation one.

[Magus]

can u draw me something Victorian :)
Some steampunk stuff, how is that?
I like 'em.
Especially the brutal meditation one.
If people like gore more, then I will draw more of that kind.

[HeroesAndCons]

Steampunk is good

[Iceman]

It all looks good. If you would like you could find some techniques on making some more detailed objects. Such as faces, and grass. Not like new faces but, adding lines to make cheeks, and wrinkes, thus enhancing the realness of the drawing.

[Continuum]

Faris please draw me anything considered barbaric, Headhunters perhaps?

[Sugaree]

Neighbours... looks like some prog rock concept album cover art :P
image (http://i53.tinypic.com/iempsi.jpg)

Looks like a mix between Pink Floyd and King Crimson. Awesome!

[Peace God]

Wow, these are great. I wanted to +rep you for the last post (but i cant :().
Looks like a mix between Pink Floyd and King Crimson. Awesome!
And Mars Volta.

[Magus]

Sorry guys. My computer ist kaput, without it, I can't scan.

But don't worry, here is a doodle

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=1487&pictureid=17383

[Spook]

Solar System? :P

Only a part cuz the solar system's huge. xD

It would be pretty impressive actually if you drew the whole thing, but I don't believe there's that much paper in the world. :D

[Magus]

I haven't drawn in a while, and those demands are difficult for my level, man. Go easy on me guys!

http://i52.tinypic.com/k9colg.jpg

[Iron Man]

A Covenant Assault Carrier from the Halo series? Google it if you don`t know what it is.

[Continuum]

Draw God for me. :P