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ShyGuyInChicago
February 2nd, 2011, 11:48 AM
http://www.switched.com/2011/02/02/sex-offenders-allowed-on-facebook/

North Carolina state law prohibits registered sex offenders from using social networking sites like Facebook or MySpace, but two lawyers believe that the restriction is unconstitutional. Attorney Glenn Gerding, who is representing convicted sex offender Christian Martin Johnson, argues that the law is too broad, and would prevent his client from using sites like Google or Amazon, since both platforms offer social networking features. "The regulation does not just keep a registered sex offender from engaging in obscene speech with a minor," Gerding wrote, in a motion filed last month. "It prohibits any and all speech, however innocent, even if it's a religious conversation between the offender and his priest, or a discussion of family matters between the offender and his mother."


http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/01/29/952624/lawyers-take-on-net-predator-law.html

Registered sex offenders aren't allowed at schools, churches, shopping malls or other places where children may gather in the real world. But what about Facebook and other spots in the virtual world?

Two local lawyers say it's unconstitutional to bar registered sex offenders from such social networking sites, and they're seeking to overturn a state law passed by the legislature three years ago.

Across the state last year, 75 offenders were charged under the law, which targets social networks such as MySpace and Facebook that allow minors as members. Eight men were charged by the Durham police and sheriff's departments last summer after an investigation determined that the men were maintaining accounts on the sites.


Two of those men - Christian Martin Johnson, 34, and Lester Gerard Packingham, 29 - are now challenging the Information Age statute.

"The regulation does not just keep a registered sex offender from engaging in obscene speech with a minor," wrote Johnson's lawyer, Glenn Gerding of Chapel Hill, in a motion filed late last month. "It prohibits any and all speech, however innocent, even if it's a religious conversation between the offender and his priest, or a discussion of family matters between the offender and his mother."

Packingham's lawyer, Lynn Norton-Ramirez, argues the law keeps her client from communicating with friends and promoting his business on Facebook.

But Lt. Gov. Walter Dalton, who sponsored the law as a state senator, says there are other ways registered sex offenders can communicate.

"We do have the mail," he said. "We do have telephone."

Dalton said the Internet restriction is no different from a sex offender being prohibited from running a food vending cart on a school campus.

"When you are deemed to be a sexual predator, sometimes you do not have all the full rights of every citizen out there," Dalton said. "It's got a good public purpose. We don't need sex offenders engaging with minors."

But online communication is not the same as physical proximity, said Rebecca Jeschke, a spokeswoman for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a San Francisco-based organization committed to Internet freedom.

"Speech is very well-protected under the Constitution," she said. "It's definitely a problem to say certain classes of people can't talk on the Internet."

The EFF supports educating children about Internet safety, while letting sites such as Facebook make their own rules instead of the government imposing laws.

Is law too broad?

Johnson's underlying sex offenses were two counts of taking indecent liberties with a child in Franklin County. He pleaded guilty to those after initially being charged with more serious crimes.

After serving his sentence, Johnson worked as a computer software developer, but Gerding said the law has kept his client from integrating his company's product with Facebook and MySpace.

"Mr. Johnson was unable to perform those work-related assignments," the attorney wrote. "[He] was ultimately fired from his job in part because of the restrictions and in part because of the charge in this case."

Gerding said the law is so broad that it prevents registered sex offenders such as Johnson from accessing websites such as Google or amazon.com, because these sites allow a user to create a profile and to share information and photos with other members.

"That could include sharing a recipe on BettyCrocker.com, exchanging information about heart disease on MedHelp.com, or speculating about the University of North Carolina Tar Heels sports teams on www.Scout.com," Gerding said.

But Dalton said he doubts the criminal justice system would try to enforce the law beyond clear-cut social-networking sites such as Facebook and MySpace.

"I believe that these cases show that the statute is doing exactly what it was intended to do," he said.

Intent may be key

Dalton said that if evidence shows an offender had no bad intent in accessing a site, a judge could consider that in meting out punishment. Still, Dalton said, that doesn't mean the law is unconstitutional.

Durham Assistant District Attorney Mark McCullough hasn't filed any response to the motions and declined to comment on the cases while they're still pending. A spokeswoman said Attorney General Roy Cooper backs the law but can't comment on individual cases.

The Durham County Superior Court is scheduled to hear the motions in mid-February.



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Ambrosia
February 2nd, 2011, 12:13 PM
Sex offenders are SEX OFFENDERS. Living, breathing, child molesting and women raping, sex offenders. They should NOT be allowed on social networking sites that allow them unlimited access to children.

UnknownError
February 2nd, 2011, 12:54 PM
Mmm I'd so add them. ^_^
That was a joke before you neg rep me for being inapropriate.

But yeh, I don't think they should. T_T
I mean let them go to church and to shopping centres. But not facebook.

The Dark Lord
February 2nd, 2011, 12:55 PM
Sex offenders are SEX OFFENDERS. Living, breathing, child molesting and women raping, sex offenders.

To say that there are only women raping sex offenders is wrong. Whilst there are fewer, there are still men and women who rape men. This sterotype that it is only women who are raped is stupid.

Charleigh
February 2nd, 2011, 01:03 PM
Are they actually fucking retarded?

Nevermore
February 2nd, 2011, 02:15 PM
What?! Do these peopppple have brains!? :(

I got a friend request from an ISPANKY awhile back ago. I was like WTF?! It was like an old guy in his 70's who looked like a pimp. I of course didn't add him. I only except friend requests from people who go to my school, so I was very upset and confused on why he friend requested me, since we didn't have any of the same friends. Stupid PERVE!!!

Amnesiac
February 2nd, 2011, 05:20 PM
Sex offenders are SEX OFFENDERS. Living, breathing, child molesting and women raping, sex offenders. They should NOT be allowed on social networking sites that allow them unlimited access to children.

>unlimited access
>children

Dohohohoho.

Sex offenders would not have "unlimited access" to 'children,' considering how easily customizable Facebook's privacy features are and that one has to approve a friend request before disclosing their personal information to anyone. Children don't use Facebook anyway, teens do, so don't act like making this law more specific will suddenly lead to a rise in the number of first graders being raped.

Facebook's TOS already bans sex offenders from using their website anyway, so it's not really necessary to have a law concerning it.

Sage
February 2nd, 2011, 06:23 PM
Sex offenders are SEX OFFENDERS.

Unfortunately for you, they're also human beings. You'd not want to be judged solely by your poorest trait, and so it's a poor judgment call on your part to do likewise.

Sugaree
February 2nd, 2011, 06:50 PM
Sex offenders are SEX OFFENDERS. Living, breathing, child molesting and women raping, sex offenders. They should NOT be allowed on social networking sites that allow them unlimited access to children.

Are we any better for downplaying them as lesser beings? I say they should be allowed on Facebook. They might have family they wish to keep in contact with that they can't reach easily or even trying to find old friends. You make them seem like they're the scum of the earth, which they aren't. I live near two sex offenders, they're nice people and have completely changed how they act. Making them seem like some type of mutated creature is appalling. lrn2humanrights.

Severus Snape
February 3rd, 2011, 01:14 AM
Yeah! Burn the sex offenders! Because they made a mistake we should limit all their rights and view them as subhuman!

Ridiculous. If our penal rehabilitation system is oh-so-brilliant why do we seem to be worrying so much about sex offenders when they come out of prison. Furthermore, why is it easier for a paroled murderer to have access to weapons than it is for a paroled sex offender to have a house by a school, church, child care facility, or related facilities? Hell, by these standards murderers shouldn't be able to join the NRA. Personally I would rather be raped than shot in the face. Let's stop blackballing sex offenders so much and focus on prevention and rehabilitation rather than post-prison punishment. They already paid for their crimes in prison.

Mmm I'd so add them. ^_^
That was a joke before you neg rep me for being inapropriate.


Lol, bravest 13 year old I have ever seen.

Quick_Sylver
February 3rd, 2011, 05:30 AM
Honestly, they're right about making it ok.

Just because someone is a sex offender Does not mean they attacked kids. With the laws in place that there are, anyone who has sex under age is a sex offender, regardless of consent. Yes, pedophiles exist. But treating them like shit because of it? Thats making you a lot worse than they ever were. Grow up a bit.

Sith Lord 13
February 4th, 2011, 09:28 AM
Unfortunately for you, they're also human beings. You'd not want to be judged solely by your poorest trait, and so it's a poor judgment call on your part to do likewise.

^This

Furthermore, why is it easier for a paroled murderer to have access to weapons than it is for a paroled sex offender to have a house by a school, church, child care facility, or related facilities? Hell, by these standards murderers shouldn't be able to join the NRA. Personally I would rather be raped than shot in the face. Let's stop blackballing sex offenders so much and focus on prevention and rehabilitation rather than post-prison punishment.

I have to say I'm mixed on what you say here. I believe in the housing restrictions, because true rehabilitation for pedophilia is near-impossible. Pedophilia functions in the same manner as homosexuality. If you can cure pedophilia you can cure homosexuality. All you can really do is put them in a place where it's harder for them to hurt children and easier for them to resist that temptation. That said, unless they repeatedly use facebook etc to target children, they should be allowed on it. There no immediate danger to children, so I feel it's an acceptable risk.

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