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nick
February 2nd, 2011, 03:27 AM
Al-Qaeda is actively tring to secure nuclear material and recruiting rogue scientists to build a radioactive "dirty" bomb, according to leaked diplomatic documents.

A leading atomic regulator has privately warned that the world stands on the brink of a "nuclear 9/11".

Security briefings suggest that jihadi groups are also close to producing "workable and efficient" biological and chemical weapons that could kill thousands if unleashed in attacks on the West.

Thousands of classified American cables obtained by the WikiLeaks website and passed to The Daily Telegraph detail the international struggle to stop the spread of weapons-grade nuclear, chemical and biological material around the globe.

At a Nato meeting in January 2009, security chiefs briefed member states that al-Qaeda was plotting a programme of "dirty radioactive IEDs", makeshift nuclear roadside bombs that could be used against British troops in Afghanistan.

As well as causing a large explosion, a "dirty bomb" attack would contaminate the area for many years.

The briefings also state that al-Qaeda documents found in Afghanistan in 2007 revealed that "greater advances" had been made in bio-terrorism than was previously realised.

An Indian national security adviser told American security personnel in June 2008 that terrorists had made a "manifest attempt to get fissile material" and "have the technical competence to manufacture an explosive device beyond a mere dirty bomb".

Alerts about the smuggling of nuclear material, sent to Washington from foreign US embassies, document how criminal and terrorist gangs were trafficking large amounts of highly radioactive material across Europe, Africa and the Middle East.

The alerts explain how customs guards at remote border crossings used radiation alarms to identify and seize cargoes of uranium and plutonium.

Freight trains were found to be carrying weapons-grade nuclear material across the Kazakhstan-Russia border, highly enriched uranium was transported across Uganda by bus, and a "small-time hustler" in Lisbon offered to sell radioactive plates stolen from Chernobyl.

In one incident in September 2009, two employees at the Rossing Uranium Mine in Namibia smuggled almost half a ton of uranium concentrate powder – yellowcake – out of the compound in plastic bags.

"Acute safety and security concerns" were even raised in 2008 about the uranium and plutonium laboratory of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the nuclear safety watchdog.

Tomihiro Taniguchi, the deputy director-general of the IAEA, has privately warned America that the world faces the threat of a "nuclear 9/11" if stores of uranium and plutonium were not secured against terrorists .

But diplomats visiting the IAEA's Austrian headquarters in April 2008 said that there was "no way to provide perimeter security" to its own laboratory because it has windows that leave it vulnerable to break-ins.

Senior British defence officials have raised "deep concerns" that a rogue scientist in the Pakistani nuclear programme "could gradually smuggle enough material out to make a weapon," according to a document detailing official talks in London in February 2009.

Agricultural stores of deadly biological pathogens in Pakistan are also vulnerable to "extremists" who could use supplies of anthrax, foot and mouth disease and avian flu to develop lethal biological weapons.

Anthrax and other biological agents, including smallpox and avian flu, could be sprayed from a shop-bought aerosol can in a crowded area, leaked security briefings warn.

The security of the world's only two declared smallpox stores in Atlanta, USA, and Novosibirsk, Russia, has repeatedly been called into doubt by "a growing chorus of voices" at meetings of the World Health Assembly documented in the leaked cables.

The alarming disclosures come after President Barack Obama last year declared nuclear terrorism "the single biggest threat" to international security with the potential to cause "extraordinary loss of life".


Source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8296956/WikiLeaks-al-Qaeda-is-planning-a-dirty-bomb.html)

Magus
February 2nd, 2011, 03:30 AM
Nuclear material and rogue scientist? Sounds like a raid to Pakistan.

Peace God
February 2nd, 2011, 03:38 AM
inb4 fart joke

Azunite
February 2nd, 2011, 03:47 AM
I hope it will turn out to be a usual Wall Mart raid

Magus
February 2nd, 2011, 03:57 AM
inb4 fart joke
90% of Pakistani diet can cause a serious gastrointestinal upset (aka Gases).

Perseus
February 2nd, 2011, 07:17 AM
What's funny about this is their nukes wouldn't be as sophisticated as ours and we'd probably be able to use our anti-nuclear weapon satellites and missiles, etc. to shoot them down, and Al-Qaeda would be boned.

Azunite
February 2nd, 2011, 08:02 AM
What's funny about this is their nukes wouldn't be as sophisticated as ours and we'd probably be able to use our anti-nuclear weapon satellites and missiles, etc. to shoot them down, and Al-Qaeda would be boned.

That gave me a boner.

That is what I am talking about Al-Qaeda will never attack massively.

embers
February 2nd, 2011, 03:27 PM
Nuclear material and rogue scientist? Sounds like a raid to Pakistan.

I bet India has some first-class news coverage of this, anything to put us down :P

90% of Pakistani diet can cause a serious gastrointestinal upset (aka Gases).

You've no idea.


Well, here's to the beginning of a nuclear war that will end up not happening.

Amnesiac
February 2nd, 2011, 05:17 PM
I doubt anything will come out of Al Qaeda, but the possibility still stands. Scary stuff.

inb4 fart joke

inb4 your mom joke

Your mom is a dirty bomb; when she climaxes it's like a nuclear explosion.

Kahn
February 3rd, 2011, 12:21 AM
I blame video games. This is obviously where they're getting these ideas.

Commander Thor
February 3rd, 2011, 12:48 AM
I blame video games. This is obviously where they're getting these ideas.

Obviously.
And it's from MW2 again! With the tactical nukes & such!

Iron Man
February 3rd, 2011, 01:04 AM
Obviously.
And it's from MW2 again! With the tactical nukes & such!

Yes, and I`ll bet that Al Queda fighters sit on their asses figuring out their next terror plot by playing "No Russian" multiple times.

Severus Snape
February 3rd, 2011, 01:09 AM
I don't think this is anything new to be honest. I bet they've been trying for a long time.

Azunite
February 3rd, 2011, 04:39 AM
Obviously.
And it's from MW2 again! With the tactical nukes & such!

If they are getting the ideas from MW2, that means they'll hit Burger Town soon.

Magus
February 3rd, 2011, 09:04 AM
What's funny about this is their nukes wouldn't be as sophisticated as ours and we'd probably be able to use our anti-nuclear weapon satellites and missiles, etc. to shoot them down, and Al-Qaeda would be boned.Yeah-yeah: Despite having all that advanced cutting edge high-tech you brag about, you still cannot beat some brainwashed idiots with no knowledge of the outside world in some backward mountains?! Shame :no:

Oh yes, I forget -- you guys do have them...
http://abriefhistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/predator.jpg
Unfortunately... it only killed some families instead.

Azunite
February 3rd, 2011, 09:21 AM
Faris has reached 3 killstreak.
*czz bzz* UAV online

Commander Thor
February 3rd, 2011, 12:26 PM
What's funny about this is their nukes wouldn't be as sophisticated as ours and we'd probably be able to use our anti-nuclear weapon satellites and missiles, etc. to shoot them down, and Al-Qaeda would be boned.

(Can't believe I missed this post...)

Surely you can't think that they'll try and launch a missile at us? Most likely the fissionable materiable will be smuggled into whatever country they're wanting to attack (Lead pipes block most/all of the radiation, making it undetectable), and build the bomb near where they're wanting to detonate it. But launching a missile at us would just show the world how expertly retarded they are.

Lights
February 3rd, 2011, 01:51 PM
Sounds like Chernobyl all over again. In saying that, I mean the effects of Chernobyl. A dirty bomb would have the same effect as Chernobyl's explosion, except instead of just a small city like Pripyat, it could be somwhere like London, Paris or New York etc. Somewhere where their dirty bomb could cause absolute devastation.
It's scary to think that they might execute their plan to perfection, but it's them against most of the world. We have pretty good defences.

embers
February 3rd, 2011, 05:10 PM
It's scary to think that they might execute their plan to perfection, but it's them against most of the world. We have pretty good defences.

I can just imagine the US going donkey-balls mad at the Middle East/South Asia after that. It's amusing.

Iron Man
February 3rd, 2011, 10:17 PM
(Can't believe I missed this post...)

Surely you can't think that they'll try and launch a missile at us? Most likely the fissionable materiable will be smuggled into whatever country they're wanting to attack (Lead pipes block most/all of the radiation, making it undetectable), and build the bomb near where they're wanting to detonate it. But launching a missile at us would just show the world how expertly retarded they are.

He is serious, and don`t call him Shirley.

Commander Thor
February 3rd, 2011, 10:21 PM
He is serious, and don`t call him Shirley.

That is precisely what I was thinking of when I typed that out. ;)

Iron Man
February 3rd, 2011, 11:48 PM
That is precisely what I was thinking of when I typed that out. ;)

Yay! I didn`t stumble on some guy`s feet!

Continuum
February 4th, 2011, 01:26 AM
(Can't believe I missed this post...)

Surely you can't think that they'll try and launch a missile at us? Most likely the fissionable materiable will be smuggled into whatever country they're wanting to attack (Lead pipes block most/all of the radiation, making it undetectable), and build the bomb near where they're wanting to detonate it. But launching a missile at us would just show the world how expertly retarded they are.

They're already expertly retarded in the art of stealth and adaptation. What else they couldn't possibly do?

Sith Lord 13
February 4th, 2011, 12:11 PM
What's funny about this is their nukes wouldn't be as sophisticated as ours and we'd probably be able to use our anti-nuclear weapon satellites and missiles, etc. to shoot them down, and Al-Qaeda would be boned.

The plan isn't for a nuke, it's for a dirty bomb. World of difference.

Lesson time: A nuke is a weapon of mass destruction. It uses atomic power to generate the explosion, as opposed to a dirty bomb, which is a regular explosive covered in radioactive material. A dirty bomb is a terrorist weapon, literally. You know why? Because everyone freaks when they hear the word nuclear. In reality, the radiation from a dirty bomb is removed with a shower. So long as common sense is followed (shower well, authorities decon the area), you're not in any more danger from a dirty bomb than you are from a regular one.

Bio and chemical weapons, on the other hand, are very dangerous. These ARE something to be wary of, and can be much more lethal than a conventional explosive of the same size.

Perseus
February 4th, 2011, 04:03 PM
The plan isn't for a nuke, it's for a dirty bomb. World of difference.

Lesson time: A nuke is a weapon of mass destruction. It uses atomic power to generate the explosion, as opposed to a dirty bomb, which is a regular explosive covered in radioactive material. A dirty bomb is a terrorist weapon, literally. You know why? Because everyone freaks when they hear the word nuclear. In reality, the radiation from a dirty bomb is removed with a shower. So long as common sense is followed (shower well, authorities decon the area), you're not in any more danger from a dirty bomb than you are from a regular one.

Bio and chemical weapons, on the other hand, are very dangerous. These ARE something to be wary of, and can be much more lethal than a conventional explosive of the same size.
Oh. Well, that's not that bad.

Continuum
February 7th, 2011, 08:52 AM
Oh. Well, that's not that bad.

Easy for you to say. Besides, they're probably intelligent enough to know that a dirty bomb wouldn't actually work great on US soil. They'd probably go for the bigger catch, or completely switch to a more efficient Anthrax bomb.

Perseus
February 7th, 2011, 04:03 PM
Easy for you to say. Besides, they're probably intelligent enough to know that a dirty bomb wouldn't actually work great on US soil. They'd probably go for the bigger catch, or completely switch to a more efficient Anthrax bomb.

I thought it was worse. It's still bad but not as bad as I thought.

Magus
February 8th, 2011, 03:54 AM
Anthrax bomb.Undergraduate who took biochemistry and a lab is all you need to make an Anthrax weapon.

It doesn't even need a bomb to make a good death.

I am glad that this guy is fictional.
http://images.wikia.com/cnc/images/e/e6/Generals_Dr_Thrax.png