my brother likes this band

[Afraid Of Me]

i dont know much about them but if you like metal. this deffinately hits the heavy scale

oceano

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGS8vvQKg14

[scuba steve]

Deathcore, huh? More grunting like a T-virus infested host, with very repetitive guitar. Not bad :P

Tell him to check out Thrash metal so he can actually listen to hardcore metal with real vocals!

[Sage]

Anyone else miss the days when "heavy" didn't usually refer to garbage?

[scuba steve]

Anyone else miss the days when "heavy" didn't usually refer to garbage?

You mean like 40 years ago when it was Nazarath and Black Sabbath? :P

[BOBBY HILL]

Oh geez this band is exploding with originality.

[scuba steve]

Real Metal:

3hVqpjZ8qWM

[deadpie]

Deathcore, huh? More grunting like a T-virus infested host, with very repetitive guitar. Not bad :P

Tell him to check out Thrash metal so he can actually listen to hardcore thrash with real vocals!

Thrash metal? Moar like trash metal. Amarite?

[Amnesiac]

Thrash metal? Moar like trash metal. Amarite?

http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae65/TheDarthEgg/Trashmetal.png

Yes.

[ImCoolBeans]

yo stop hating, i'm not a fan of that kind of music but i'm not gonna go trash it... if he likes it let him like it... if you don't then cool, you don't

[Amnesiac]

yo stop hating, i'm not a fan of that kind of music but i'm not gonna go trash it... if he likes it let him like it... if you don't then cool, you don't

>implying I don't like thrash metal

Lol'd.

[deadpie]

yo stop hating, i'm not a fan of that kind of music but i'm not gonna go trash it... if he likes it let him like it... if you don't then cool, you don't

Oh, so there should never be such thing as negative criticism against someone work, so if they make any mistakes they are gladly made to repeat them and become shittier.

People are entitled to hate and criticize things too.

>implying I don't like thrash metal

Lol'd.

>Implying thrash metal isn't the biggest fucking piece of garbage in metal

[Amnesiac]

>Implying thrash metal isn't the biggest fucking piece of garbage in metal

>implying I think thrash metal is best metal
>implying I ever tried to heighten my tastes in metal above that of others
>implying my fondness for thrash metal isn't a personal opinion

[ImCoolBeans]

[QUOTE=deadpie;1169915]Oh, so there should never be such thing as negative criticism against someone work, so if they make any mistakes they are gladly made to repeat them and become shittier.

People are entitled to hate and criticize things too.



did i say that? no... there is a difference between trashing something and what you just described though

[Sugaree]

did i say that? no... there is a difference between trashing something and what you just described though

Yeah, that's criticism.

[deadpie]

>implying I think thrash metal is best metal
>implying I ever tried to heighten my tastes in metal above that of others
>implying my fondness for thrash metal isn't a personal opinion

>Implying I said you think thrash metal is the best
>Implying I said that you said that to put your tastes above others, because if anyone was to think listening to thrash metal makes their taste better, they must be fucking crazy.
>Implying the opinion is personal


did i say that? no... there is a difference between trashing something and what you just described though

Why do I even bother trying to debate things with people who don't even read or listen correctly to anything I say?

[Amnesiac]

>Implying I said you think thrash metal is the best
>Implying I said that you said that to put your tastes above others, because if anyone was to think listening to thrash metal makes their taste better, they must be fucking crazy.
>Implying the opinion is personal

>implying the opinion isn't personal
>implying implications
>trollface.dat.txt.jpeg.png.exe

Enough of the implications! We're off topic.

[deadpie]

>implying the opinion isn't personal
>implying implications
>trollface.dat.txt.jpeg.png.exe

Enough of the implications! We're off topic.

>Implying that trollface is an .exe and you can upload that picture as a .txt
>Implying I'm the one making the bigger implications
>Implying you didn't just give out your opinion, thus making it not as personal as you think it really is.

[Amnesiac]

>Implying that trollface is an .exe and you can upload that picture as a .txt
>Implying I'm the one making the bigger implications
>Implying you didn't just give out your opinion, thus making it not as personal as you think it really is.

>implying I have a personality or opinions
>implying you can't troll with an .exe
>implying implications have size

[scuba steve]

Hey, Hey calm the fuck down all of you, some people don't like a certain subgenre of metal and makes a big fuss!

My opinion towards Thrash is that it's one of the most skilled metal genres considering that it holds some of the most skilled guitarists in the big four: Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Anthrax - ok maybe not Anthrax but no need for the whole thread to turn to shit.

[Amnesiac]

Hey, Hey calm the fuck down all of you, some people don't like a certain subgenre of metal and makes a big fuss!

My opinion towards Thrash is that it's one of the most skilled metal genres considering that it holds some of the most skilled guitarists in the big four: Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Anthrax - ok maybe not Anthrax but no need for the whole thread to turn to shit.

While I myself can't do it, shredding or playing fast doesn't necessarily take skill. Take, for example, Metallica's ...And Justice For All. Yes, it's one of Metallica's best albums, but listen to it all and you'll realize that all the songs are in the same key (G) and the scales for the solos are the same on every song. Yes, they can play fast, but there isn't enough emotion and variety in their solos to make them truly great or 'skilled' guitarists.

Also, speed picking is easy.

[deadpie]

Hey, Hey calm the fuck down all of you, some people don't like a certain subgenre of metal and makes a big fuss!

My opinion towards Thrash is that it's one of the most skilled metal genres considering that it holds some of the most skilled guitarists in the big four: Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Anthrax - ok maybe not Anthrax but no need for the whole thread to turn to shit.

Yeah, lets see how talented these bands really are!

Metallica (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3_rsg2yvkw)
Megadeth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krWzyvt5Afo)
Slayer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7PmVcoum-o)

[scuba steve]

I didn't even know these existed but from looking around they're just edited pieces of crap that every band has slapped on them on Youtube including: AC/DC, GNR and Led Zepplin. Forgive me if i'm not following, is this humour?

While I myself can't do it, shredding or playing fast doesn't necessarily take skill. Take, for example, Metallica's ...And Justice For All. Yes, it's one of Metallica's best albums, but listen to it all and you'll realize that all the songs are in the same key (G) and the scales for the solos are the same on every song. Yes, they can play fast, but there isn't enough emotion and variety in their solos to make them truly great or 'skilled' guitarists.

Also, speed picking is easy.

Well they obviously can't be compared to other bands like Pink Floyd with the likes of emotion etc. but still playing that fast still takes some level of skill.

[Amnesiac]

Well they obviously can't be compared to other bands like Pink Floyd with the likes of emotion etc. but still playing that fast still takes some level of skill.

Well of course, playing any instrument takes skill. However, I consider emotion to be more important in a guitar solo than speed. The biggest challenge for any guitarist is putting their soul into their music.

Don't get me wrong, guitarists like King, Hetfield, Hammet and Mustaine are good guitarists, but they emphasize speed over soul, which makes them far from the best.

[scuba steve]

Well of course, playing any instrument takes skill. However, I consider emotion to be more important in a guitar solo than speed. The biggest challenge for any guitarist is putting their soul into their music.

Don't get me wrong, guitarists like King, Hetfield, Hammet and Mustaine are good guitarists, but they emphasize speed over soul, which makes them far from the best.

True, but among the best for the capability and I would have thought that fell into the category of opinion and I appreciate a wide amount of rock to know that some are uncomparable, two major genres in this instance could be Thrash with psychdelic rock.

[Amnesiac]

True, but among the best for the capability and I would have thought that fell into the category of opinion and I appreciate a wide amount of rock to know that some are uncomparable, two major genres in this instance could be Thrash with psychdelic rock.

I guess. I mean, Metallica and Testament's guitarists have mastered the style that thrash metal is played in, and they're the best in their genre. However, when competing against all guitar-based music, from jazz fusion to country, they don't stand a chance. I wouldn't say different genres are 'uncomparable'; they certainly differentiate from each other but that doesn't mean guitarists can't be compared with other guitarists. Part of being a great guitarist also means straying out of your own genre and experimenting in different styles.

[scuba steve]

Can you honestly even fathom trying to compare David Gilmore with Dave Mustaine? :P
But moving on, yes I understand what you mean I just didn't like the fact that it sounded as if you were completely overlooking the genre as insignificant.
BTW, Megadeth kicks Metallica's ass in my opinion they are very overated, alot of songs from Kill'Em All were written by Mustaine before he was fired.

[Amnesiac]

Can you honestly even fathom trying to compare David Gilmore with Dave Mustaine? :P
But moving on, yes I understand what you mean I just didn't like the fact that it sounded as if you were completely overlooking the genre as insignificant.
BTW, Megadeth kicks Metallica's ass in my opinion they are very overated, alot of songs from Kill'Em All were written by Mustaine before he was fired.

I think both Megadeth and Metallica are equally bad. Both sold out. That's all that matters, really. Their early stuff was amazing, and then they both leaped into 90s mainstream metal.

Also, Glimour is MILES better than Mustaine.

[scuba steve]

I think both Megadeth and Metallica are equally bad. Both sold out. That's all that matters, really. Their early stuff was amazing, and then they both leaped into 90s mainstream metal.

Also, Glimour is MILES better than Mustaine.

Mainstream? Perhaps they're much better known in America but over here there is only a small few who recognise even Metallica's existence, but I get what you mean Metallica can be seen to have went mainstream metal but I would have to disagree on Megadeth apart from their album Rush all have kept to Thrash in it's proper sense including some of their best albums like Rust in Peace and Cryptic Writings.

OOOOOOOHHHHHH, I really want to disagree but I still don't think it's right to compare a guitarist who sings about dirty politics with one who sings songs for people tripped up on acid :P It's like comparing Led Zepplin to Slipnot.

For the record I like both.

[Amnesiac]

Mainstream? Perhaps they're much better known in America but over here there is only a small few who recognise even Metallica's existence, but I get what you mean Metallica can be seen to have went mainstream metal but I would have to disagree on Megadeth apart from their album Rush all have kept to Thrash in it's proper sense including some of their best albums like Rust in Peace and Cryptic Writings.

If you look at both bands, they're actually quite similar. Metallica and Megadeth both started off with amazing, classic thrash albums and moved into regular "stripped-down" heavy metal and hard rock during the 1990s. This can be seen on Countdown to Extinction and the Load albums. Now they're returning to their roots, but they're both shadows of their former selves.

OOOOOOOHHHHHH, I really want to disagree but I still don't think it's right to compare a guitarist who sings about dirty politics with one who sings songs for people tripped up on acid :P It's like comparing Led Zepplin to Slipnot.

For the record I like both.

Glimour is one of the best guitarists of all time. His work is impeccable. There's emotion in so many of his solos. I can't say the same for Mustaine, which is why I have to disagree with you.

[scuba steve]

If you look at both bands, they're actually quite similar. Metallica and Megadeth both started off with amazing, classic thrash albums and moved into regular "stripped-down" heavy metal and hard rock during the 1990s. This can be seen on Countdown to Extinction and the Load albums. Now they're returning to their roots, but they're both shadows of their former selves.


Glimour is one of the best guitarists of all time. His work is impeccable. There's emotion in so many of his solos. I can't say the same for Mustaine, which is why I have to disagree with you.

Hmm, true classic Thrash has been abandoned looking at those albums but I don't mind the change I personally prefer the newer works, Like Rust In Peace and Youthanasia.

Gilmour produces much more mellow tunes that you can truly lose yourself in, Mustaine's emotion is his solid agression as you attempt to follow his obscene lyrics.

[Amnesiac]

Hmm, true classic Thrash has been abandoned looking at those albums but I don't mind the change I personally prefer the newer works, Like Rust In Peace and Youthanasia.

Gilmour produces much more mellow tunes that you can truly lose yourself in, Mustaine's emotion is his solid agression as you attempt to follow his obscene lyrics.

Rust in Peace is undoubtedly one of the greatest thrash albums of all time; my favorite Megadeth album. It's not 'newer', it's still classic thrash— something that ended in 1991 when the Black Album came out.

While I don't believe Mustaine's guitar work is really that emotional (I don't see 'emotion' in speed picking and rapid solos, maybe that's just me) but that doesn't mean his lyrics aren't.

[scuba steve]

Rust in Peace is undoubtedly one of the greatest thrash albums of all time; my favorite Megadeth album. It's not 'newer', it's still classic thrash— something that ended in 1991 when the Black Album came out.

While I don't believe Mustaine's guitar work is really that emotional (I don't see 'emotion' in speed picking and rapid solos, maybe that's just me) but that doesn't mean his lyrics aren't.

Hmm, what do you think of their later stuff after Rust In Peace, Youthanasia, Cryptic Writings, or Endgame?

Now you tell me, with solely guitar I would deffinately say that Gilmore adds alot of drama to his songs with the mellow guitar but I think that Mustaine is just great to listen to from the speed of it, it's the same as the likes of Dragonforce, it's going to fast alot of the time your not really picking anything up from it just listening in awe.

[Amnesiac]

Hmm, what do you think of their later stuff after Rust In Peace, Youthanasia, Cryptic Writings, or Endgame?

Now you tell me, with solely guitar I would deffinately say that Gilmore adds alot of drama to his songs with the mellow guitar but I think that Mustaine is just great to listen to from the speed of it, it's the same as the likes of Dragonforce, it's going to fast alot of the time your not really picking anything up from it just listening in awe.

I've only listened to Countdown and Endgame. Countdown was pretty good (I guess, a bit generic) and Endgame bored me, frankly. I didn't find anything exciting or interesting in it.

I'm more inclined to listen to softer music, so emotion is important to me when I listen to a guitar solo. I mean, yes, listening in awe is fun too, but that gets boring after a while.

[John Marston]

The singer reminds me of the singer from Suicide Silence (the way he sings) and a few other band singers...