Weed VS. Tabacco, Which is worse for your health?

[Lonely_Shadow]

i've been told that smoking weed is slightly better for your health than smoking tobacco, i believe that it is slightly better for your health due to the fact that weed was proven to be less addictive to caffeine while tobacco is highly addictive (link) (http://www.drugsense.org/mcwilliams/www.marijuanamagazine.com/toc/addictiv.htm) also there are no recorded deaths due to marijuana use in over 5,000 years of known use.
There are no cases of marijuana causing any form of cancer ever. A recent study by Dr. Donald Tashkin suggests a protective effect from cancer.(link) (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html)
Also marijuana doesn't kill brain cells. That rumor became famous because of a study done on monkeys in which the monkeys were suffocated with smoke. Marijuana doesn't kill brain cells, but suffocation can. In fact, a recent study suggest marijuana can spur new brain cell growth.(link) (http://news.healingwell.com/index.php?p=news1&id=528519)


I believe, based on these articles, that marijuana is less harmful than tobacco, but the smarter choice is to not do either, this is simply a comparison.

Whats your take on this?

[Magus]

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True. Tobacco, and specially the chewing type has a lot of health hazard.

While Ganja has less toxic material, smoking it is also dangerous to health. And the only difference between the two, is that Ganja is a deliriant.

[Donkey]

I believe there are more toxins in cannabis smoke so it is worse for you, however your average cannabis smoker smokes much less cannabis than the average tobacco smoker smokes tobacco.

[Magus]

I believe there are more toxins in cannabis smoke so it is worse for you, however your average cannabis smoker smokes much less cannabis than the average tobacco smoker smokes tobacco.
Nope, Cannabis has less toxins (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/31_07_06_drugsreport.pdf) than cigarette. But both are hazardous in a similar way.

Where it is...

Ah! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependen ce).svg/300px-Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependen ce).svg.png

That explains a lot.

[Donkey]

That graph doesn't just refer to toxins though, many sources confirm there are more toxins in cannabis smoke but of course the drug itself is less harmful

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7150274.stm

[Magus]

That graph doesn't just refer to toxins though, many sources confirm there are more toxins in cannabis smoke but of course the drug itself is less harmful
Doesn't matter which one has more toxin that the other. Both affect health almost the same way. As I have said, they are both extremely dangerous to health.

That graph is important. Marijuana(as you have shown in your link that it is more harmful), even though that it has more toxins, it less consumed than cigarette - which has slightly less toxins.

It is Time Consumed into Percentage of Toxins ratio; Marijuana users may or may not consume it daily, but cig smokers smoke at least one packet a day. In this way, I will conclude that Cigarette is a lot worse than marijuana.

[Donkey]

Yeah of course man, that's what I've been saying. Also, I vaporise whenever I can which removes harmful toxins

[PJay]

The way I look at it is pretty much everything you put in your body can be bad for you. You can kill yourself with drinking too much water, or eating too much salt. Moderation is important, which is going to be hard with things that hook you.

Personally I'm not going to eat only white foods and breath oxygen at night, but i'm not going to do stuff that is going to affect my health if I can avoid it.

I think in the west we allow people who aren't objective to dictate our choices, so they'll allow us to kill ourselves on alcohol and tobacco so long as certain key groups of powerful people make plenty of money out of it.

[Lonely_Shadow]

I think in the west we allow people who aren't objective to dictate our choices, so they'll allow us to kill ourselves on alcohol and tobacco so long as certain key groups of powerful people make plenty of money out of it.

This is also true but people should be aloud to make their own decisions, if they want to smoke or "chew" tobacco, that's their choice, they know the consequences, I'm not promoting the use of these drugs but i was just stating that if you were going to choose between using marijuana and tobacco, it would be wiser to use marijuana because its less addictive and you have less of a dependence on it.


Yet the best choice is to stay away from both, this thread is just an observation i made.

[Josiah7]

Both are Very Bad for health. How Bad - All depends on doses, how often taken ect.

[Strength]

some family members well into their old age and frequen weed smokers.

no adverse health problems due to weed.


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obviously its harmless.

[Josiah7]

Its not completly harmless, and is not a thing to say where kids of the young age of 12 have access to these fourms. There is much debate on this topic throughout the medical community. Not aruguing with anyone here - but please dont say a addictive drug is harmless on a public open fourm.

[Rutherford The Brave]

Let me ask you something , would you rather cough up a load of tar every morning or would you rather be perma relaxed?

[Quahog]

They are both bad. It's like asking which is bad for your health, running into a train, or running into a bus? Both are really bad ideas.

[ShatteredWings]

As this thread is heading that way, Do not promote any drug (This includes weed and tobacco guys)

[Nimise]

They are both bad. It's like asking which is bad for your health, running into a train, or running into a bus? Both are really bad ideas.

More like slowly pulsing electric current threw your body until you die(tobacco) or giving yourself a very small shock(marijuana). Yes I know marijuana is illegal but saying its a really bad idea is like saying drinking coffee is a really bad idea. Putting smoke from anything into your lungs can hurt them but do you really know anyone who smokes 30 joints a day and can not quit? No one has ever gotten cancer from just marijuana alone so really its about 40000x safer than tobacco.

[Magus]

More like slowly pulsing electric current threw your body until you die(tobacco)You actually don't die by that method, only the brain and heart rhythm changes. And giving yourself a quick shock is no different than slowly pulsing electric current. That's a bad analogy.

And both has the same effect as we have discussed, that one is no shorter or longer than the other.

And yes, people get cancer from Marijuana. It's true that there are chemicals that suppresses carcinogens present in marijuana, but then again you have shitloads of chemicals that are cancer precursors. That's why you don't see many people with cancer caused by marijuana; however, this does not mean you are immune from cancer when smoking marijuana, there is a slight chance that you will have one -- but comparatively, Tobacco has the upper hand than marijuana when it comes to giving cancer.

[Ambrosia]

While smoke of both kinds can cause cancer, marijuana causes less illness then tobacoo itself. Marijuana causes memory loss in the short term by killing off those brain cells needed and tobacoo kills off everything else in your body needed to...well, live past the age of 45.

Now compare marijuana to ALCOHOL and you've got yourself a fight. Many people believe marijuana should be legalized and alcohol detained because of the drastic differences.

[Charleigh]

Weed is more herbal :yes:

Tobacco has shit like car fumes and all that bollox.
Personally, weed is more pure, if you dont add anything to it that is.

[Modus Operandi]

The way I see it is, smoke is smoke. You're still inhaling particulate laden with foreign chemicals into your lungs.

[AgusCO]

but cig smokers smoke at least one packet a day.
That's a generalization. If someone feels the need to smoke one pack a day they have either been long time smokers or they have a bit of an addictive personality. I'm myself a cigarette smoker, and in a month (since December 23th) I have only smoked one cigarette


This is also true but people should be aloud to make their own decisions, if they want to smoke or "chew" tobacco, that's their choice, they know the consequences, I'm not promoting the use of these drugs but i was just stating that if you were going to choose between using marijuana and tobacco, it would be wiser to use marijuana because its less addictive and you have less of a dependence on it.



I agree with you on letting people make their own decisions.
Now, as for favouring weed...well,maybe yes from a health point of view.But drugs should also be analysed in relation to society and in that sense cigarettes are more accepted (By now, though anti-smoking campaigns are growing bigger).

And I think people should stop saying "Smoking [whatever you smoke,cigarettes or weed] causes lung cancer", that's as silly as saying "Fatty foods causes obesity". They're both factors of lung cancer(/obesity), and not the single cause to those problems, it's true that by eliminating such factors you reduce chances of getting lung cancer(/obesity) but "no smoking doesn't translate to "no lung cancer".

[Etzim]

The way I see it is, smoke is smoke. You're still inhaling particulate laden with foreign chemicals into your lungs.I agree. But Honestly Tobacco has a lot of chemicals in it that are extremely bad for your health. And marijuana Is not factory made like cigarettes, so it doesn't have all those nasty chemicals in it that the company put in it.

Depending on how the person grows the pot depends on how bad it really is, like laced pot most pot is laced but it depends what it is laced with.

But like "Modus Operandi" said. smoke is smoke its still bad for you either way.

[Magus]

That's a generalization. If someone feels the need to smoke one pack a day they have either been long time smokers or they have a bit of an addictive personality. I'm myself a cigarette smoker, and in a month (since December 23th) I have only smoked one cigarette

Yes, that's maybe a generalisation, and it is even anecdotal(from what I have seen).

When I was smoker(13-16), I used to smoke around every weekend, and not everyday, too. But since I was around smokers, they used to smoke every single day - morning before school, evening after going out of home - they smoked.

It brought an addiction in them; they have grown physical and mental dependency towards smoking. However, I was able to quit it.

But they still smoke till date. And as for adult smokers, they smoke a lot, I bet. More than three packets a day. True, some people smoke one cigarette a day - but that's of the few people in the pie chart. As you have said, they are either long-term smokers or addicted to the shit. The frequency of smoking has other factors, like the brand type, cigarette type and etc.

[CaptainObvious]

I agree. But Honestly Tobacco has a lot of chemicals in it that are extremely bad for your health. And marijuana Is not factory made like cigarettes, so it doesn't have all those nasty chemicals in it that the company put in it.

Depending on how the person grows the pot depends on how bad it really is, like laced pot most pot is laced but it depends what it is laced with.

But like "Modus Operandi" said. smoke is smoke its still bad for you either way.

Some things here are wrong:

1) Additives are not the main cause of tobacco's danger. Even organic, natural tobacco causes cancer.

2) The vast majority of pot is not laced with anything, that is a misconception.

Otherwise, you're about right.

[Rutherford The Brave]

Some things here are wrong:

1) Additives are not the main cause of tobacco's danger. Even organic, natural tobacco causes cancer.

2) The vast majority of pot is not laced with anything, that is a misconception.

Otherwise, you're about right.

Plus think about it, the amount of money you have to spend to lace any amount of weed. There is no money to be made. Its a great way to lose alot of money and to get yourself in trouble. Thats why people dont lace weed...

[Charleigh]

I think weed is more expensive but more nicer.
Cigarettes are cheaper and you get more of them, but they are enjoyable.

They are both nice. I dunno about healthy =L

[Noobzilla]

Cannabis is by far better than tabacco. It does barely no harm to you if you use it properly, it is less addicting (to me anyway, of course addiction can effect people but its not as bad a case as tabacco) Personally the only harm weed does to you is that, because you have an illegal substance you shall have a criminal record if found, which does so much harm to your life. Weed is natural, but can be grown in many different ways and have different quantaties of the 2 main ingrediants. Toxins are not a problem, these can removed by bongs and vaporizers. There is no such thing as an overdose of weed in terms of you dieing. Smoking weed can have side effects such as paranoia if you smoke too much. In my experiance so far (i am 15) the majority of my friends smoke cigarettes, therefor have tried and occassionally smoke weed. I havnt and never will smoke cigarettes but I would happily smoke weed. It is the ONLY "drug" i shall ever inhale

[bleedoutlove]

Weed (Cannabis) has many more health benefits than health risks (barely any). Smoking tobacco can slightly prevent the risk of getting breast cancer but look at the other terrible cancers it can cause.
Cannabis is a million times safer.

[Ruzlier]

The only danger to weed is getting caught - tobacco is one of the worst drugs out there. I think its gross, many smoke tobacco that smoke weed, ciggarets are CRAP! Stay green



Some things here are wrong:

1) Additives are not the main cause of tobacco's danger. Even organic, natural tobacco causes cancer.

2) The vast majority of pot is not laced with anything, that is a misconception.

Otherwise, you're about right.
Seriousley, the whole laced wee thing is so stupid! I have asked about laced weed when i was getting into it and most weed only dealers would say thats fucked up, people who deal it all will just be like I would loose business. I have never been sold or had somone attempt to sell laced weed (without me knowing) I have seen weed laced with pcp somone was selling for like 20 a gram(not sure but i think it was like that, he was amature)

But tobacco isn't as bad natural, it would just give you a headache though, since the reason you get releif from cigaretts is because it feeds the nicateen addiction you get.



While smoke of both kinds can cause cancer, marijuana causes less illness then tobacoo itself. Marijuana causes memory loss in the short term by killing off those brain cells needed and tobacoo kills off everything else in your body needed to...well, live past the age of 45.

Now compare marijuana to ALCOHOL and you've got yourself a fight. Many people believe marijuana should be legalized and alcohol detained because of the drastic differences.

Marijuana does not have one documented case in where it caused cancer. No marijuana only smoker has EVER gotten lung cancer, and people who smoke tobacco and weed daily or commonly according to statistics have gotten cancer much less.

Marijuana does NOT cause memory loss, it does NOT kill brain cells. Wheres your proof? Im my proof, because all the times I have smoked and asekd friends they have never found they had memory loss from weed, and all studies saying it kills brain cells where done on caged monkeys where they practically sufficated them with weed, for 5 whole minuets. NO OXYGEN AT ALL. After 4 minuets of no oxygen getting the brain will result in massive brain cell damage. But they did this for months every day, and once the monkeys died from the very ill conditions or being sufficated with only weed smoke untill they die, they count the brain cells, and there where many less after they did all this to the monkeys. WHAT A WELL DONE STUDY! Now lets ignore all those well preformed studying saying marijuana may stimulate brain cell growth and the proven face that the little notch in our neurotransmitters is filled by cannabinoids.

I think you are misinformed, not a moron, just do some research, look up the places that are not funded by alcohol and tobacco companies. Drugfreeworld is not a reliable source, that above the influence crap, yeah wonder how they afford to spew all those lies? Alcohol companies are a MAJOR funder to them. But they are against alcohol too? Well because alcohol companies don't care, they know alcohol won't become illgeal in the near future, but know marijuana or other not as harmful recreational drugs can become legal :D

[AnnaxSanity]

You shouldn't smoke anything, it's bad for your health. Organic smokes are always toxic. However, the study you cite about marijuana spurring cell growth sounds ludicrous because your body does not produce new brain cells throughout your life.

All in all, I'd put weed way safer than tobacco smoking, but you shouldn't smoke anything. Throw some money down on a vaporizer or baked goods.

[Ruzlier]

You shouldn't smoke anything, it's bad for your health. Organic smokes are always toxic. However, the study you cite about marijuana spurring cell growth sounds ludicrous because your body does not produce new brain cells throughout your life.

All in all, I'd put weed way safer than tobacco smoking, but you shouldn't smoke anything. Throw some money down on a vaporizer or baked goods.

So true, However just don't sufficate yourself with weed smoke and you'll be fine, its better to not smoke it, but you will be fine, it has never been proven to cause lung cancer, it is one of the cleanest smokes there is. But eating/vapeing is the best way to go

[Rayquaza]

They are both harmful so I dont do any of them.

However, cannabis has been proven to be less harmful than tobacco.

[rockymountainway]

Tobacco is worse, mainly because of the nicotine and, if in cigarettes, the thousands of other chemical additives, such as butane, acetate, and hydrogen cyanide. Marijuana, even if done in excess, has little to no negative health effects. A recent study actually showed that it increases airflow.

[Joshx]

The only danger to weed is getting caught - tobacco is one of the worst drugs out there. I think its gross, many smoke tobacco that smoke weed, ciggarets are CRAP! Stay green




Seriousley, the whole laced wee thing is so stupid! I have asked about laced weed when i was getting into it and most weed only dealers would say thats fucked up, people who deal it all will just be like I would loose business. I have never been sold or had somone attempt to sell laced weed (without me knowing) I have seen weed laced with pcp somone was selling for like 20 a gram(not sure but i think it was like that, he was amature)

But tobacco isn't as bad natural, it would just give you a headache though, since the reason you get releif from cigaretts is because it feeds the nicateen addiction you get.





Marijuana does not have one documented case in where it caused cancer. No marijuana only smoker has EVER gotten lung cancer, and people who smoke tobacco and weed daily or commonly according to statistics have gotten cancer much less.

Marijuana does NOT cause memory loss, it does NOT kill brain cells. Wheres your proof? Im my proof, because all the times I have smoked and asekd friends they have never found they had memory loss from weed, and all studies saying it kills brain cells where done on caged monkeys where they practically sufficated them with weed, for 5 whole minuets. NO OXYGEN AT ALL. After 4 minuets of no oxygen getting the brain will result in massive brain cell damage. But they did this for months every day, and once the monkeys died from the very ill conditions or being sufficated with only weed smoke untill they die, they count the brain cells, and there where many less after they did all this to the monkeys. WHAT A WELL DONE STUDY! Now lets ignore all those well preformed studying saying marijuana may stimulate brain cell growth and the proven face that the little notch in our neurotransmitters is filled by cannabinoids.

I think you are misinformed, not a moron, just do some research, look up the places that are not funded by alcohol and tobacco companies. Drugfreeworld is not a reliable source, that above the influence crap, yeah wonder how they afford to spew all those lies? Alcohol companies are a MAJOR funder to them. But they are against alcohol too? Well because alcohol companies don't care, they know alcohol won't become illgeal in the near future, but know marijuana or other not as harmful recreational drugs can become legal :D

Marijuana does cause short term memory loss.

[nocontrol]

Allright, I was to lazy t read all of this, I'm just going to explain what I know.

Tobacco causes lung cancer, as everybody knows, because when it is burned it turns into tar (not completely :P) It's addicting and costs a lot of money.

Weed does not cause lung cancer, it prevents it, it has even been said that it can cure it. It is not addicting, and if it is, it's psychological.

I read it's like running into a train or a bus, which is completely false, it's like jumping in front of a train, and sitting on the couch.

And I just read something about lacing. Nobody laces weed with anything, first of all, a lot of drugs are not smoke able so it would be a waste, and second of all, putting harder drugs in them, would be to expensive for the dealer.

[TheMatrix]

Marijuana does cause short term memory loss.

Please don't bump old threads, this one is from April -- more than 2 months ago.
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