2011, another bad year in video games.

[DinoCrisisFan]

I was disappointed to see that less than 5 fantastic games were released last year. This year looks like more of the same stuff. When will games be developed for gamers, like they used to be. The day the general population stops caring about graphics and start caring about the gameplay and story of games, is the day gaming will rise to what it was in the 90s.

[DreamSeeker]

It's all peoples opinions, I think this year is good as it's the release of pokemon black and White. And also the Nintendo 3DS which will make gameplay even more fun!

[JackOfClubs]

OK I'm sick of people saying "Oh we shouldn't care so much about graphics." Sure, a game needs a good story line and gameplay, but its going to be a hell of a lot better of a game with brilliant graphics.

The only two that I can think of that I'm excited about are Uncharted 3 and Motorstorm 3. And thats honestly good enough for me.

If you're all for the "better" games from the 90's, why don't you go play them?

[DinoCrisisFan]

OK I'm sick of people saying "Oh we shouldn't care so much about graphics." Sure, a game needs a good story line and gameplay, but its going to be a hell of a lot better of a game with brilliant graphics.

The only two that I can think of that I'm excited about are Uncharted 3 and Motorstorm 3. And thats honestly good enough for me.

If you're all for the "better" games from the 90's, why don't you go play them?

It's because graphics really don't matter, nor should they matter. Only 12 year olds and non-gamers think they matter.

[JackOfClubs]

It's because graphics really don't matter, nor should they matter. Only 12 year olds and non-gamers think they matter.
I apologize for liking to see a visible difference between my characters body and the surrounding objects without pixelation.

[Aves]

Seriously, graphics make no difference to me. Sure, they're nice, but normally I only really care for about 5-10 minutes.

And I don't even know what's coming out in 2011, so I have no say as to whether it will be a good year or not, yet.

[Vonn]

I play games for their storylines and gameplay. If the characters and landscapes look pretty, hey, it's a nice bonus.

(It's preferable that the graphics are decent, at the very least.)

[Perseus]

Skyrim and Bioshock: Infinite, as well as Arkham City are coming out. You also have Gears 3 and Mass Effect 3, with Uncharted 3 and probably other PS exclusives. Graphics do matter because I want to be able tell a difference in the landscape. If I try to play a game with, say PS2 graphics, my eyes become sore. You know why? Because it's pixelated. It shows work and commitment to the game, especially when there are little things most people won't notice. A lot of garbage games that took like a year to make have bad graphics because they just threw it together to make a quick buck. Graphics don't always matter because a lot of games are good and not have amazing graphics.

[Sage]

Graphics don't matter, but art style does.

[darkwoon]

I was disappointed to see that less than 5 fantastic games were released last year.
Well, 4 games that can be called "fantastic", it seems like a great year to me. After all, it means you got an exceptionally good game every three months.

You can't expect a mega-hit-future-classic to hit the shelves every week :).

This year looks like more of the same stuff. When will games be developed for gamers, like they used to be.
Gods save us from that.

Games should not be developed primarily "for gamers". They should be developed so that they are entertaining for many. Targetting a specific niche market before aiming at the very basic goal of any game is exactly what led to the endless repetition of the same crap in a different package.

The day the general population stops caring about graphics and start caring about the gameplay and story of games, is the day gaming will rise to what it was in the 90s.
First, the general population on average does not care much about graphics quality past some point - Wii or NDS success against visually more capable hardware clearly demonstrated that. And there are still lots of games that are focusing on gameplay or story more than on graphics - Professor Layton, Machinarium or the Sam & Max serie are very good examples of products focusing on content more than on technological achievements.

Also, if you browse various abandonware archives, you'll see that the game landscape in the 90ies was not really better than now - the difference is that bad games from that era are mostly forgotten, and we only remember the bests.

I expect myself to find lots of new good games to play in 2011. Probably few - if any - of those will be "AAA" games, but since I tend to favor entertainment over media coverage...

[Rutherford The Brave]

Who cares. Go outside

[Azunite]

I was disappointed to see that less than 5 fantastic games were released last year. This year looks like more of the same stuff. When will games be developed for gamers, like they used to be. The day the general population stops caring about graphics and start caring about the gameplay and story of games, is the day gaming will rise to what it was in the 90s.

Let me introduce you a Dragonborn from Skyrim, Jason Capelli from Chimeran War of survival and the hero squad of Dungeon Siege

[PJay]

I've got plenty to look forward to this year, so I'd disagree with the tread title. As a PC gamer I'm waiting a bit longer for some of these I know, but its usually worth it ...

My mum currently has on pre order for me, Fable III, Dragon Age 2, Assassin's creed brotherhood; Max Payne 3; Gothic 4 arcania; Deus ex (human revoloution).

I'll also be getting Skyrim even if I have to sell body parts to get it. I could live with this game alone this year assuming its a good successor to Oblivion.

I love eye candy and I have a pretty good gaming rig so I can have all the shineys turned on, but I don't want any of that at the expense of game play, duration of the game, performance etc. Batman was disappointingly short for me, although a decent and atmospheric game otherwise and looked great. Assassin's creed 1 and 2 were perfect I thought - amazing graphics, immersive gameplay, captivating story line and really good length.

I played Divinity 2 a few months back and although I thought the graphics were a bit crappy in places, the PC animation and some NPC designs were also a bit dodgy, and the demo nearly put me off. As it happened the more I played it I thought the gameplay was fine and enjoyed it so much I even got the expansion.

So ... yeah, won't be seeing much daylight come march when those orders start coming in lol.

[scuba steve]

Skyrim and Bioshock: Infinite

Skyrim!!! :rolleyes: Are you sure bioshock is out this year? I thought we weren't even going to be hearing about it properly till at least 2012 :confused:

Dont forget Mass effect 2&3
Resistence 3
Killzone 3
Uncharted 3
Motorstorm 3
God I love 3
Bulletstorm
Rage
Pokemon
3DS & PSP2 (don't you dare speculate about either before they're even retail ready)
Possible reasons to buy Move or Kinect (so far there are very little)

That's all I can think of right now, and I'd say i'm far from disapointed maybe you just don't like gaming anymore.

[Tristin.]

The games im looking forward to this year are:
Dragon age 2
Pokemon black
Pokemon white
TES V:Skyrim

Thats it for now lol

[Azunite]

OK I'm sick of people saying "Oh we shouldn't care so much about graphics." Sure, a game needs a good story line and gameplay, but its going to be a hell of a lot better of a game with brilliant graphics.

The only two that I can think of that I'm excited about are Uncharted 3 and Motorstorm 3. And thats honestly good enough for me.

If you're all for the "better" games from the 90's, why don't you go play them?

It's because graphics really don't matter, nor should they matter. Only 12 year olds and non-gamers think they matter.

Let me ask you guys a question:

Say that we have two games.
One has 10/10 scenario ( including setting, inventory etc ) but it got 1/10 for graphics.
And the other game got 10/10 for graphics and everyone said it scenario sucked hell.
Which one would you play?

[Tristin.]

why not play both?

[scuba steve]

Let me ask you guys a question:

Say that we have two games.
One has 10/10 scenario ( including setting, inventory etc ) but it got 1/10 for graphics.
And the other game got 10/10 for graphics and everyone said it scenario sucked hell.
Which one would you play?

I would play the good graphics one just to stare at it (like final fantasy XIII) and give the other one with great story but bad graphics a go and either love the story and get to like the graphics (like GBA games) or just not play it at all.

[Suicune]

The day the general population stops caring about graphics and start caring about the gameplay and story of games, is the day gaming will rise to what it was in the 90s.

Actually, graphics were more or equally important to people in the 90s than the 2000s. Have you seen the Zelda rap for example? Or the Sega and Nintendo war that went on for many years? Sega does what Nintendon't?

And whether or not there were many bad games or not came out last year is your own opinion. Graphics are a bonus to me, not a priority.

[Perseus]

Skyrim!!! :rolleyes: Are you sure bioshock is out this year? I thought we weren't even going to be hearing about it properly till at least 2012 :confused:


Fuck, I keep forgetting that. :P

[JackOfClubs]

Let me ask you guys a question:

Say that we have two games.
One has 10/10 scenario ( including setting, inventory etc ) but it got 1/10 for graphics.
And the other game got 10/10 for graphics and everyone said it scenario sucked hell.
Which one would you play?
I'd play neither. The game has to strike high on both to be a truly good game for me.

[Syvelocin]

Uh, Diablo III (hopefully) O.O

Based on how well Starcraft II seemed to do, I'm quite confident Blizzard won't let us down. Diablo needed a graphics update anyway, as classic as the games are. It's about time.

That's the only one I care about.

[Modus Operandi]

Graphics don't matter, but art style does.

I'd have to agree with this. Something like Gears of War's brown and lifeless art style will always be unappealing to me, no matter how good the graphics are.
TF2 has one of my favorite art styles ever, but it's had a massive shit taken on it recently thanks to Valve.

[Etzim]

I have no idea what your talking about but im looking forward to these and more:

Thats more then 5 buddy =)



Assasin’s Creed 3
Dead Space 2
Driver: San Francisco
Mortal Kombat 9
Gears of War 3
Portal 2
Rage
Crysis 2
Star Wars: The Old Republic
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
GTA 5
Mass Effect 3
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - (Infinity Ward)
Doom 4
Diablo 3
Kill Zone 3

[kixxfan46]

this year looks amazing to me
heres the line-up
pokemon black/white
dead rising two
mass effect three
FFXIII verse
Batman Arkum City
elder scrolls five
....and thats all i think thing of right at this moment. but thats like half the list and they are all great game

I have no idea what your talking about but im looking forward to these and more:

Thats more then 5 buddy =)



Assasin’s Creed 3
Dead Space 2
Driver: San Francisco
Mortal Kombat 9
Gears of War 3
Portal 2
Rage
Crysis 2
Star Wars: The Old Republic
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
GTA 5
Mass Effect 3
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - (Infinity Ward)
Doom 4
Diablo 3
Kill Zone 3

assassin's creed three was announced for this year? since when

[scuba steve]

assassin's creed three was announced for this year? since when

They churn that shit out like clockwork so it's more or less expected, like the tide or another medeocre Call of Doot.

[Perseus]

They churn that shit out like clockwork so it's more or less expected, like the tide or another medeocre Call of Doot.

Assassin's Creed isn't a yearly thing. They've already said it's coming out in 2012.

[kixxfan46]

Assassin's Creed isn't a yearly thing. They've already said it's coming out in 2012.

yeah thats what i thought. and unlike COD, its a quality game. so what if it doesnt make complete sense on the story? it still has great gameplay and great online

[scuba steve]

Assassin's Creed isn't a yearly thing. They've already said it's coming out in 2012.

Hmm, ACII and Brotherhood both came out after each other and the original is easily overlooked. Hopefully they don't fuck up all the mechanics when it's Desmonds turn, that white line to place a target wont really work with an M16

yeah thats what i thought. and unlike COD, its a quality game. so what if it doesnt make complete sense on the story? it still has great gameplay and great online

Quality? If there is such a thing as mainstream gaming, Assassin's Creed is apart of it. I like the series but it is far from quality, have you seen the amount of lag that's in it, the graphics engine could also be seen to be slightly more outdated compared to Call of Duty which still offers graphic variations with the same engine per game. Saying that AC is quality despite having a poor story (which I disagree with) and great online then in this context Call of Duty would be a product of higher quality.

[Perseus]

Hmm, ACII and Brotherhood both came out after each other and the original is easily overlooked. Hopefully they don't fuck up all the mechanics when it's Desmonds turn, that white line to place a target wont really work with an M16 The thing about that is Brotherhood is a continuation of ACII; it's pretty much an expansion that is worth sixty dollars.



Quality? If there is such a thing as mainstream gaming, Assassin's Creed is apart of it. I like the series but it is far from quality, have you seen the amount of lag that's in it, the graphics engine could also be seen to be slightly more outdated compared to Call of Duty which still offers graphic variations with the same engine per game. Saying that AC is quality despite having a poor story (which I disagree with) and great online then in this context Call of Duty would be a product of higher quality.
Although I do agree that the graphics engine needs to be updated, it's still better than Call of Duty's considering CoD's hasn't been updated since MW2, and even then, it still isn't that great of an engine. And there is no lag on Xbox LIVE, and I play it a lot to be able to say this. But I believe that they will update or remake the engine for three like they did for 2; they're not gonna make a new engine for Brotherhood. That's just silly.

[kixxfan46]

Although I do agree that the graphics engine needs to be updated, it's still better than Call of Duty's considering CoD's hasn't been updated since MW2, and even then, it still isn't that great of an engine. And there is no lag on Xbox LIVE, and I play it a lot to be able to say this. But I believe that they will update or remake the engine for three like they did for 2; they're not gonna make a new engine for Brotherhood. That's just silly.

i completely agree. brotherhood is just an extension because ezio's life was too long to all be in one game. it is a revolutionary game though. think about it. when have u seen a steath game where being steathly and powerful were this fun? and the mulitplayer is genius. so what is it takes forever to load? thats because they dont have the server space COD does.

just because a game is popular, doesnt make it just "another" game. look at Red Dead. that game was very popular too and it was also a great game

[scuba steve]

The thing about that is Brotherhood is a continuation of ACII; it's pretty much an expansion that is worth sixty dollars.




Although I do agree that the graphics engine needs to be updated, it's still better than Call of Duty's considering CoD's hasn't been updated since MW2, and even then, it still isn't that great of an engine. And there is no lag on Xbox LIVE, and I play it a lot to be able to say this. But I believe that they will update or remake the engine for three like they did for 2; they're not gonna make a new engine for Brotherhood. That's just silly.

As much as I loved Brotherhood just finishing the story last week, I couldn't help but think that Ubisoft was just stalling for time as apart from revealing some new god things and the moderate spoiler at the end the story of Ezio really didn't mean much in comparison to II.

I would personally say that the Infinity Ward engine was better as with each game it's fine tuned by the developers, there was no change in AC II & B though and framerates are always slick in gameplay.

[Perseus]

I would personally say that the Infinity Ward engine was better as with each game it's fine tuned by the developers, there was no change in AC II & B though and framerates are always slick in gameplay.

I noticed differences, but I can't think of them, and I never noticed framerate drop.

[austin callahan]

call of duty black ops ruined my year

[Hyper]

I stopped caring about new games years and years ago, back when Pentium 4 was like OMG!

And years ago I stopped caring about games all together

Though I am definitely one of those older nerd breeds that plays the occasional 90s/early 00s game

[BOBBY HILL]

>2011

Not even the first month has passed


Idiot.

[Mxio]

cant wait till pokemon black and white come out pokemon for the win!!!:D

[Suicune]

cant wait till pokemon black and white come out pokemon for the win!!!:D

:cool: Just a little over a month away! :D

[Pink_Floyd]

2011 is going to be off to a killer start for PS3 users :D

Uncharted 3 (also Uncharted on NGP)
Killzone 3
Next-Gen Portable for Playstation

Gears of War 3, and whatever crappy Call of Duty game that will probably come out since they like to rush it and release it every year. Not to mention any announcements of future hardware. (PS4, Xbox) Oh, and I guess the 3DS or whatever its called. Yuck

I honestly love the way video games are headed right now. Maybe its because I'm Hardcore/Casual at the same time. I just need a T.V to really experience these graphics.

[JackOfClubs]

2011 is going to be off to a killer start for PS3 users :D

Uncharted 3 (also Uncharted on NGP)
Killzone 3
Next-Gen Portable for Playstation

Gears of War 3, and whatever crappy Call of Duty game that will probably come out since they like to rush it and release it every year. Not to mention any announcements of future hardware. (PS4, Xbox) Oh, and I guess the 3DS or whatever its called. Yuck

I honestly love the way video games are headed right now. Maybe its because I'm Hardcore/Casual at the same time. I just need a T.V to really experience these graphics.
I just want to point out that it will be at least next year before any announcements on the next gen consoles are made. The PS3 already supports 3D, and there isn't really anything higher than 1080p yet, so there's no real need to up the resolution. Same for the 360, except it doesn't support 3D. In my personal opinion the PS3 will have a longer lifetime than the current XBox, due to the fact that it has the 3D capabilities.

I agree with the rest though.

[Pink_Floyd]

I just want to point out that it will be at least next year before any announcements on the next gen consoles are made. The PS3 already supports 3D, and there isn't really anything higher than 1080p yet, so there's no real need to up the resolution. Same for the 360, except it doesn't support 3D. In my personal opinion the PS3 will have a longer lifetime than the current XBox, due to the fact that it has the 3D capabilities.

I agree with the rest though.

True about the 3D part. I guess I'll maybe take back what I said about the future-gen systems. It could be one of those years where all you hear is rumors.

I don't really care too much about PS4 and 3D anyways. Can't afford them.

[scuba steve]

The likelyhood that there will be any update to the current gen consoles in the near future is slim: there is no demand in a gaming market who's target audience is turning more and more casual (casual gamers could care less about the sophistication of technology as long as it's fun there) As Jack also said there is no let's dub it "super HD" yet so there is no higher in resolution we can go, the latest thing in the market so far is 3D and company's are going to wait that out to see if it will catch on as TV's get cheaper before unveiling something more expensive and sophisticated. Developers also have only just got their hands around Blu-ray so the likely hood of a ps4 would be pointless as it's just once again throwing them in the deep end.

In my opinion the only hardware update if any that we could see to consoles, could be the possible Xbox 360 adoption towards the Blu-ray drive as they take further market share from DVD, allowing more competitive gaming between it and the PS3. Blu-ray will continue to expand and discs as big as 200 GB have been produced for it. If hardware continues the next Sony console could likely use Terabyte discs holding 1,000 GB or more. But then again linking it back to the current target audience and market this advancement could be unlikely as it is no longer needed due to the cash cow developers like Apple have created.

Nerdy rant over.

[UnknownError]

I was disappointed to see that less than 5 fantastic games were released last year. This year looks like more of the same stuff. When will games be developed for gamers, like they used to be. The day the general population stops caring about graphics and start caring about the gameplay and story of games, is the day gaming will rise to what it was in the 90s.

Go play frogger and pacman and come back next year. Kay, thanks, bye.

[Perseus]

I don't understand what's so appeasing of 3D gaming. It sounds so awful.

[UnknownError]

I don't understand what's so appeasing of 3D gaming. It sounds so awful.

You can shoot people in the head and their brains come out the screen! XD

[Sugaree]

I don't understand what's so appeasing of 3D gaming. It sounds so awful.

I don't get the appeal either. What with the resolution improvements in the past 10 years, why 3D gaming is out there is way beyond me.

As for 2011 vidya gaem wise, it's setting up to be a pretty damn good year. id and Bethesda have great games coming out this year with Rage and Brink. Not to mention, a Tomb Raider Trilogy and Splinter Cell compilation are coming out in March. What's there not to like? Besides this, F.E.A.R. 3 is supposed to come out in May (but there's no set date). If you really think the games of the 90s are better, go back and play Wolfenstein 3D and leave everyone else alone.

[Pink_Floyd]

I don't understand what's so appeasing of 3D gaming. It sounds so awful.

I hear from a lot of Future Shop employees that 3D T.Vs are a tough sell. Not very many people buy them at all. It's a new technology, so its bound to pick up soon. Right? Well, to me I don't think that's the case. It's difficult for everyone to understand that 3000 bucks is going to get you a TV with glasses that you have to wear all the time just to make the movie seem to jump out at you. Not my cup of tea. I'm completely fine with just a normal (even SD) T.V.

Gaming on the other hand is even worse. Hopefully not too much time will be spent in the development of the 3D part of games, and more on the actual game itself. Not very many people have these things.

[Aves]

3D gaming sounds down-right awful to me. I think they could spend their time and money on the story and gameplay, rather than stupid gimmicks to get someone to buy it.

[Modus Operandi]

3D gaming sounds down-right awful to me. I think they could spend their time and money on the story and gameplay, rather than stupid gimmicks to get someone to buy it.

I agree; 3d games sound like a massive crock of shit. They ought get motion control past a cheap gimmick before they work on any other 'revolutions'.