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schrei jess
November 24th, 2006, 03:50 PM
This information was taken from vegansociety.com
Alternative Non-Animal Testing Techniques
Animal testing of cosmetics is entirely unnecessary. Over 8,000 ingredients have already been established as safe and there is no reason why manufacturers need to use any new substances. Where new ingredients are used, the law requires them to be safety tested - this need not involve animal testing. Cruelty-free alternatives such as testing on reconstructed human skin, using computer modelling and enlisting human volunteers are often more reliable than using a different species, with a different biology to test products for human use.
Why does animal testing continue when there are alternatives? The alternatives sound better and more accurate anyway, if the products are for humans why do they test on animals? Animals are different, whose to say we wouldnt have some weird side affect that did not occur in the animal? It makes absolutely no sense why this cruelty should continue when science has provided other ways!
Phantom
November 24th, 2006, 04:01 PM
Well I wouldn't really trust anything that comes off one of these animal loving sites. But none the less I disagree with animal testing except if its necessary and its on mice or rats.
Its Ironic that animal testing is caused by all these government regulations which in turn is caused by liberals who are the animal lovers.
This is why I am a libertarian less government laws and regulations = less animal testing.
schrei jess
November 24th, 2006, 04:06 PM
I dont think animal testing is neccessary with so many alternatives. Sure maybe the info is biased, but they wouldnt post completely untrue information. They wouldnt make up alternatives if there werent any.
And why are mice and rats an exception for you? They are animals too, they still breathe and feel. I dont think any animals should be an exception. I hope I live to see when all of this ends, I really do. If enough people change their ways, then we can change the world.
Phantom
November 24th, 2006, 04:22 PM
I am sure there are alternatives but not in every case.
If it just HAS to be done I would have to say mice and rats because they are the least intelligent with anatomy the most like ours.
I would say absolutely zero testing should be done on dogs, cats ETC
redcar
November 24th, 2006, 07:00 PM
for cosmetics animal testing has to be stopped because its just not fair.
as for the testing of new drugs etc. there is no alternative. they will have to be tested on animals, its the only way that we can get cures for all the diseases etc.
Whisper
November 24th, 2006, 08:48 PM
for cosmetics animal testing has to be stopped because its just not fair.
as for the testing of new drugs etc. there is no alternative. they will have to be tested on animals, its the only way that we can get cures for all the diseases etc.
I agree with Alex
Using them for testing cosmetics, hygine products, cleaners etc... Is wrong
We don't need to do that anymore
But we need them for the drugs
Its either use it on animals or humans
I'd rather it was an animal
Either that or we just stop finding and perfecting cures for illnesses
we already have super bugs emerging that are immune to existing antibiotics
Medical science has to continue
but it should be done as humanly as possible
they shouldnt be just kept in tiny cages
they should have complete enclousers like at zoos
they should be given pain killers whenever possible
and sedated when possible
I also think it should be kept to animals like rodents aka mice and rats as much as possible I realise that cant always be done
but it should be stressed as much as possible
as far as evolution goes chimps are humanitys brothers
we share almost 99% of our DNA with them according to TIME magazine and ALLOT of scientists that are like allot brighter then me
Species like dogs and cats have been breed by humans
they've been with us since ancient times
they dont deserve this
but like I said
any other kind of testing
NO
so ya
ONLY for medical advancement
nothing else
schrei jess
November 24th, 2006, 10:25 PM
Probably because animal testing is cheaper.
I remember reading somewhere that it is not actually cheaper. If I can find it again I will post it here to show you. I may be wrong, but even so, that shouldnt matter. If you dont have enough money to do the testing with the alternatives - dont test!
mRojas2000
November 25th, 2006, 06:27 AM
In a way I am against it.. animal testing is wrong in many ways... with cosmetics is just ridiculous... I don't care if the next door blonde has been waiting for the red #17495 color was coming out tomorrow but the last test showed that the thing could give you a pimple... WHO CARES??
But with medicinal, and new drugs we DO need some animals... like phantom said, rats and mice are everywhere and they are far from extinting...
JoshDude
December 12th, 2006, 05:32 AM
Animal testing is wrong.
Hyper
December 12th, 2006, 08:46 AM
See surten chemicals alone can be safe but combined they cant be safe.. I hope I didnt word that like a complete idiot, but animal testing in some what is necessary but I tend to consider it idiotic to test something that is meant for humans on animals
Break the Cage
December 12th, 2006, 01:54 PM
I completely agree with Alex and Whisper, for medical purposes yes, but for cosmetics etc NO!
empty
December 13th, 2006, 12:18 PM
Im 100% with you, the products are for US so they should be tested on US. Even if it is medicen we should test it instead of the poor animals.
JJJ
December 19th, 2006, 03:38 PM
Animal testin is wrong for cosmetics but im not reall sure about medical stuff because testin a few animals could save millions of human lives. If sum of the animal tests results saved one of your family how would you feel? Im not at all sure. Maybe it should be tested on humans insted.
theonetheycallbob
January 13th, 2007, 10:57 AM
I'm not trying to force my religion upon anyone but i am Christian, and according to out belifs we can do what ever we want with animals pretty much. So i see no problem with testing stuff on them. It may seem mean but honestly it is better to lose the life of an animal than the life of a human. and as for computer modeling and all that stuff im not so sure thats as good as straight up working on live real skin. which peole could voulenteer but then again, animals are more convient. I dont mean to offened anyone but that is my thought on the subject.
fdsgfg55465
January 16th, 2007, 08:48 PM
i like animals but if its benefiting me by testing them its better them than me, after all i don't want to try a new shampoo and all my hair falls out or something.
Activate
January 16th, 2007, 08:56 PM
Artificial hearts or pacemakers were invented on testing of animals. They saved millions of lives. I say for human surivival testing for medicinal purposes is okay. But cosmetics is wrong..
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