Somalia bans Bras

[mrmcdonaldduck]

AL-QAEDA-linked militants in war-torn southern Somalia have banned unrelated men and women from shaking hands, speaking or walking together in public, residents say.
People who break the rules could be imprisoned, whipped or even executed.
The insurgents already have banned women from working in public, leaving many mothers with a terrible choice: risk execution by going to sell some tea or vegetables in the marketplace, or stay safely at home and watch the children slowly starve.
"It's an awful rule. I feel like I'm under arrest. I've started to ignore the greetings of the women I know to avoid punishment," Hussein Ali said by phone from the southern Somali town of Jowhar.
The edict is also being enforced in the town of Elasha.
Gunmen are searching buses for improperly dressed women or women traveling alone, said student Hamdi Osman in Elasha. She said she was once beaten for wearing Somali traditional dress instead of the long, shapeless black robes favoured by the fighters.

The Islamists' insistence that women wear the long, heavy robes also forces many women to stay at home because they can't afford the new clothing.
Al-Shabab controls most of southern and central Somalia, and the group is trying to overthrow the weak UN-backed government. Analysts believe many Somalis don't support the insurgency because of the harsh punishments and severe restrictions it imposes, and because it often kidnaps children to use as fighters.
But after 20 years of civil war, the government is too weak, corrupt and divided to present a credible challenge to the insurgents. The Somali government is protected by 8000 heavily armed African Union peacekeepers but has failed to deliver any security or services to the population.
The insurgents even control parts of the capital, brazenly carrying out amputations, whippings and stonings in public places. The list of forbidden things differs from town to town and commander to commander.
In Jowhar, the insurgents are now also insisting that men grow their beards but shave their moustaches, said another resident, who asked not to be named for fear of retribution.
The Islamists have also banned the cinema, music and bras because they say they are all un-Islamic. Such restrictions are influenced by foreign fighters practicing Wahhabi Islam, which is much stricter than Somalia's traditional Sufi Islam that incorporates a long tradition of poetry and song.
"The last time I listened a song or music was two years ago, before the insurgents managed the full control of my village," said Bile Hassan. Now, he says, even the memory of music makes him feel afraid.


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Hey, fuck you sharia law!

[Continuum]

America, in my opinion, should focus on failed states such as them and forget about Iraq and Afghanistan. At least they're setting a goal to actually help.

[Suicune]

Layin' down the law.

[Mrs.KermitTheFrogx]

This is complete and utter ... B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T !!
why would you stop unrelated men and women ... talking !?!!!
its like WTFF ?! They need to be so god damn controlling

[Sith Lord 13]

America, in my opinion, should focus on failed states such as them and forget about Iraq and Afghanistan. At least they're setting a goal to actually help.

You realize that without US support, Afghanistan could easily fall into the same position as Somalia, right?

[UnknownError]

Wow...
Poor people that live there. :(

[Azunite]

Wait a second
What do you guys mean by bras here? Surely you are nottalking about women underwear...
America, in my opinion, should focus on failed states such as them and forget about Iraq and Afghanistan. At least they're setting a goal to actually help.

OMG Seriously people what is this "America should help these guys" "America should go there kill some people and bring democracy" "America should invade this country to do that"...

Do you think America is God-Nation or something? I am sick of people who say America should do this to bring this, America should attack these guys to make peace...

[Azunite]

(Sorry for making a double post )

[Sage]

America, in my opinion, should focus on failed states such as them and forget about Iraq and Afghanistan. At least they're setting a goal to actually help.

The United Nations tried to help Somalia back in 1992 with Operation Restore Hope. Needless to say it didn't work very well.

[Perseus]

The United Nations tried to help Somalia back in 1992 with Operation Restore Hope. Needless to say it didn't work very well.

That's because Peacekeepers can't do jackshit. I think Peacekeepers should be able to walk into Somalia and kill anybody they see that poses a threat to a civilian, i.e. an armed insurgent. Peacekeepers are a joke. If the UN weren't pussies, what happened in Rwanda would not have been so large scale.

[Azunite]

That's because Peacekeepers can't do jackshit. I think Peacekeepers should be able to walk into Somalia and kill anybody they see that poses a threat to a civilian, i.e. an armed insurgent. Peacekeepers are a joke. If the UN weren't pussies, what happened in Rwanda would not have been so large scale.

I see that given the chance, you could kill half of the Somalian population

[Perseus]

I see that given the chance, you could kill half of the Somalian population

The people wouldn't seem to mind if the insurgents disappeared.

[Azunite]

The people wouldn't seem to mind if the insurgents disappeared.

After you kill those people, someone else will step up and be the boss.
It won't end

[Perseus]

After you kill those people, someone else will step up and be the boss.
It won't end
Considering they have a government that is depleted of a military at the moment, no, they won't cause they will see what happened to the previous insurgency.

[Azunite]

Considering they have a government that is depleted of a military at the moment, no, they won't cause they will see what happened to the previous insurgency.

There will always be greedy people to buy weapons from outside, or outsiders who will "invade" Somalia.
And let's say America went there, for a moment. The problem there won't end for at least a year. After that, since America is there, America will need to provide any supplies Somalians need.
Then America would go to somewhere else, while they are fighting a war in Iraq and Afghanistan ( who knows where will America be in several years ).
You can't be everywhere.

And by the way I couldn't understand this part: You say their government lack an army but then you say there will be no more insurgency. How come there will be no insurgency while they still don't have a proper army

[Perseus]

And by the way I couldn't understand this part: You say their government lack an army but then you say there will be no more insurgency. How come there will be no insurgency while they still don't have a proper army
If the UN, not America, have a presence there after they kicked out an insurgency, then no one would try to take over. And I apologize for making it confusing. I could have worded it better.

[Sage]

I think Peacekeepers should be able to walk into Somalia and kill anybody they see that poses a threat to a civilian, i.e. an armed insurgent.

Do you not realize the sort of international uproar that would be caused if the UN could just go wherever they wanted and slaughter hundreds and thousands of people with a multinational military force?

[Perseus]

Do you not realize the sort of international uproar that would be caused if the UN could just go wherever they wanted and slaughter hundreds and thousands of people with a multinational military force?

I do know; that's the only thing stopping them from doing anything like that. What I said was extreme, but I'm just annoyed at how peacekeepers are counterproductive. But after reading a couple of articles, they aren't as counterproductive now since in some places they can retaliate. I'm just biased toward this subject after what happened in Rwanda.

[Sage]

I do know; that's the only thing stopping them from doing anything like that. What I said was extreme, but I'm just annoyed at how peacekeepers are counterproductive. But after reading a couple of articles, they aren't as counterproductive now since in some places they can retaliate. I'm just biased toward this subject after what happened in Rwanda.

The general in charge of the peacekeeping operation in Rwanda, Romeo Dallaire, said years afterwards that if he could go back and defy his orders to not intervene, he would. Remaining on topic, however- As unfortunate as the situations in places like Somalia, Afghanistan and Iraq are, I don't believe there is anything in the near future that can be done about them, and our presence in these countries only perpetuates a world police state that can't be sustained.

[lipstick_kisses23]

Christ, I can't imagine being those men and women down there... that's so sad

[Perseus]

The general in charge of the peacekeeping operation in Rwanda, Romeo Dallaire, said years afterwards that if he could go back and defy his orders to not intervene, he would.
I know. And this is my last post on the off topicness.

[Jess]

AL-QAEDA-linked militants in war-torn southern Somalia have banned unrelated men and women from shaking hands, speaking or walking together in public, residents say.
People who break the rules could be imprisoned, whipped or even executed.
The insurgents already have banned women from working in public, leaving many mothers with a terrible choice: risk execution by going to sell some tea or vegetables in the marketplace, or stay safely at home and watch the children slowly starve.
"It's an awful rule. I feel like I'm under arrest. I've started to ignore the greetings of the women I know to avoid punishment," Hussein Ali said by phone from the southern Somali town of Jowhar.
The edict is also being enforced in the town of Elasha.
Gunmen are searching buses for improperly dressed women or women traveling alone, said student Hamdi Osman in Elasha. She said she was once beaten for wearing Somali traditional dress instead of the long, shapeless black robes favoured by the fighters.

this just made me so angry.

[Sith Lord 13]

this just made me so angry.

Don't get angry, get motivated. Shit like this goes on everyday, in a lot of places. Find something you can do to make some kind of contribution towards making the world a better place. Otherwise you'll just end up being bitter and hating the world.