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singeramber
January 5th, 2011, 03:55 PM
In November last year I took the purity pledge...
All of my friends are saying I won't last and teasing me...
Does anyone else have these views or agree with me???
:what: :confused:
ProBaller40
January 5th, 2011, 04:04 PM
I say there is no point in the pledge. I am going to wait anyway. No need to 'announce' it.
Hopefully I'll wait :D, I cant see the future.
And they sound like great friends, jk. Either they are just playing around with you, or they are just mean and rude. You decide and take action. I would just not bring it up from now on, and if they bring it up just tell them to stop, and that you have already discussed about your pledge, and don't want to discuss it anymore.
DarkHorses
January 5th, 2011, 04:07 PM
Hey Amber,
Like any choice you make in life, obviously this will take a lot of perseverance. It's not simply a choice you make once and never struggle with thereafter. It's something you will probably struggle with in the future and you'll have to make the decision again.
That being said, it definitely isn't impossible. If you have the confidence that you can stick to your pledge and keep the promise you made then that's all that matters. I'm not sure if your friends are being serious or not. They simply could be teasing you and nothing more. It doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe you can stay pure. So I wouldn't let their words break your confidence.
Best of luck with your decision! I hope everything goes well. x
Daniel_
January 5th, 2011, 05:33 PM
I hate the pledge. Have fun while your young, just be safe about it and use condoms.
TheSingingBird
January 6th, 2011, 07:57 PM
I hate the pledge. Have fun while your young, just be safe about it and use condoms.
^^^Absistenence is the safest form of birth control, and honestly there's a ton of fun stuff you can do besides vaginal intercourse. But yeah, condoms are good too. :P
Don't let your friends bother you. If you feel offended just talk to them and ask them to respect your choice, and if they value your friendship they will. Usually it's just teenagers fooling around though. Good luck
red_dragon
January 7th, 2011, 01:24 PM
Don't worry about the teasing or the comments you're missing a lot. As long as you are committed to the idea and stand by it through all temptations you'll do fine. I never took a pledge myself but have made a voluntary vow of Abstinence when I was 12 and haven't broken it since. Many make fun and rebuke me but I have not had sex, nor smoke nor even touched any alcohol. Don't worry what others think, if it is important to you that's all that matters, all the best and good luck!
Daniel_
January 7th, 2011, 04:31 PM
^^^Absistenence is the safest form of birth control
That sounds like something my grandmother would say.
PJay
January 7th, 2011, 04:36 PM
That sounds like something my grandmother would say.
Apparently didn't work out too well for her then ...
kyle95
January 7th, 2011, 07:49 PM
it certainly is worth a try if you feel strongly about this. there are others who are on the other end of the spectrum willing to do it with anyone, anywhere, and anytime. we're in high school, reputation counts for something. i say go for it but also ask your friends to respect your wishes. good luck :)
TheSingingBird
January 8th, 2011, 09:19 PM
That sounds like something my grandmother would say.
Sometimes our elders have the right idea. :)
Daniel_
January 8th, 2011, 11:19 PM
Sometimes our elders have the right idea. :)
Not in this case.
Sage
January 9th, 2011, 07:43 AM
Life is too short to take pride in not doing things.
Zazu
January 9th, 2011, 01:31 PM
Meh, I respect you for taking the pledge but I see no point in it. Sex is fun and enjoyable. I like fun and enjoyable things. I'm simple minded like that you see.
Rutherford The Brave
January 9th, 2011, 01:50 PM
Sex is essential in life. Sex can make you happier, healthier and closer to someone. Let me ask you something. What if you dont find anyone who will marry you and you've never had sex? You be a shriveled up, shrewd person. Sex is sex, whether you have sex freely (In open spaces, or to suffice spiritual needs.) Or you have sex because you love someone dearly, you need it. Its an essential life function, and to do not do something that we were specifically made to do is almost going against god. Which kind of defeats the purpose of staying pure for god, because he wouldn't have created that ability if he didnt want you to use it.
Bougainvillea
January 9th, 2011, 02:07 PM
Not in this case. Uh oh. You're too new age to NOT have sex. We couldn't possibly listen to something our elders say. It could lead to them overthrowing our rebellion! D: Next thing you know, I can't listen to my iPod, and books will be everywhere. Let her stay "pure". If she doesn't want to have sex, then she doesn't want it.
Daniel_
January 9th, 2011, 03:27 PM
Uh oh. You're too new age to NOT have sex.
I'm a virgin, actually.
Rutherford The Brave
January 9th, 2011, 03:58 PM
I'm a virgin, actually.
By choice, or by lack of initiative?
ktmay96
January 9th, 2011, 03:59 PM
To Amber, I do have the same views as you, your not alone. I didn't take the "pledge", but I promised myself that I wouldn't have sex until marriage, not just because of religion, but I've heard too many stories form adults who said they wished they had waited. And I just want to wait. To me, sex is for two people who really love eachother. And if they really love eachother, then whats wrong with marriage? And as for your friends, they may just be messing around with you. Maybe their jealous and wish they could be as steadfast to their morals as you, or they just are joking. Don't worry about them. Its YOUR choice.
And for everyone telling her that taking the pledge is pointless, she didn't really ask for you opinion. She asked if there were people with the same views. She sure as hell knows there are people who don't believe in waiting, so why are you reminding her?
Sex is essential in life. Sex can make you happier, healthier and closer to someone. Let me ask you something. What if you dont find anyone who will marry you and you've never had sex? You be a shriveled up, shrewd person. Sex is sex, whether you have sex freely (In open spaces, or to suffice spiritual needs.) Or you have sex because you love someone dearly, you need it. Its an essential life function, and to do not do something that we were specifically made to do is almost going against god. Which kind of defeats the purpose of staying pure for god, because he wouldn't have created that ability if he didnt want you to use it.
Except for the fact that (for religious reasons at least) the point of sex is to have children, and only when your married. So no, staying pure forever isn't "going against God" because He created the ability for specific reasons and under specific conditions (children and marriage). And I'm pretty sure she can find someone who will marry her... She will find someone who as the same views as her. Plus, as I said earlier, if that person feels sex is for people who love eachother, then what wrong with marriage? And bam, their married. And I highly doubt that she will end up a "shriveled up, shrewd person" if she doesn't have sex. Which is unlikely unless she doesn't want a relationship at all.
Rutherford The Brave
January 9th, 2011, 04:07 PM
To Amber, I do have the same views as you, your not alone. I didn't take the "pledge", but I promised myself that I wouldn't have sex until marriage, not just because of religion, but I've heard too many stories form adults who said they wished they had waited. And I just want to wait. To me, sex is for two people who really love eachother. And if they really love eachother, then whats wrong with marriage? And as for your friends, they may just be messing around with you. Maybe their jealous and wish they could be as steadfast to their morals as you, or they just are joking. Don't worry about them. Its YOUR choice.
And for everyone telling her that taking the pledge is pointless, she didn't really ask for you opinion. She asked if there were people with the same views. She sure as hell knows there are people who don't believe in waiting, so why are you reminding her?
You can't have children without having sex, the nature of the act comes before
Except for the fact that (for religious reasons at least) the point of sex is to have children, and only when your married. So no, staying pure forever isn't "going against God" because He created the ability for specific reasons and under specific conditions (children and marriage). And I'm pretty sure she can find someone who will marry her... She will find someone who as the same views as her. Plus, as I said earlier, if that person feels sex is for people who love eachother, then what wrong with marriage? And bam, their married. And I highly doubt that she will end up a "shriveled up, shrewd person" if she doesn't have sex. Which is unlikely unless she doesn't want a relationship at all.
The natural point of having sex is to have children, saying that it was originally proposed by religion is incorrect.. Because Zoro Astrians believe in having sex as a means of being in touch with different gods. Juxtaposed to the christian ideals, which never correctly and coherently distinquish between having sex for pleasure or for child bearing. God gave us the ability to have sex, he didn't give us all the ability to reproduce which is evident by sterile people, Everyone has sex organs, whether they are transgender or not they all have the ability to have sex, thus eliminating that idea.
ktmay96
January 9th, 2011, 04:26 PM
The natural point of having sex is to have children, saying that it was originally proposed by religion is incorrect.. Because Zoro Astrians believe in having sex as a means of being in touch with different gods. Juxtaposed to the christian ideals, which never correctly and coherently distinquish between having sex for pleasure or for child bearing. God gave us the ability to have sex, he didn't give us all the ability to reproduce which is evident by sterile people, Everyone has sex organs, whether they are transgender or not they all have the ability to have sex, thus eliminating that idea.
Okay, I meant the idea of having sex only for children is usually stemmed from SOME religions. Now sometimes it comes from personal opinion. And other ideals in reference to sex come from other religions. But I'm talking about the ideal of sex is for children, which is a Christian ideal. The bible isn't always clear, but I'm pretty sure that sex is one topic it is mostly clear on. Based on the fact 1. they didn't have/mention birth control 2. everytime they had sex, what do you know, they had a kid and 3. every Christian church teaches "no sex until marriage", I'm pretty sure that the religion is leaning towards the purpose being children. But I am talking about the sex is for children ideal, since children usually are a result of marriage, and thats more connected to this thread's topic than the Zoro Astrian's ideals. And your point on how since God gave us genitals, then we are made to have sex is a valid point, but there's also the WHEN. God gave us the ability to have sex WHEN we are married (according to the Christian ideals at least. As was said before, there are other religious ideals). So yes, physically, we have the ability to have sex. But morally, our ideals are varying based on our beliefs. Yes, we can have sex, we were made with the ability to have sex, but morals come into play to answer the questions WHEN and WHY. And the poster's morals say after marriage.
Rutherford The Brave
January 9th, 2011, 04:35 PM
Okay, I meant the idea of having sex only for children is usually stemmed from SOME religions. Now sometimes it comes from personal opinion. And other ideals in reference to sex come from other religions. But I'm talking about the ideal of sex is for children, which is a Christian ideal. The bible isn't always clear, but I'm pretty sure that sex is one topic it is mostly clear on. Based on the fact 1. they didn't have/mention birth control 2. everytime they had sex, what do you know, they had a kid and 3. every Christian church teaches "no sex until marriage", I'm pretty sure that the religion is leaning towards the purpose being children. But I am talking about the sex is for children ideal, since children usually are a result of marriage, and thats more connected to this thread's topic than the Zoro Astrian's ideals. And your point on how since God gave us genitals, then we are made to have sex is a valid point, but there's also the WHEN. God gave us the ability to have sex WHEN we are married (according to the Christian ideals at least. As was said before, there are other religious ideals). So yes, physically, we have the ability to have sex. But morally, our ideals are varying based on our beliefs. Yes, we can have sex, we were made with the ability to have sex, but morals come into play to answer the questions WHEN and WHY. And the poster's morals say after marriage.
Im fairly certain having sex, doesn't go against any publically held belief. To say that sex goes agaisnt morals is one's own opinion or belief. To say that that I'm heretical in saying that morally we have sex for the point of having sex, is completly incorrect and hypocritcal. Since most people believe or have had pre maritial sex, the idea of having sex this way does not go against the moral standards or todays society. To say that, would be false. Its actually morally heretical, to say that premarital sex is not the way everyone should act. Plus to the effect of other religions, I'm fairly certain that half if not more having nothing on premaritial sex. Since the idea of Marriage is originally a christian tradition.
KylieEatWorld
January 9th, 2011, 10:13 PM
I haven't taken any pledges but I plan on not sleeping with anyone until I'm completely sure I love them and they love me back. I'm proud of you, Amber. You CAN do it. You don't need to sleep with anyone. If any guy loves you he can wait.
SuperSuraj
January 10th, 2011, 01:20 AM
I personally don't share these views with you because i feel if i care about someone enough i will probably do it anyway, safely of course but what happens with the person i love happens.
However, i commend you for making such a big decision, and good luck with it :)
Jenna.
January 11th, 2011, 09:20 PM
While I never took the pledge (because my attitude was, if I'm with someone long enough and it's a good relationship, we'll have sex & that's how it went for me and my boyfriend), I respect those who decide to take it. (:
My best friend actually did a couple years ago, and none of us in our group of friends made fun of her for it. It's a personal choice, why should someone be made fun of just for doing something that they personally believe in? It sounds like your friends are being pretty mean, and you should let them know that it upsets you. If they're true friends, they'll stop.
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