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ShyGuyInChicago
January 3rd, 2011, 05:19 PM
This question is more so directed towards those who are against killing and eating animals for ethical reasons, but anyone can answer.

I think animals should only be killed for good reasons such as self-defense and for food.

Amnesiac
January 3rd, 2011, 05:20 PM
I don't think hunting should be illegal, no, but I do think it's necessary for one to have a permit unless they can prove that the killing was necessary for their survival (read: homeless people).

Craig1995
January 3rd, 2011, 05:23 PM
Only if there farmed ( i only eat free range tho) for food or if they pose a threat ( self defence)

deadpie
January 3rd, 2011, 05:25 PM
Should it be illegal for animals to kill humans? Reverse the question around there.

It's a dog eat dog world and if we weren't slaughtering these poor animals, they would be roaming the streets right now. You'd have a bit harder time trying to get pass the traffic when a heard of cows comes by.

There wouldn't be enough area for all these animals if we just let them all live.

nick
January 3rd, 2011, 05:29 PM
Its natural for humans to eat meat. Killing just for sport revolts me, sorry, just how I am. I could never turn vegetarian, I love meat, but I dont see that it justifies keeping animals in cruel conditions. I hate factory farming. I will only eat free range poultry or pork. I'm not against raising animals for food and then killing them, but there's no need or place for making them live their whole life in unnatural and inhumane conditions.

deadpie
January 3rd, 2011, 05:32 PM
We breed many animals to kill them. If we stopped killing them, there wouldn't be a reason to let them breed. Just letting them do there own thing walking in circles? That would be stupid.

And if you let them breed without killing them, that's when things will get quite insane, like I mentioned in my previous post.

Really, hunting isn't much different then letting an animal live without breeding imo.

nick
January 3rd, 2011, 05:43 PM
We breed many animals to kill them. If we stopped killing them, there wouldn't be a reason to let them breed. Just letting them do there own thing walking in circles? That would be stupid.

And if you let them breed without killing them, that's when things will get quite insane, like I mentioned in my previous post.

Really, hunting isn't much different then letting an animal live without breeding imo.
I agree with most of this.

If we didnt breed animals for food then we would either let cattle, sheep and pigs fade into extinction or wipe them out so we could raise crops on the land. Although we think we are animal lovers, and I am no exception there, our race is not given to charity when push comes to shove.

My problem with hunting is with the whole idea that anyone would kill for fun, would get their kicks out of killing. That is something I just cant understand.

Peace God
January 3rd, 2011, 07:21 PM
No, hunting certainly shouldn't be illegal and I see nothing wrong morally with farming animals for food. However, I think there should always be limitations to prevent extinction and negatively affecting the ecosystem...even more.

ShaneK
January 3rd, 2011, 07:36 PM
I don't partcipate in the illusion that we need to eat meat. I find the abuse of animals we raise for food intolerable and can't bare to be near anyone eatin meat. Hunting is just another form of animal abuse, an animal hunted by someone as sport. If people had to kill their own food there would be way more vegatarians. People don't hunt for food just for fun on the whole.

What sort of person gets fun from killin a defenceless animal, a very lil person is the answer. The strong picking on the weak, they are basically bullies.

Yes hunting should be illegal

Amnesiac
January 3rd, 2011, 07:40 PM
We breed many animals to kill them. If we stopped killing them, there wouldn't be a reason to let them breed. Just letting them do there own thing walking in circles? That would be stupid.

And if you let them breed without killing them, that's when things will get quite insane, like I mentioned in my previous post.

This is 100% true. I'm sorry animal lovers, but there's such a thing as too many animals and the wrong animals in the wrong places. Consider this: did you know there are too many kangaroos in Australia?

Kangaroo numbers are increasing throughout Australia. They are now found in greater numbers than prior European settlement due to provision of pasture and additional water points. Since the extermination of its natural predator, the Tasmanian wolf, and because of its rapid reproductive abilities this animal has overpopulated.

Also, the cane toad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cane_toads_in_Australia).

Jess
January 3rd, 2011, 07:44 PM
I love animals but I also love meat. I don't really like hunting, but I could see why it's needed. however I don't think it should be illegal. also, hunting for fun...ugh.

ShaneK
January 3rd, 2011, 07:46 PM
You mean bullying is fun, not hunting. Hunting for a person with a gun is on the whole not that much of a challenge. The only thing that can give a person a challenge is probably hunting another person

deadpie
January 3rd, 2011, 07:55 PM
I don't partcipate in the illusion that we need to eat meat.

If we don't eat meat, there's no reason to kill the animal (other then diseases and such like that). If there's no reason to kill the animal, there's no reason to breed them. If we stop breeding them then their existence is walking around in circles in a farm. If we let them keep breeding, then they'll grow larger and start populating more. The more they populate, the harder it is for us to keep them in groups and such. Feeding those animals costs money. Eventually, their numbers would grow large enough to where they can't be fed and well, because we can't kill them anymore, they have nowhere else to go other then start filling the streets and etc.

We do what we do for a reason.

ShaneK
January 3rd, 2011, 07:59 PM
Well we need more co-existance with nature and that means a lot less people. Given time nature would find ways to keep former farm animal populations down through disease and predators.

Perseus
January 3rd, 2011, 09:08 PM
I don't partcipate in the illusion that we need to eat meat. I find the abuse of animals we raise for food intolerable and can't bare to be near anyone eatin meat. Hunting is just another form of animal abuse, an animal hunted by someone as sport. If people had to kill their own food there would be way more vegatarians. People don't hunt for food just for fun on the whole.


People down here in the South hunt for food. Yes, people hunt for sport, but most people who hunt do it for the food and the thrill of the chase. I've hunted before. It's nice and tranquil, to say the least.

Cloud
January 3rd, 2011, 09:10 PM
if they dont want to die they should learn to run faster
or develop armour
really just helping evolution

ShaneK
January 3rd, 2011, 09:13 PM
The thrill of huntin the defenceless, surely prey that was more of a challenge would give more of a thrill. I've been to south and north carolina to mention two places south i've been to, I can understand why you would find it so tranquil with the kinda of scenary you have down there.

Perseus
January 3rd, 2011, 09:16 PM
The thrill of huntin the defenceless, surely prey that was more of a challenge would give more of a thrill. I've been to south and north carolina to mention two places south i've been to, I can understand why you would find it so tranquil with the kinda of scenary you have down there.

Humans used to hunt and gather (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter-gatherer) before the agricultural revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic_Revolution#Agriculture_in_the_Fertile_Crescent). Why would it be wrong to survive? Through evolution, we are designed to eat meet. We are omnivores.

Magus
January 4th, 2011, 12:16 AM
That canine tooth is not vestigial, it just got smaller with the rest of the jaw. We are omnivores after all. Our stomach isn't meant for vegetables only. Plus, there are essential nutrients that are not found in vegetables and fruits.

Sage
January 4th, 2011, 01:18 AM
The best way to ensure any species' survival is to farm them. If anything, I think we should farm more animals, especially ones that are (or nearing) endangered status. Like lions! Think about it: Everybody wins. More lions are born, and I get my Simba Burger at McDonalds.

Magus
January 4th, 2011, 01:23 AM
Like lions! Think about it: Everybody wins. More lions are born, and I get my Simba Burger at McDonalds.
Lions diet are not fit for rearing. But yes indeed. You are right.
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Peace God
January 4th, 2011, 01:33 AM
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> Implying all of us vegetarians are animal rights activists.

Bluebird12
January 4th, 2011, 01:36 AM
I think it should only legal to kill animals for survival purposes. Killing recreationally should be a crime.

ShaneK
January 4th, 2011, 03:58 AM
A vegetarian or vegan diet can be healthy. As for evolution, yea we ate meat in the past, so what of it? I like some people believe in the sanctity of all life not just human life. Why do we need the thrill of killing animals recreationally today?

Fushigi
January 4th, 2011, 04:17 AM
i guess its part of the cycle (killing animals) and let me ask you... other animals kill other animals to eat right?? except for herbivores... so its not illegal ... lol if its illegal we should convict the lions for killing deers/zebras just for feeding purposes... so i guess eating other animals are part of the life cycle and everything in the world are planned by god thats why dont blame people who are fond of eating animal meats .... just my opinion :)

Perseus
January 4th, 2011, 07:08 AM
A vegetarian or vegan diet can be healthy. As for evolution, yea we ate meat in the past, so what of it? I like some people believe in the sanctity of all life not just human life. Why do we need the thrill of killing animals recreationally today?

Should be illegal for other animals to eat animals, then?

UnknownError
January 4th, 2011, 08:33 AM
I think hunting for sport should be illegal.
My cousin and uncle do it and it makes me feel sick.

However breeding for food shouldnn't be. Like people have already said, we'd end up with to many animals walking around uselessly.

ShaneK
January 4th, 2011, 08:40 AM
Now people are just being stupid. Nature is different, we set ourselves apart from nature by our actions and the way we live. Of cos animals eat animals thats apart of nature. I recommend you see some of nature in action, Africa is a fine place to go.

Fushigi
January 4th, 2011, 09:16 AM
Now people are just being stupid. Nature is different, we set ourselves apart from nature by our actions and the way we live. Of cos animals eat animals thats apart of nature. I recommend you see some of nature in action, Africa is a fine place to go.




well i guess eating animal meats are part of the nature u know why?? nature evolves our ancestors to hunt for food... because a plant/vegetable cant sustain what a human needed to live. and all of god's creation have their own uses and some of them are for food... well lets think it this way.... in the wild there is what we called "survival of the fittest" and lets think that we are part of that cycle and we need to kill them just to survive... i guess no one here havent tasted a meat right??? so lets just face the reality and the kind of meat we consume are not endangered ... well some kill endangered species... but not all :)

ShaneK
January 4th, 2011, 09:28 AM
I know more than most about survival, all done without meat in my diet. We do not have to be omnivores we can survive as herbivores. As for god creatin animals to eat, I don't thing were better than animals quite the opposite in fact. The only animal to kill its own and destroy it's own environment is ... our species.

The Dark Lord
January 4th, 2011, 09:56 AM
The alternative to killing and eating animals wouldn't work. The human population is overcrowded away and this is going to get worse, making it illegal to eat meat would only quicken our own decline.

ShaneK
January 4th, 2011, 10:07 AM
When I sai I survived see my blog My Past for what I'm referring to.

Jenna.
January 4th, 2011, 10:15 AM
Its natural for humans to eat meat. Killing just for sport revolts me, sorry, just how I am. I could never turn vegetarian, I love meat, but I dont see that it justifies keeping animals in cruel conditions. I hate factory farming. I will only eat free range poultry or pork. I'm not against raising animals for food and then killing them, but there's no need or place for making them live their whole life in unnatural and inhumane conditions.

This. I just don't think they should suffer when they're killed. (What they do to animals in slaughterhouses is absolutely disgusting and unforgivable.) I'm also against hunting for sport.

Azunite
January 4th, 2011, 11:01 AM
Animals are on Earth because God didn't wanted us to be hungry.

Perseus
January 4th, 2011, 04:04 PM
Now people are just being stupid. Nature is different, we set ourselves apart from nature by our actions and the way we live. Of cos animals eat animals thats apart of nature. I recommend you see some of nature in action, Africa is a fine place to go.

We are a part of nature. Humans are animals. Nothing makes us different for us to not eat meat. And to your other post about hunting being for bullies - Lions stalk their prey and kill them. Does that make them low and bullies?

huginnmuninn
January 4th, 2011, 05:42 PM
we have specific parts of our bodies designed for the processing of meat in our bodies so i'm pretty sure that its natural and healthy to eat meat. Killing animals for no reason is wrong

insanity
January 4th, 2011, 06:31 PM
It shouldnt be illegal.... but there should be more regulations to animal slaughter, to be honest this whole idea of eating or killing animals is confusing... I wouldnt kill an animal or eat one, but I can understand why people eat animals and I spose one day I might eat meat again. But killing an animal is reasonable if you have a good reason... I dont agree with hunting but for example we have chickens at home and if we get baby roosters they get disposed of... I am okay with that, cause it would be chaos if it didnt happen. umm.. i dunno if im making sense here but what im trying to say is that it shouldnt be illegal but animals should be killed less and treated more humanly in the food industry if they are to be killed.... lol im rambling on...

Bluesman
January 4th, 2011, 10:48 PM
Well... if we weren't able to the earth would be an overpopulated shit pile, and a society of protein-defficient humans as well. As a proud hunter, I feel that hunting, slaying, killing, what ever you choose to call it, animals, is a way of thinning the herd. It allows the rest of the animals to survive, plus I love my steaks :) As for those against hunting, but not meat in general. What difference does it make if an animal is killed with a rifle or a bolt gun?

insanity
January 5th, 2011, 01:05 AM
I kind of agree with you.... um lol up one I just said I dont agree with hunting, but rethinking that, hunting is better then the factory farmed animals because at least hunting is more natural and the animal has a chance at life before it dies...
But no the earth wouldnt be overpopulated ( I dont think) because if you wernt allowed to kill animals none of them would be breed for food so there would be less, as they would have to survive and live naturally.

Ali_Cat
January 5th, 2011, 01:43 AM
I`m a vegetarien.
Have been for 5yrs.

Should killing and eating animals be illegal?
No.

Killing for fun? of course.
Meaning, big game hunting (tigers,bears,etc)

I live in south Louisiana. Hunting here is huge, and while its not my cup of tea, I don`t have any problem with it as long as the animal was killed rather quickly, and the majority of it was used.

As another poster said, there are still alof of slaughter houses worldwide who continue to kill animals inhumanely (ie: hanging them by thier back legs and slitting thier throats while their still alive) not to mention the cramped and unhealthy conditions most animals at slaughter farms go through.

My whole family BBQ`s weekly, and none of my friends are vegan or vegetarien. Heck, I even make burgers for my family.
Its just something I`ve chosen for myself.

Will I eat meat ever again?
Probably. I don`t deny that humans SHOULD eat meat. We are omnivores.
I know that if I ever DO begin to eat meat, I`ll be paying out the ass for all the organic crap. Like buying whole cows from farms that raised them naturaly and killed them humanely.

But yeah, thats my 2cents.

TopGear
January 7th, 2011, 12:19 AM
I don't see why hunting should be illegal. To make this short and sweet, If you kill an animal such as a deer, then you should skin it and use it as food. Now to just hunt to kill I think is wrong. Also in alot of areas hunting is used to depopulation places where deer are 3:1 on the human population.

Question to everyone. Do you think fishing to keep should be illegal?

Sith Lord 13
January 7th, 2011, 06:35 AM
Not at all. I do think there needs to be greater transparency though when it comes to the condition of bred animals. Hopefully, that would lead to boycotting those raised in unsanitary or unacceptable conditions.

Continuum
January 7th, 2011, 07:01 AM
Animals are on Earth because God didn't wanted us to be hungry.

And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.”

Correct. Just don't eat the fruit.

I don't see why hunting should be illegal. To make this short and sweet, If you kill an animal such as a deer, then you should skin it and use it as food. Now to just hunt to kill I think is wrong. Also in alot of areas hunting is used to depopulation places where deer are 3:1 on the human population.

People enjoy killing things, just as the time when European settlers nearly destroyed the buffalo for thrill, eventually starving the native populace. People need to hunt just in accordance to their own needs, in a sustainable pace.

TopGear
January 7th, 2011, 11:13 PM
People need to hunt just in accordance to their own needs, in a sustainable pace.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, thats where I pointing towards. Only take what you need.