Should school uniforms be banned?

[Grid]

There has been much debate on whether or not school uniforms should be permanently banned from all public schools. In other words, school uniforms will never exist in public schools in America. This would prevent it from happening in the future, which is a good thing. I believe they should be made illegal, because there is no reason to have them and it's been proven that students perform better without them. What are your thoughts on school uniforms being outlawed?

[Fiction]

Why should the goverment decide? I don't like wearing a uniform but for them to be illegal? That's ridiculous.

[KylieEatWorld]

Why should the goverment decide? I don't like wearing a uniform but for them to be illegal? That's ridiculous.

This.

[deadpie]

because there is no reason to have them

They show honor and bring everyone down to the same level. I'm pretty sure more people would come together in schools if they dressed the same. Prejudice would be harder to force on each other. That's not saying they have cons too, but you have to be open minded and look for the pro's also.


and it's been proven that students perform better without them.

Proof please? And that's necessary an opinion, so it can't be proven.

[Korashk]

I chose the wrong option. I meant to choose yes.

Freedom > All

[Amnesiac]

There are cases where uniforms are necessary, and it's a pretty trivial issue to make a law about.

[Daniel_]

Although I despise them, no they shouldn't.

If you don't like wearing a uniform, go to a different school and shut up. Period.

[Korashk]

Although I despise them, no they shouldn't.

If you don't like wearing a uniform, go to a different school and shut up. Period.
"If you don't like it then leave" is one of the most retarded sentiments to ever be used as am argument by itself. The world would be more of a complete piece of shit place if people did this because nothing would ever change. You should feel like an idiot for utilizing such tautology.

What if people like MLK Jr., Gandhi, etc. just left because they didn't like things?

Also, one can't typically "go to a different school and shut up," it's not a feasible option.

[Daniel_]

"If you don't like it then leave" is one of the most retarded sentiments to ever be used as am argument by itself. The world would be more of a complete piece of shit place if people did this because nothing would ever change. You should feel like an idiot for utilizing such tautology.

What if people like MLK Jr., Gandhi, etc. just left because they didn't like things?

Also, one can't typically "go to a different school and shut up," it's not a feasible option.

MLK Jr, and Gandhi, both failed.

You can say what you want, but nothing will ever change that fact.

There are racial tensions everywhere, and peace? Please. Theres no such thing as peace on Earth as long as our arrogant species is present. We do nothing to this planet but destroy, and that is fact. Some of us may try to save it, but in the end, all of their attempts will be for not. It's useless.

Did you know that human beings are the only species of animal on this planet that kills others of it's kind? And for what, the color of their skin? Because some believe in their gods, and some choose to question them?

It's despicable. And to think, we call ourselves a powerful race. We are pathetic. Insects waiting to be squashed by our own means of stupidity.


"Also, one can't typically "go to a different school and shut up," it's not a feasible option."

Can I ask why not?

I'm sure other peoples opinions differ greatly, and there are those who have even come to LIKE school uniforms. So why should it NOT be an option for those who dislike them to go to a learning facility elsewhere, that does not force them apon their pupils? Why is that not a feasible option, because it sounds quite feasible to me.

In fact, it sounds great to me. That those who dislike uniforms wont be forced to wear them, and those who do can wear them freely. It sounds like a very feasible option.

It is clear here my friend, that the only idiot here, is you. But your not an idiot, you just see with tunnel vision.

You see that because you dislike uniforms, no one should wear them.

It's exactly the same thing, only flipped around. People like you, hypocrites, are so pathetic.

Then again, we are ALL hypocrites in one way or another.

[Korashk]

MLK Jr, and Gandhi, both failed.

You can say what you want, but nothing will ever change that fact.
BEcause black people are still legally treated as secondary citizens and India is still ruled by Britain...


We do nothing to this planet but destroy, and that is fact.
Okay then, you can think this as much as you want. Doesn't make it true.

Did you know that human beings are the only species of animal on this planet that kills others of it's kind?
No we aren't...all you have to do is watch a nature documentary to know this.

"Also, one can't typically "go to a different school and shut up," it's not a feasible option."

Can I ask why not?
Lack of resources.

It is clear here my friend, that the only idiot here, is you. But your not an idiot, you just see with tunnel vision.

You see that because you dislike uniforms, no one should wear them.
You should read what this topic is about. It's not about outlawing uniforms, it's about the government not being able to make you wear uniforms.

It's exactly the same thing, only flipped around. People like you, hypocrites, are so pathetic.

Then again, we are ALL hypocrites in one way or another.
Hah, take your emotions elsewhere. They make you weak.

[MoveAlong]

I'm divided. I don't see why it should be "illegal" or there should be a law about it.

I see how it can clear up the dress code, but my problem is it robs a person of expressing their individuality. I think that's important during adolescence - and, while some take it to extremes, I think teens should go through these phases to learn on their own. I don't think the chance to go through a phase should be muted.

[Daniel_]

Your response is not worth my time.

.. But i'll say this.

1. There will ALWAYS be racial tension. NOTHING will ever change that. It's a fools dream otherwise, and in that way, MLK has failed.

2. Watch the fucking discovery channel. You have no idea, not the slightest.

3. Aside from basic animal instinct (I.E - The act of female Praying Mantis' eating their mates after reproduction), humans are the only species of creature on this planet who kill each other to kill. It is fact, and whether or not you believe it, it is true. Look into it if it interests you so much.

4. Lack of resources? What the fuck does that have to do with choosing which school you go to? Ha, sorry, but that response was just plain arrogant.

5. I was not speaking of accord to the OP's first question/topic starter, It was directed toward your attitude of "all or none", in which case people should not have the option to choose their place of education based on their views of school uniforms.

6. I can assure you, my emotions are as far away from this conversation as my pathetic excuse of a body can keep it.

[Jamie]

2. Watch the fucking discovery channel. You have no idea, not the slightest.

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that we actually sourced the citations we're using. Must be a different forum.


3. Aside from basic animal instinct (I.E - The act of female Praying Mantis' eating their mates after reproduction), humans are the only species of creature on this planet who kill each other to kill. It is fact, and whether or not you believe it, it is true. Look into it if it interests you so much.

Nah, this is the right forum. Source?

4. Lack of resources? What the fuck does that have to do with choosing which school you go to? Ha, sorry, but that response was just plain arrogant.
And this response is pure ignorant. Lack of resources... maybe they can't afford the gas to send their kid to a school 10 miles out of town every day? Maybe the bus doesn't come to their street, and the walking distance is ridiculous? Maybe there's only one school in a 30 mile radius? Plenty of reasons why a lack of resources would deprive a student of having a choice of schools.


6. I can assure you, my emotions are as far away from this conversation as my pathetic excuse of a body can keep it.
Your apparent disdain for humanity is becoming a nuisance by this point.

[Korashk]

Your response is not worth my time.
Oooooh, we've got a tough guy here. I'm so honored that you've chosen to respond to me great one.

1. There will ALWAYS be racial tension. NOTHING will ever change that. It's a fools dream otherwise, and in that way, MLK has failed.
Oh no, the man was incapable of changing human nature, what a worthless failure.

2. Watch the fucking discovery channel. You have no idea, not the slightest.
So you've given a pseudo response because your original statement is blatantly false. Nice oh great one.

3. Aside from basic animal instinct (I.E - The act of female Praying Mantis' eating their mates after reproduction), humans are the only species of creature on this planet who kill each other to kill. It is fact, and whether or not you believe it, it is true. Look into it if it interests you so much.
I have, as a matter of fact. Dolphins.

4. Lack of resources? What the fuck does that have to do with choosing which school you go to? Ha, sorry, but that response was just plain arrogant.
To change schools one typically needs to move to a new school district or provide their own transportation to go to said school. This is not typically a feasible option. You can't just decide that you're going to go to a different school and go do it.

5. I was not speaking of accord to the OP's first question/topic starter, It was directed toward your attitude of "all or none", in which case people should not have the option to choose their place of education based on their views of school uniforms.
What is this? I don't even...

6. I can assure you, my emotions are as far away from this conversation as my pathetic excuse of a body can keep it.
Yes, you've remained calm and civil throughout the entire course of this discussion. Your words were vulcan-like.

[Grid]

I have, as a matter of fact. Dolphins.

Oh!!!! Owned with the dolphin argument.

[Jess]

um no I don't like school uniforms but they aren't illegal and if a school requires uniforms let it. why should it be illegal?

[Jenna.]

Why should the goverment decide? I don't like wearing a uniform but for them to be illegal? That's ridiculous.

This.

[Kiko]

I think the U.S. Department of Education has more important things to be "debating" about than banning school uniforms...

[Amnesiac]

I think the U.S. Department of Education has more important things to be "debating" about than banning school uniforms...

I can see the DOE debating it, for them it's an issue that would actually be important, but not Congress or the President.

[Kiko]

I can see the DOE debating it, for them it's an issue that would actually be important, but not Congress or the President.

I couldn't. They're all scurrying around trying to pass legislation to get more funding to throw into the sinkhole that is the American education system. /bitter

[Death]

School uniforms are supposed to represent the school. They are also supposed to be for discipline, something to help kids become mature adults. Therefore, school uniform has its purpose. Even if one did disapprove of it, why does that justify banning it? If everything which was disagreeable was banned, we would have little to nothing left which was still legal.

[Korashk]

School uniforms are supposed to represent the school. They are also supposed to be for discipline, something to help kids become mature adults. Therefore, school uniform has its purpose. Even if one did disapprove of it, why does that justify banning it? If everything which was disagreeable was banned, we would have little to nothing left which was still legal.
Uniforms in public schools is an unjust violation to my right of self-ownership. As are a lot of things about public schools.

[Death]

Uniforms in public schools is an unjust violation to my right of self-ownership. As are a lot of things about public schools.

Well, I understand where you're coming from. So if you think you should be able to wear what you like, do you think you should be able to go naked? I mean it's the same principle of victimless freedom, right?

[Fact]

Uniforms in public schools is an unjust violation to my right of self-ownership. As are a lot of things about public schools.

Well, I understand where you're coming from. So if you think you should be able to wear what you like, do you think you should be able to go naked? I mean it's the same principle of victimless freedom, right?

Point pretty much proven?

[Korashk]

Well, I understand where you're coming from. So if you think you should be able to wear what you like, do you think you should be able to go naked? I mean it's the same principle of victimless freedom, right?
Yes, exactly.

[Azunite]

I seriously can't believe you people's problem. This is the zillionth thread about school uniforms in VT. And only in, like 2 weeks! Damn the man who opened the subject about the school uniforms ! (kidding).

No and no school uniforms should not be banned. There aren't any objective reasons why it should be banned, while there are so many reasons why uniforms are both needed and why they are useful.

I won't even mention here how people humiliated other people when they were showing fake reasons why uniforms should be banned.

Just because small communities riot amongs themselves and protest school uniforms won't change anything. School uniforms will always be there and whatever you people do, every school will wear uniforms in the future.

Do you think pupils will be concentrated on their lessons while looking at their friend's heavy metal amulets or someone else's piercings? Or any other fancy stuff?

Do you think teachers won't say anthing when girls will wear super-mini skirts or boys will get their hair as long as Rapunzel?

For the last time: no, no and no. School uniforms should not be banned.

And I beg you people to stop talking about uniforms, it is enough.

[The Dark Lord]

If you don't like wearing a uniform, go to a different school and shut up. Period.

Presumably that was the attitude of Martin Lurthur King, Gandhi, Obama and billions of other people who didn't like something

MLK Jr, and Gandhi, both failed

You can say what you want, but nothing will ever change that fact..

India is now free from British rule and black people are equal, retard.


Did you know that human beings are the only species of animal on this planet that kills others of it's kind? And for what, the color of their skin? Because some believe in their gods, and some choose to question them?.

As you said if you don't like the human race, then I suggest suicide, make a statement

It's despicable. And to think, we call ourselves a powerful race. We are pathetic. Insects waiting to be squashed by our own means of stupidity..


We are a powerful race, you are pathetic


It is clear here my friend, that the only idiot here, is you. But your not an idiot, you just see with tunnel vision. .


I appreciate your internet sarcasm


It's exactly the same thing, only flipped around. People like you, hypocrites, are so pathetic..


People who call others hypocrites tend to be hypocrites themselves, seeing as everyone is a hypocrite.

Then again, we are ALL hypocrites in one way or another.[/QUOTE]

Your response is not worth my time..

Presumably because he completely owned you