Religion

[ausy94]

My question is Is being Gay or bi wrong in the Christian Religion? Im kind of stuck on who I am. If so could you please have some proof like direct quotes from the Bible Please. Thank you.

[Kiko]

I've been going to Catholic schools for twelve years so I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. If I don't someone please correct me.

The Church does not condone homosexuality itself, but it does not approve of two people of the same gender having intercourse. This is because the Church believes that having sex outside of marriage is wrong, and that marriage is strictly between a man and a woman.

This page has a more in-depth assessment with Bible passages:
http://bible.org/article/homosexuality-christian-perspective

[Mattasaur94]

Kikko, it's important to understand that when adressing Christianity as a whole, not to single it to the Catholic-Based Organisation. (:
But I also go to a Catholic school; it keeps life fun.

Homosexuality is directly shunned in the bible, the Old Testiment, to be exact.
18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
-Leviticus, Chapter 18.

It states that to lay with someone of the same sex is to be an "abomination unto god"... it doesn't say that you won't make it to the assumed heavenly afterlife, but... it may pose some difficulty, as with all of the bible, it's a matter of interpretation and perspective.
To clarify some things more-so...
Not to spark any arguments, but the Bible is a collaboration of multiple writings and is an interpetation of "God's" word, will and testiment at the set time, this doesn't make in void or make in exceptionally important, it's a matter of perspective.
It comes down to a definition of faith and belief, how much of the Bible, as a Christian, do you follow?

To my understanding, the Bible was directly applicable to the times and social standards that were present. I'm not one to claim what "God" says though, seeing as it's not even my religion. ;)

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Now, the more pressing topic, should the issue of faith and religion dictate who you are?
When you say...
Im kind of stuck on who I am.
Are you referring to the claim that you are stuck on who you are, in fear of eternal damnation or something of a similar form? Or...?
Kind of need a slight elaboration on how it would change who you are.
Some people believe that people are born how they are and nothing can change that; predestination.


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EDIT:
Here are some more quotes:

20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
-Leviticus, Chapter 20
....
14:24 And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.
1 Kings, Chapter 14 - Tells that Sodomites are what Homosexuals were referred to in the Bible, continues on to provide understanding to...
15:11 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father.
15:12 And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.
-1 Kings, Chapter 15 - States that Homosexuals should be shunned and cast out of the Christian Society; thus as the Catholic Church and many other Christian Groups have done.
....
1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet ...
1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death...
-Romans, Chapter 1
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7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
-Jude, Chapter 1 - 'going after strange flesh' to most interpretations is in reference to homosexuality, this is implied by the reference to Sodom, where the Sodomites come from...
This implies further towards the end of the Bible that those whom seek to "lay with a man, or likewise with a woman" aka: (homosexuals) are condemned to 'Hell'
....
Then again, in Revelations, it writes;
22:15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
-Revelations, Chapter 22 - dogs MAY refer to sodomites / homosexuals, according to my Studies of Religion(Advanced) teacher it does, at least; it also says 'the sexually immoral'... -shrug- According to the bible homosexuality is immoral.
Where it says, "Outside" it's in reference to those outside 'Heaven'

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Hope that provides the answers you wanted, feel free to ask more.
As I said, this isn't my religion, but I like learning and knowing as much as I can about all religions, so if anyone wants to provide a different explanation, please, feel free to discuss it with me. :3

[Kelsey123]

you are who you are. sexuality does not define a person.

[smitty35]

if you still are having trouble, maby you can talk to a local pastor or minister? they will help you out for sure. like kelsy123 said: you are who you are. go with your heart.

[wiip]

Kikko, it's important to understand that when adressing Christianity as a whole, not to single it to the Catholic-Based Organisation. (:
But I also go to a Catholic school; it keeps life fun.

Homosexuality is directly shunned in the bible, the Old Testiment, to be exact.

-Leviticus, Chapter 18.

It states that to lay with someone of the same sex is to be an "abomination unto god"... it doesn't say that you won't make it to the assumed heavenly afterlife, but... it may pose some difficulty, as with all of the bible, it's a matter of interpretation and perspective.
To clarify some things more-so...
Not to spark any arguments, but the Bible is a collaboration of multiple writings and is an interpetation of "God's" word, will and testiment at the set time, this doesn't make in void or make in exceptionally important, it's a matter of perspective.
It comes down to a definition of faith and belief, how much of the Bible, as a Christian, do you follow?

To my understanding, the Bible was directly applicable to the times and social standards that were present. I'm not one to claim what "God" says though, seeing as it's not even my religion. ;)

-
Now, the more pressing topic, should the issue of faith and religion dictate who you are?
When you say...

Are you referring to the claim that you are stuck on who you are, in fear of eternal damnation or something of a similar form? Or...?
Kind of need a slight elaboration on how it would change who you are.
Some people believe that people are born how they are and nothing can change that; predestination.


_____
EDIT:
Here are some more quotes:


-Leviticus, Chapter 20
....

1 Kings, Chapter 14 - Tells that Sodomites are what Homosexuals were referred to in the Bible, continues on to provide understanding to...

-1 Kings, Chapter 15 - States that Homosexuals should be shunned and cast out of the Christian Society; thus as the Catholic Church and many other Christian Groups have done.
....

-Romans, Chapter 1
....

-Jude, Chapter 1 - 'going after strange flesh' to most interpretations is in reference to homosexuality, this is implied by the reference to Sodom, where the Sodomites come from...
This implies further towards the end of the Bible that those whom seek to "lay with a man, or likewise with a woman" aka: (homosexuals) are condemned to 'Hell'
....
Then again, in Revelations, it writes;

-Revelations, Chapter 22 - dogs MAY refer to sodomites / homosexuals, according to my Studies of Religion(Advanced) teacher it does, at least; it also says 'the sexually immoral'... -shrug- According to the bible homosexuality is immoral.
Where it says, "Outside" it's in reference to those outside 'Heaven'

---
Hope that provides the answers you wanted, feel free to ask more.
As I said, this isn't my religion, but I like learning and knowing as much as I can about all religions, so if anyone wants to provide a different explanation, please, feel free to discuss it with me. :3

You make a lot of good points, but I really can't help but point out a few problems:

sorry, I can remember where, but somewhere in the New testament, the book of Leviticus is specifically written off as being out of date, the rules having been updated by Jesus; 'love your neighbour as you love yourself'.

Big problem: Sodomites ARE NOT gay people, or those who practised homosexual behaviour. Sodomites are compared to the lustful, selfish, greedy people of Sodom. The original Sodomites were known for raping their enemies, which has earned them a homosexual reputation, but that is a practice upkept by any barbaric people, be they gay or not, until about the 20th century. It was a sign of supremacy, not desire.

And remember; the entire Bible, every word, was written before the nineteenth century. And an important bit of information that people take for granted nowadays is that gays aren't straight. To clarify; homosexuals are not just heterosexuals who decide to have intercourse with one of the same sex; they are entirely different. It is widely believed, now, that this is due to a difference of chemicals in the brain (just as a large number of personality differences are). But we only realised that homosexuals are different after some research done roughly 150 years ago. Long before anyone who wrote the Bible could know so. So they went with the popular opinion of the age, as you do, and banned it.

In many of the old testament books, a big problem is that the laws of the land were confused with the laws of God. We no longer stone to death she who sleeps with a man outwith wedlock, now do we?

To the OP: I hope this helps to clear a lot of fears from your brow, and remember; Jesus loves you, however you are. God made you, just the way you are. And the Holy Spirit will guide you, whatever way you are. Good night and God bless!

[Fourth Dimension]

well im agnostic which if you dont know means i neither confirm nor deny so i believe but i dont (i mainly just want physical proof) and my view when it comes to religion and im gunna quote lady gaga here "im beautiful in my way cuz god makes no mistakes" which to elaborate a little more i feel i was born the way i am and god made me the way i am the bible may say its wrong but god created us all and we cant help who we are so i feel that as long is i keep him in my heart and im a good faithful person i will still be saved and that if the way we are is a sin it will be forgiven like the rest of our sins thats my views anyway

[Craig1995]

I'm very Christian but also gay. But emm I got told that god hates the sin not the sinner I don't see if being gay is a sin how is it any worse than any other sin.

[Dunce]

Well, christianity is not in favour of homosexuality, as you see from quotes and stuff above. But please don't let religion dictate who you are. No matter what the bible says, if there is a god he shouldn't be judging us on our sexuality. So don't worry too much :O