The New Nation

[*Dissident*]

This past election day has changed the state of our nation. What was once republican control, is now democrat. Rumsfeld has resigned, and Gates is taking over. What do you guys think about this? problems, concerns, criticism, praise, joy, etc?

[Phantom]

LOL new nation. Hardly. The dems barely outnumber everybody else anyway. Unless they all toe the party like, like mindless idiots it won't really matter.
Its not like politicians did anything anyway.
I don't think much will change, well we will probably be alot less safe. Getting rid of the bill allowing us to monitor terrorist calls. Pulling out of Iraq letting it become the new brutal dictatorship theocracy/terror nest of the world.
Other than that probably just higher taxes and more dumb programs.

[*Dissident*]

wow, exactly what i was thinking. /endsarcasm

[Phantom]

wow, exactly what i was thinking. /endsarcasmPlease elaborate on that :rolleyes:
What I say is true. Unless the dems suddenly go back on everything they say they will do.

[*Dissident*]

they will devise intellgent ways to EXIT iraq, HELP the environment, AID the poor, and more

[Melchi0r]

I may sound stupid, but Gates as in Bill Gates or another Gates fellow?

[Phantom]

Another guy

[0=]

Oh yes, lowering taxes helps our schools, hospitals, homeless, environment, national parks, and debt, doesn't it? Really Phantom, you must realize that lower taxes=more problems=worse economy.

[Phantom]

Oh yes, lowering taxes helps our schools, hospitals, homeless, environment, national parks, and debt, doesn't it? Really Phantom, you must realize that lower taxes=more problems=worse economy.Lower taxes mean the people have more money. Businesses have more money to spend on hiring people. People have more money to buy things for themselves. People can spend money to best benefit themselves much more than the government can.

[*Dissident*]

lowering taxes does not give people more money. Since tax is based on percintage, the poor cant take the blows they recieve, while the rich keep on being rich. Lowering taxes by 1% here and 1% there doesnt really help anyone if they cant spell in 3rd grade. Or cant afford medical care anyway. Or have to get repiped becuase of lousy water.

[Phantom]

Everybody pays taxes.
Even the poor. Raising taxes 1% isn't going to help education either.
I prefer to keep my money, I know what will best benifit me more than the government can ever hope.
O yes poor poor rich rich, how about this, we take EVERYONES money and divide it completly equaly, how long do you think it would take untill some people had more money than others?
Here read this about taxes.
The Libertarian Party: Working to slash your taxes!



The Libertarian Party is working every day to cut your taxes. By contrast, professional politicians from the other parties just want more of your money, and are busy increasing the size of government.

In the last few decades, the federal government has exploded in size. No area of your life or business is free from the meddling of politicians -- especially your wallet.

It doesn't have to be that way. With less government and lower taxes, you could keep more of what you earn. It would be easier to start new businesses, build new homes, and fuel stronger economic growth.

Just Defend Our Rights
Libertarians believe that if government's role were limited to protecting our lives, rights and property, then America would prosper and thrive as never before. Then the federal government could concentrate on protecting our Constitutional rights and defending us from foreign attack. A federal government that did only those two things, could do them better and at a small fraction of the cost.

How Can We Cut Taxes?
Instead of tending to the basics, government has grown into a bloated conglomerate of political services that gets larger every year -- with no end in sight.

For example, politicians spend millions of dollars to urge people not to smoke -- while spending more millions to subsidize tobacco farmers. They send billions overseas for foreign aid -- while the federal deficit swells. They spend millions to subsidize public art -- while working families struggle to pay their taxes.

Politicians also run trains, bail out savings and loans, construct houses, sell insurance, print books, and build basketball courts -- you name it! But the fact is, every service supplied by the government can be provided better and cheaper by private business.

Privatize And Cut Taxes
All over the world, governments are busy selling airlines, power plants, housing, and factories to private owners. Where inefficient government bureaucrats lost money and squandered tax dollars, hard-working private owners now make profits and create new jobs. Why can't we do the same thing in America?

Defend America: Cut Taxes
Military expenses are over $250 billion a year! A large percentage of this is spent overseas to defend wealthy countries like Germany and Japan -- who then wallop us in international trade. Let's take them off military welfare. We can defend America better and save at least $100 billion a year in taxes.

Stop Bailing Out Industry
No one has the right to cover his losses at taxpayer expense -- and yet wealthy corporations demand exactly that. The federal government has bailed out railroads, banks, and other corporations with your tax dollars. This must stop!

Replace Welfare: Cut Taxes
The bulk of your welfare tax dollars goes to pay the handsome salaries of well-educated welfare workers. The poor get little from government welfare except meager handouts and a cycle of despair. Let's get government out of the charity business. Private charities and groups do a better and more efficient job of helping the truly needy get back on their feet.

Why An Income Tax?
Before 1913, federal income taxes were rare and short-lived. America became the most prosperous nation on earth. The U.S. Government did not try to police the world or play "nanny" to everyone from cradle to grave. People took responsibility for themselves, their families, and their communities. That is how the founders of America thought it should be. And it worked. It can again!

It's Time For Action
Republican and Democratic politicians have refused to reduce the size or cost of government. So we need your help to build a powerful new political party to get the job done -- the Libertarian Party! If you agree, please use the attached form to join the Libertarian Party or to request more information.

[Latino_Teen]

http://www.zeppscommentaries.com/Graphic_remarks/noted%20Republican%20Presidents.jpg

a picture says a thousand words...

I know i may sound liek the biggest retart in all the world rite know. But wats the difference between republican and Democrat?? like their main view or the governmet and the people?

[0=]

Go do a search on Wikipedia.

[*Dissident*]

Abraham lincoln wasnt a republican.

[Phantom]

http://www.zeppscommentaries.com/Graphic_remarks/noted%20Republican%20Presidents.jpg

a picture says a thousand words...

I know i may sound liek the biggest retart in all the world rite know. But wats the difference between republican and Democrat?? like their main view or the governmet and the people?Please don't ever come to this debate forum again. You can't even spell much less be able to know what kind of economic system would best benefit the US.

[*Dissident*]

Phantom, he was just trying to be funny...

[Underage_Thinker]

Please don't ever come to this debate forum again. You can't even spell much less be able to know what kind of economic system would best benefit the US.
And you do from your many many years of exsperence.
Let me ask you a question. How many jobs have you had? For how many years did you studie econmics at college? Have you ever paid income tax? If you haven't then get off your high horse and tell us what you think instead of just copying and pasting off a website, and if that website is your only sorce of info on this matter i suggest you stop posting, because a political parties's website is not a objective source.

[Phantom]

I don't think he was trying to be funny.
Now the first half was written solely from my personal thoughts.
If you would have read the whole thing you would see at the extras and info section I said I am going to give some info that goes along with my views well.