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SLiV
December 8th, 2010, 06:25 PM
I am not really desperate, but I like to talk about it and I would love some advice.

I am 17, male, gay and I have a crush on a guy. The problems lie in the fact when and how I should tell him that.

I am not openly gay, that is to say: I wouldn't lie about it, but I do not tell people at random. If someone asked me, I'd probably bluntly say yes.

I am not at all a socialiser. I'm shy and "weird". I don't have that many friends, nor do I spend a lot of time with them. Although this is somewhat to my dissatisfaction, I am perfectly fine with it. I feel no discomfort in being alone. This does not mean however that I don't like company; I enjoy playing Black Ops or Age of Empires (1) with friends, for instance.

The guy I have a crush on, is a guy from school. This is the first year I share classes with him, and sadly also the last, as we'll go off to university next year. That is why I do not know a lot about him. We are friends, I guess, as we work together and talk in class a lot.

He does theater, likes geography, is somewhat lazy, but overall intelligent (considering we both do the highest form of dutch high school). I wouldn't say he is completely stunning (and mind you, nor am I), but he is cute. He's nice, talkative and, well I could name a plethora of synonyms for cute, but I'll spare you.

But here it get's interesting:

I do not know if he's gay, but I do suspect he might be. I heard him say (though not to me) that he has never had a girlfriend. And when he was (twice!) "accused" (by lack of a better word) of being gay, he simply laughed it off, and ignored it.

I am not saying that everyone who is like this must be gay, but hot damn do I hope he is. I just hope I'm not wanting him to be gay, and therefore misinterpreting all signs of being nice as signs of being gay.

And yes, the following might sound a bit too much like a business plan. I know I should just have a chat with him when we're comfie and than simply tell him or whatnot, but that is not who I am. I am a rationalist, I guess.

I am pretty sure I want to tell him, 'cause I cannot stand this waiting, doing nothing. If I could, I'd probably would be here typing this.

So there are three things I could/should do:

1. find out if he actually is gay
2. tell him I am gay
3. tell him I have a crush on him

Although number 2 might be the most sensible first step, I think I will not tell him as such. First and foremost, it would be an incredible bold move to make, as I'd have to tell him out of the blue. And quite frankly, being bold is not my strongest point. On top of that, if he isn't gay, what would either of us gain from him knowing I am?

So my plan is as follows. I'll ask him if he has ever had a girlfriend before. Admittingly, that is still quite bold, but I recon it is the most "casual" option I have. If he has, or seems reluctant to talk about it, I'll simply switch topics. If he hasn't, I'll... well, I haven't thought that far ahaid, and I guess I might just as well not.

Now another issue is when to tell him.

I will definitely not tell him this week or next week, as we are doing a presentation for school, and the last thing I want, is for him to freak out. If he does, then I don't want it to affect my (or his) school performances. Besides, I am in no hurry. Or I might be.

A totally different option would be not to tell him until the last weeks of school. To upside would be that if he'd freak out, I'd never see him again. The downside, which I find rather outweighing the upside, is that if he does love me back, I would never see him again. Or at least, I would have spent all these days in agony, not knowing this and that.

The most sensible thing would probably be to get to know him better first. To familiarise, to observe, to become closer friends and to gain his trust.

But again, I don't feel like waiting; which is quite unlike me. I, mister rationalist, feel that the best thing to do, is to be bold. I guess it's love or something, as really, I am no expert at love.

What do you think?

Fact
December 8th, 2010, 06:33 PM
I think that you, Mr. Rationalist, need to calm down on your game plan :P

Your theory on being bold may be a little imposing on him. If you want to find out information, ease him into it a bit rather than firing questions at him. You don't want to scare him with your interrogation, you want to make him feel comfortable.

I think that your planned order of events is about right, but allow time for things to settle and to mull things over. You might for example find out more information between step one and step two that could change things. Or even between step two and step three. By making a plan, you're almost setting yourself up to feel disappointed if thing's don't follow your plan, though it's good to have lose structure to what you're going to do.

Remember to keep your sensitivity about this subject - he could be gay but not openly, so try to not be too abrasive (I'm sure you won't be anyway).

Good luck! Hope my advice helped.

Aless1225
December 8th, 2010, 06:43 PM
I have ur same problem but it's hard to tell that's person

SLiV
December 8th, 2010, 06:54 PM
Thanks for the advice, Fact.

Yeah, I know I should be planning, and I'm not really. All I was saying was that I thought it'd be better to ask a question (as I am sincerely interested), than to bluntly make a statement (that he couldn't care less about).

I was not going to fire a barrage of questions at him, I'm just not sure how to set the mood. I will just think one step ahaid, leaving things a bit spontanious and, as you said, not too persistent.

I realised that he might not know things himself, and that me asking all these puny questions wouldn't be quite helpful.

So you're basically saying (and you'd probably be right) that I should wait a bit, and gain his trust annex friendship?

nick
December 8th, 2010, 06:56 PM
Why not start with something more neutral, ask him if he'd like to go for a coffee in Starbucks or something, just get chatting. Dont plan too much ahead, things dont work according to plans, just one step at a time.

Fact
December 8th, 2010, 06:56 PM
All I was saying was that I thought it'd be better to ask a question (as I am sincerely interested), than to bluntly make a statement (that he couldn't care less about).

So you're basically saying (and you'd probably be right) that I should wait a bit, and gain his trust annex friendship?

↑ yes, pretty much.

Friendship building is key to your relationship and by earning his trust and happiness he's more likely to be more comfortable with you and make you feel comfortable when trying to get closer to him.

nick
December 8th, 2010, 06:58 PM
↑ yes, pretty much.

Friendship building is key to your relationship and by earning his trust and happiness he's more likely to be more comfortable with you and make you feel comfortable when trying to get closer to him.
Yes, that's sort of what I was trying to suggest too. Its no different with straight relationships in that sense, start with something neutral, get chatting, get to know the person, see how it goes from there.

Fact
December 8th, 2010, 07:10 PM
Yes, that's sort of what I was trying to suggest too. Its no different with straight relationships in that sense, start with something neutral, get chatting, get to know the person, see how it goes from there.

Indeed Nick.

So basically, you need to act 'normal' (friendly) rather than pining for him and get to know him that way. He'll then warm to you as a person and not as his creepy stalker :P

SLiV
December 9th, 2010, 01:49 PM
That is very true. I want to know him better anyway, so I guess it makes perfect sense to do it in that order.

Much obliged.

Brittany123
December 9th, 2010, 08:28 PM
What you do is you get to know him okay simple enough right. the sometime bring up in the conversation CAUSUALY what he thinks of homosexuality. If he is gay he may just say it or hint to it. At least you will no if he is a complete freakazoid and will go nuts if you tell. him. If he hints to it you may want to tell him you are or you may not but other than that go with the flow.

Sosaku
December 12th, 2010, 04:12 PM
What you do is you get to know him okay simple enough right. the sometime bring up in the conversation CAUSUALY what he thinks of homosexuality. If he is gay he may just say it or hint to it. At least you will no if he is a complete freakazoid and will go nuts if you tell. him. If he hints to it you may want to tell him you are or you may not but other than that go with the flow.

I agree with this, i'm pretty open at school, so most people know, but at my school we have a Zero Tolerance for harrassment, and bullying, so it's fine, but my parents don't know. I dont just tell random people that i'm gay, but i get to know them, and if i trust them, then i tell them. and this is sorta how i tell them, i ask for their views on homosexuality, usually the conservatives freak out, and i appologize for asking and simply walk away. But, you will find someone who thinks that homosexuality is a gift. My roommate for example is Christian, he was raised to believe homosexuality is a sin, but he accepts me for who i am. Mostly because i accept him, and he is confused about his sexuality...but anyway, if you ever get the chance to talk to him alone (the starbucks idea is a good one, although, i dont like coffee lol) then ask him about homosexuality in general, if he is uncomfortable, just be his friend, but dont plan ahead. take it naturally as though you were just being a really good friend. :)