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Silence
December 2nd, 2010, 03:51 PM
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/russia2018/news/newsid=1344698/index.html


I don't mind Russia as long as they have the necessary stadiums and equipment for the tournament, but I have a problem with Qatar.

The temperature there reaches an average of 115 in the summer. Now, remember, that's an average.

Why are we putting people to that condition who are running for at least an hour?

Azunite
December 2nd, 2010, 03:55 PM
Maybe for the first time they wont do it in summer

Silence
December 2nd, 2010, 03:56 PM
Maybe for the first time they wont do it in summer

It's always been held in the summer, since it began in 1930. It isn't changing anytime soon.

SimplyTom
December 2nd, 2010, 04:00 PM
can't believe england didn't win we had such a good bid

Silence
December 2nd, 2010, 04:00 PM
can't believe england didn't win we had such a good bid

Japan's was pretty good too, the holographic stuff.

SimplyTom
December 2nd, 2010, 04:04 PM
yeh but they were bidding for 2022 we were bidding for 2018

Silence
December 2nd, 2010, 04:09 PM
Ah, ok.

Well, I guess FIFA wants to include many countries for the World Cup?

Qatar better have something to keep the players cool in 120 degree games

dead
December 3rd, 2010, 12:24 AM
Ah, ok.

Well, I guess FIFA wants to include many countries for the World Cup?

Qatar better have something to keep the players cool in 120 degree games
They will, it's incredibly expensive aswell.

karl
December 3rd, 2010, 10:34 AM
The head of the England campaign to host the 2018 World Cup today said there is no point in the country bidding for the tournament again until Fifa makes extensive changes to its voting process.

Andy Anson revealed his frustrations surrounding yesterday’s humiliating defeat to Russia as it emerged the winning team knew what Fifa's decision would be 24 hours before it was announced.
He said: 'I would say right now, don’t bother until you know that the process is going to change to allow bids like ours to win.'

England's £15million bid – spearheaded by David *Cameron, Prince William and David Beckham – didn’t even get past the first round.

It secured just two of the 22 votes by committee members of football’s world governing body Fifa in a secret ballot – one of which was cast by England’s own FA chairman


Was this the video that cost us? The very un-English presentation screened to FIFA delegates
Gosh, didn't we look global.
So multicultural, so diverse. And we didn't want to host the World Cup just for ourselves, of course. Oh no. You had only to look at the video presentation for England's bid to realise that.
Selfless, that's us. Doing it for the greater good of the world. You could see it in the faces the film featured from locations all around the planet - and, if you were quick, in a couple of backdrops of Blighty.


But where were the famous sights that thousands would have expected to enjoy when they flooded through our ports and airports in 2018? The smiling British Bobby... our legendary cuisine... a bearskinned guardsman or two


Then there was the soundtrack - hardly Pavarotti, and certainly not Elgar. Instead, it was provided by a Ramsbottom rock band called Elbow, chosen despite the obvious connotations that would always be risked when the panel gave the Elbow to our bid.
Someone remarked that the lead singer sounded as if he was yawning.
Perhaps it was just as well the film skipped lightly over some of our less celebrated national hallmarks though. Especially in a week when it took about eight hours to drive to Gatwick, when our Bobbies donned riot gear to deal with student protests, and when rival Birmingham football fans went on a violent rampage.
A clip from the part of the video depicting a Muslim country. Much of the video promoting England as 2018 World Cup host was filmed overseas

Two boys in the West Indies share their joy at collecting cards of their favourite players

The Three Falsettos - Beckham, Cameron and Prince William - dutifully made our case with eulogies about football forming the fabric of the nation, and the like. So surely the presentation video would have captured some of this? Well, not entirely.
It started with an excited juvenile opening the letter that contained his ticket to the England France game last month. The venue was Wembley. So far so good.

Cue shots of the stadium (and a couple of clips of Arsenal's Emirates stadium for good measure). Then we're off to somewhere else in the world (maybe the Third World) to watch some kids have a kickabout in the street.


Should England ever bid for the World Cup again?
Yes
23%
No 77%
Thank you for voting


This is more like it though. The young lad is waving an England flag as his dad takes him to the match. And isn't dad draped in a Union Flag? Actually, no. It's just a multi-coloured scarf around his neck.
Much of the remaining video focuses on a range of ethnically diverse figures celebrating our national game from afar.

A young man waves Liverpool colours from a rickshaw. African and Asian spectators are transfixed with suspense as crucial matches are played out on screens around the world. A Caribbean family dances with delight as a vital goal is scored.
Close-ups of the players further underline the multinational diversity of our favourite Premiership icons.
Quite what Adrian Chiles was doing in the middle of it all was anyone's guess, but you couldn't help feeling we were heading for trouble when he appeared, albeit for a nanosecond. (Wonder if they've ever heard of him in Russia?)
The final frames showed Rio Ferdinand, the England captain and multimillionaire celebrity, about to climb into an expensive, shiny car. At least that was true to life.
And then it was over. All our hopes had been encapsulated in a video lasting just short of three minutes. Pity it didn't do the trick.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1335107/WORLD-CUP-2018-Un-English-video-screened-FIFA-delegates.html#ixzz1745NCS1x

nick
December 3rd, 2010, 10:55 AM
Amid the wreckage and fall-out in Zurich on Thursday of another failed England World Cup bid, the most remarkable global story of the day was surely Fifa’s decision for the 2022 tournament.

It prompted president Sepp Blatter to enthusiastically declare that the World Cup would be going “to new lands” but, in selecting Qatar, Fifa have made arguably the most controversial – and risky - decision even in their history.

Some facts. At 1.6 million, the entire population of Qatar is around one fifth the size of London. During the summer months of June and July when the tournament will be held, the average daytime temperature is a sweltering 40°C. The Qatar national football team is currently ranked 113th in the world and has never played in a World cup. None of the stadiums are yet ready, while the city (Lusail) that will host the World Cup final is still being built.

Qatar is not so much starting from a blank canvas as a blank desert.

This uncertainty was enough for Fifa’s technical bid inspectors to grade Qatar “high” in overall operational risk. Yet at the end of a process when having existing infrastructure seemed like a disadvanatage, England were not the only delegation leaving Fifa House with some pointed observations. "I don't quite understand what factor is favorable," said Kuniya Daini, Japan's Football Association vice-chairman.

Jack Reilly, of the Australia Football Federation, had a theory. "The Qatar delegation have been pushing money around for a long period of time," he said.

With its vast gas and oil reserves, Qatar will surely be the wealthiest nation to have ever hosted a World Cup. And an extraordinary programme of spending will now commence.

Projected by the International Monetary Fund to have the world’s fastest-growing economy, Qatar plans to spend $100 billion on infrastructure projects between now and 2015. In that period, the country will construct a $25 billion rail network, an $11 billion airport, a $5.5 billion deep water seaport and a $1 billion crossing to link the new airport with projects in the northern part of Doha, the capital city. An additional $20 billion will also be spent on building new roads.

With such vast resources, words of reassurance could be provided by Qatar bid president Mohammed bin Hamad Al-Thani. “We won't let you down. You will be proud of us, proud of the Middle East,” he said.

One enormous difference for players and fans compared to any previous World Cup will be the issue of travel. Qatar is the smallest nation to stage the World Cup since Uruguay in 1930, with 10 out of its 12 stadiums located within a 30 kilometre radius. Indeed, once a new metro system is operational, venues will be no more than one hour apart, giving fans the chance to watch more than one match in a day.

The question of legacy will also be handled in an utterly unique way. Qatar have unveiled plans for modular stadiums that would be dismantled and taken to countries with poor football infrastructure. And the centre-piece of the World Cup will be the Lusail Stadium, a structure that will have a capacity of 86,000 and be surrounded by water. It will take four years to build and promises to be as visually breathtaking as Beijing’s iconic ‘Birds Nest’ Olympic Stadium.

All this and the vast spending on other futuristic solar-powered stadiums may sound alluring, but serious questions persist. The climate in the Middle East remains the dominant issue of concern, with Qatar adamant that they have the technology to counteract the problem.

Each stadium will be designed with an air-conditioning system that will apparently reduce the temperature to a still balmy 27°C. Yet the problem of the heat must also be tackled in respect of the training conditions for the players and the overall experience for supporters.

Doubts also linger over how a country the size of Qatar will be able to handle an influx of around 400,000 fans. Qatar currently has around 50,000 hotel rooms but is aiming to increase that number to 95,000.

For all the potential logistical problems, the decision certainly reflects the vast growth of football’s popularity in the Middle East; something the Premier League has done so much to fuel.

Thousands converged on the Corniche and other public places in Doha in a spontaneous outburst of joy following Blatter's declaration, and there is a wider sense that this could be a transformational moment for the region.

Zinedine Ziadane, the French footballer of Algerian origin, who acted as an ambassador for Qatar's bid, said it was a sign that "the Arab world is emerging". And there was a simple message from Qatar's Emir, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani. "Thank you for believing in change," he said.

It will undoubtedly be a World Cup like no other.

Source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/8176966/Qatars-hosting-of-the-2022-World-Cup-finals-is-Fifas-most-dangerous-move-yet.html)

salema
December 3rd, 2010, 12:51 PM
ithink is good choise cuz it's world cup and all the world have right to host it and ithink the facilites that Qtar has is very good and the bid file was woow

karl
December 5th, 2010, 06:55 AM
FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION General Secretary Alex Horne has urged a deflated England to rally and wreak revenge on 2018 World Cup hosts Russia by winning the tournament in Moscow.


Horne has promised a no-holds-barred review into what went badly wrong with England’s bid, and insists the country still has a potent weapon up its sleeve – a developing Three Lions side who can capture the glory in eight years time.

He admitted hurt and frustration over FIFA’s voting process which left the England bid team bewildered by their paltry two votes while Russia sailed to victory.

Horne said: “I am hugely underwhelmed by the process that produced the final outcome. The best response is to go over there and win it.”






Estimates range from £15million to £25m regarding what the failed bid has cost the FA



Read more: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/215584/Revenge-bid-by-FA-chiefRevenge-bid-by-FA-chief#ixzz17EmgcxuD