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Toothpick
November 24th, 2010, 06:45 PM
I was just wondering what LSD does to you and how it's bad for you.
What exactly is so bad about it. I haven't done it, I'm just curious what's so bad about it. :what:

sCa45
November 24th, 2010, 07:02 PM
I've heard it makes you feel like you're in euphoria, but I think all drugs are bad, so you shouldn't even consider doing any of them, okay? Okay..

Rutherford The Brave
November 24th, 2010, 07:16 PM
I've heard it makes you feel like you're in euphoria, but I think all drugs are bad, so you shouldn't even consider doing any of them, okay? Okay..

Yeah, yeah don't do drugs WAHOOO

On a more serious note. Acid, is one of the more powerful drugs. It has a physical trip, in which you make expierence a wide variety of symptoms, from just feeling wicked good, to being wicked tingly. A visual trip, not all the time, but colors will be brighter, you will see things and or feel things that might not in fact be there. However, and I really do mean this. A bad trip, is a REALLY bad trip. If you take far too much and you do not know your limits, you will without a doubt have a hard time and have nothing you can do other than drink a ton of milk of sit outside in the sun all day to stop tripping as vitamin D does that.

What it can do to you, I am uncertain about.

poindexter
November 26th, 2010, 04:57 AM
It is a hallucinogenic. Basically you go all crazy and don't know what is real and not and it makes all your senses go wild. Be in a very safe place when you take it. But I would recommend not taking it in the first place. You can have a bad react in the first time and be left with long effects.

wtblife
November 28th, 2010, 12:37 AM
sit outside in the sun all day to stop tripping as vitamin D does that.

I wouldn't recommend doing this, you could end up with some really bad burns without knowing it. A pretty much guaranteed thing I'd note bout a decent dose of acid or most other hallucinogens is the confusion of your senses. You often interpret pain or taste or w/e as something completely different or just don't recognize the feeling at all, like confusing hunger or a full bladder for feeling sick, also you may not even be able to figure out how to relieve your bladder. Sometimes little things like that can actually make you believe you're dying.

An acid trip can last anywhere between like 12 and 20 hours or so (going off the top of my head), sometimes the long duration can be overwhelming. Depending on the dose and whatnot, the visuals can range from just walls looking like they're breathing to stuck inside your head unable to see the real world. If you ever try it, DO NOT jump in head first on the dosing, you will regret it.

staying_alive
November 28th, 2010, 06:34 PM
I've heard it makes you feel like you're in euphoria, but I think all drugs are bad, so you shouldn't even consider doing any of them, okay? Okay..

Great advice. Just because you think drugs are bad, the rest of us should too, right? Your post from a 1941 Adolf Hitler perspective: "I've heard they have eight days of presents for Hanukah, but I think all Jews are bad, so you shouldn't even consider them human, okay? Okay..." Makes you look pretty ridiculous, doesn't it?

I was just wondering what LSD does to you and how it's bad for you.
What exactly is so bad about it. I haven't done it, I'm just curious what's so bad about it. :what:

I have not done LSD. It's one of the things I'm planning on trying this year as one of my friends has been encouraging me to for a while now. As far as I know you trip out quite a bit, seeing things, mixing senses (mentioned in an above post). I suggest you trip hard on weed before experiencing what a hallucinogen does. By this I mean smoke enough weed so that you can't tell what you're tasting from what you're hearing from what you're seeing from what you're feeling. This is what I did prior to taking shrooms and it gave me a decent perspective on what to expect.

Also, have someone sober around. For the love of something holy, I can't believe how many people do these drugs without a sober person. Drinking and smoking pot is usually fine without a sober person, but your first time on a more serious drug like LSD requires that you have someone who'll take care of you assuming you won't be able to. I don't want to scare you or anything, but if you have a panic attack and no one's there to help you, you could be in some serious health trouble. One way to solve this issue is to smoke some weed beforehand - someone suggested this to me before I did shrooms and it GREATLY helped. It relaxes you and makes it less likely you'll panic.

Good luck, and be safe.

EDIT: Disclaimer: I am in no way encouraging the use of any illegal substances. It is any person's own choice to engage in these activities, and it is their duty to know any laws against them and assume all responsibility for their actions.

wtblife
November 29th, 2010, 01:16 AM
but if you have a panic attack and no one's there to help you, you could be in some serious health trouble

Yeah, this happened to me on somewhere between 5-7 grams of shrooms and I got sat on and physically shutup by a friend to prevent me from moving or making noise or w/e. Don't trip somewhere that you have to hide it, it often goes badly. Fuck that night sucked and it had me unstable mentally for a good few months, plan your trip out.

One way to solve this issue is to smoke some weed beforehand - someone suggested this to me before I did shrooms and it GREATLY helped. It relaxes you and makes it less likely you'll panic.

For me personally, I agree with this, but the person should know how weed affects them before considering it. Not everyone finds it quite so calming and it could make things worse. Also I'm not quite sure how it'd work with acid tbh, it can be kinda speedy.

Peace God
December 2nd, 2010, 11:53 PM
You can have a bad react in the first time and be left with long effects.
...like?

Fiending_the_freedom
December 3rd, 2010, 02:32 AM
if you are planning on becoming a doctor, any type of aircraft pilot or any job that include heavy machinery then do not do acid (flashbacks rare, but real).

I'm not going to tell you to do it, or not to do it.
Just make sure you are with someone you love and trust (and not afraid to be embarrassed in front of) and I'd suggest taking it at home, or inside somewhere comfortable.

benderdundat
December 19th, 2010, 04:58 AM
The amount of small minded people on here scares me so I've come to help fix the problem that is the basic lack of intelligence form most of the posters

now acid/lsd is ONLY A MIDWAY DRUG on the chain of drugs its relatively low, the chain of drugs is based on a persons first time experiences of what they have tried before other drugs the chain goes:

Marijuana
Salvia(this is only a variable not many do salvia as its effects are immense depending on how you do it)
Mushrooms
Ecstasy
MDMA(depending on region)
Special K
LSD
Cocaine
PCP
Crack
Speed
2CB
Crystal Meth
DMT
2CI
Opium
Peyote
etc.

Each has its own variant of effect although alot are derived some the same places, eg: meth comes from speed mdma come from meth and e comes from mdma

LSD is a fairly weak hallucinogen compared to say DMT which is for lack of better words "Soul Essence" as it is found in every living thing it causes your dreams to form and your sub conscious to grow.

Any who back on topic........

LSD was invented by Albert Hoffman in the early 50's as a military experiment in the doses it was being given to people ( large amount injected directly into your blood stream) it caused insane effects which is what most of the world still believes to be true. Let me make this clear 98% OF DRUG INFORMATION IS FALSE FOR PROPER INFORMATION TALK TO SOME ONE WHO CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THERE OWN EXPERIENCES!

Now personally I found acid to be nothing more then a combination of mushrooms with some e kicks meaning it was nothing more then basic hallucinations swirls, color distortion, time and space distortion and other milder effects like mushrooms but with more of the go go go nature of ecstasy muscle twitches, change is body temperature, and the want to move.

You DO NOT SEE ANYTHING APPEAR OUT OF NO WHERE THERE WILL BE NO PINK ELEPHANTS,DINOSAURS, OR CREEPY CRAWLERS that is all a myth. Flashbacks are another great myth supposedly your supposed to be able to randomly zone out to another place and die if you have a flash back this is false similar to mushrooms flash backs its more of a floor breathing or a towel design swirling slightly, although it is heavily dependent on your state of mind if you come home exhausted to or drunk or high it might happen to where you can notice it, but to have it randomly is very rare and the odd time it happens you tend to enjoy it

For a good trip find a place with the following things music, movies, comfy stuff, a yard(optional) it is very easy to become frightened near the peak due to the fact you have all your emotions coming out if you stay calm you'll be fine hence the final thing which is a place where you feel safe. If you feel comfortable where you are your trip will be great the outdoors is also amazing probably my favorite place to be you'll see tree's bloom before your eyes, path ways between the stars form, the grass dance in the wind it jaw dropping at times

Now my wall of text is almost over

During the initial onset of the drug smoking marijuana will prolong its effects not sure about cigarettes i'll have to give that a try lol, mushrooms will cancel out the effect of acid , ecstasy on acid aka the hippy flip is VERY FUN although EXTREMELY SCARY IF YOUR NOT EXPERIENCED make sure you've done the drugs a few times before mixing and for the first time never go more then 1 and 1

Other then that I'll be starting my own thread soon where you can ask any question about any drug including caffiene, nicotine, and alcohol

Feel free to ask me anything else I am writing this high is if something is a little confusing let me know and i'll clarify lol

Socio
December 21st, 2010, 03:20 AM
The common use of speed is still meth, and MDMA is ecstasy.

wtblife
December 22nd, 2010, 10:36 AM
Each has its own variant of effect although alot are derived some the same places, eg: meth comes from speed mdma come from meth and e comes from mdma

Speed is just a name for amphetamines including meth so this is confusing... I think I know what you're trying to say, but meth generally isn't made through the same route as plain amphetamines so this isn't really true. MDMA is also made through a completely different process than meth, just cause it has methamphetamine in the name doesn't mean it's actually made from it. I still get what you were trying to say though, the chemicals do all actually have resemblances and adding a group to one makes another, but when being synthesized they generally aren't made from eachother.

Also E/Ecstasy = MDMA like Socio said.

You DO NOT SEE ANYTHING APPEAR OUT OF NO WHERE THERE WILL BE NO PINK ELEPHANTS,DINOSAURS, OR CREEPY CRAWLERS that is all a myth.

Try datura and then try and tell me that lol. Seriously though, don't do datura or dph or other delirients. But yeah, on things like acid or shrooms you generally don't see stuff out of nowhere, although I have had things form out of the sort of the colorful fractal patterns created on acid (the patterns are more just letters filling in everything). Watched flowers grow out of my carpet along with bugs breaking out of the surface, it was pretty neat cause they were all over and anytime I looked at my carpet it'd happen. Wasn't freaky or anything, I mean the hallucinations were made from the psychedelic colored letters that filled in everything.

Let me make this clear 98% OF DRUG INFORMATION IS FALSE FOR PROPER INFORMATION TALK TO SOME ONE WHO CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THERE OWN EXPERIENCES!

99% of all statistics are made up on the spot. I take the "information" people give me with a grain of salt. Hearing about how one person interpreted their experience doesn't really give you much to go off of. If you want reliable information, do real research and don't just listen to people or jump to conclusions on your own. Reading an article or two isn't research either, someone just wrote those articles and it could be bogus, use some logic and always make sure there's scientific facts to back it up.

Socio
December 23rd, 2010, 05:10 AM
Speed is just a name for amphetamines including meth so this is confusing... I think I know what you're trying to say, but meth generally isn't made through the same route as plain amphetamines so this isn't really true. MDMA is also made through a completely different process than meth, just cause it has methamphetamine in the name doesn't mean it's actually made from it. I still get what you were trying to say though, the chemicals do all actually have resemblances and adding a group to one makes another, but when being synthesized they generally aren't made from eachother.

Also E/Ecstasy = MDMA like Socio said.



Try datura and then try and tell me that lol. Seriously though, don't do datura or dph or other delirients. But yeah, on things like acid or shrooms you generally don't see stuff out of nowhere, although I have had things form out of the sort of the colorful fractal patterns created on acid (the patterns are more just letters filling in everything). Watched flowers grow out of my carpet along with bugs breaking out of the surface, it was pretty neat cause they were all over and anytime I looked at my carpet it'd happen. Wasn't freaky or anything, I mean the hallucinations were made from the psychedelic colored letters that filled in everything.



99% of all statistics are made up on the spot. I take the "information" people give me with a grain of salt. Hearing about how one person interpreted their experience doesn't really give you much to go off of. If you want reliable information, do real research and don't just listen to people or jump to conclusions on your own. Reading an article or two isn't research either, someone just wrote those articles and it could be bogus, use some logic and always make sure there's scientific facts to back it up.

Omg i may have found my long lost brother lol. I agree with you on many levels. I doubt 99% of stats on drugs are false though, sure it's a huge number but not 99%. But when i hear someone tell me information they think they know about drugs i always research it for hours, because face it a lot of people are ignorant when it comes to drugs and they think they know a lot. But so many kids talk like they know so much and it pisses me off, sure i don't know everything but i'm always learning, have first hand experience, and i don't listen to other's "claims".

But it's cool that you mentioned datura, i'm actually trying that this winter once it is finished. But yes like you said some drugs (datura, dmt, salvia, etc...) can make you se crazy things and go to places you've never seen. I've smoked salvia and glad i did (although all of my trips were bad and i don't condone doing drugs). The trip is not how you would think where objects appear and are in the world, but it is more like a dream. At first it looked like a was standing in waving grass made of legos or something. Then i say something like i cant stand and my friend looks out of the normal dimension and tells me why. I look down and my feet are stuck to floor boards and when i lift them up with my feet there is grass underneath. Then i like fall through these colorful outlines of squares through space and end up on a flat surface with my friends again. But that surface was a page, and it started to flip. But the problem was when the page turned, i was on the opposite page as my friends and their page turned and i got sad because i was leaving that "page"(life) even though im still young. I didn't want to start a life over and then i was sad but snapped out of the trip.

I don't know why i wrote all that because they might think i'm condoning drugs, but i'm not. Just educate yoursel

ShatteredWings
December 23rd, 2010, 09:50 AM
I don't know why i wrote all that because they might think i'm condoning drugs, but i'm not. Just educate yoursel

Actually, it's fine. Education is a good thing. Condoning is "hey do this" or something along those lines.

wtblife
December 24th, 2010, 08:47 AM
I seriously meant don't try it, delirients are terrible. People don't say it's unpleasant for no reason, theres a horrible body load and you don't know if you're doing something for real or not and it's just annoying. Not to mention it can easily become dangerous, tons of people injure themselves while on it and a decent amount of people have died from datura OD cause it's difficult to dose. It's really not anything like a trip, it's just your brain getting fucked to hell.

Like imagine trying your hardest to talk to talk to a real person for hours, trying again and again, only to find out you've been having convos with yourself each time. I once ate some cookies with milk only to realize the next day that the box of cookies I was eating didn't exist. I spent a few hours once talking to a friend on AIM and seeing his responses, only to come to for a second with no messages in the window, not even mine.

If you're going to try datura, be VERY careful with the dosing. Don't jump in at what you think is a good dose, start at the lowest and get accustomed to the amount necessary. Even Erowid doesn't really approve of doing Datura cause the dosing varies so much, don't fuck around with it or you will end up dead :-\

Socio
December 24th, 2010, 07:15 PM
I seriously meant don't try it, delirients are terrible. People don't say it's unpleasant for no reason, theres a horrible body load and you don't know if you're doing something for real or not and it's just annoying. Not to mention it can easily become dangerous, tons of people injure themselves while on it and a decent amount of people have died from datura OD cause it's difficult to dose. It's really not anything like a trip, it's just your brain getting fucked to hell.

Like imagine trying your hardest to talk to talk to a real person for hours, trying again and again, only to find out you've been having convos with yourself each time. I once ate some cookies with milk only to realize the next day that the box of cookies I was eating didn't exist. I spent a few hours once talking to a friend on AIM and seeing his responses, only to come to for a second with no messages in the window, not even mine.

If you're going to try datura, be VERY careful with the dosing. Don't jump in at what you think is a good dose, start at the lowest and get accustomed to the amount necessary. Even Erowid doesn't really approve of doing Datura cause the dosing varies so much, don't fuck around with it or you will end up dead :-\

Wow that sounds intense... Sounds like being drunk were it becomes very hard and frustrating to talk to people or do things. But the fact that you said you create moments of reality in your mind seems kind of scary. But when it comes to dosing i am always very careful even if it means starting at a dose were i will feel nothing. I am still not %100 i am going to be doing datura, but i always have a sitter for drugs like that. Like when i did salvia i had a couple sitters(although one of them not knowing about being a sitter thought it would be good to try to piss me off while i was tripping). I will have to read up more on datura if i still want to go through with it.

Thanks

wtblife
December 24th, 2010, 11:06 PM
Most of the time you'll be talking to imaginary people, not real ones, and some stressful imaginary situations can go down. Anything from creepy crawlies to cops or parents could appear, people find themselves talking to chairs and all kinds of things. There's also often this horrible feeling of panic, I felt like my heart was going to explode cause every 20 seconds or so I'd end up feeling like I'd just gotten scared shitless.

Anyway enough of that, it's off topic :P

Fourth Dimension
December 29th, 2010, 05:57 AM
Dude I dont recomend it i mean my experiance on it wasnt bad but it can get very bad it messes you up big time

Mrs.KermitTheFrogx
December 29th, 2010, 07:40 AM
DONT DO IT !!
It proper messed my brother up
its makes you have hallucinations
he imagined the grim reaper coming towards him and tried to jump out the top floor window (4 floors up )
because apparently the grim reaper tried to kill him
so my bro's mates had to tie him to a chair :Ox

Socio
December 30th, 2010, 03:29 AM
DONT DO IT !!
It proper messed my brother up
its makes you have hallucinations
he imagined the grim reaper coming towards him and tried to jump out the top floor window (4 floors up )
because apparently the grim reaper tried to kill him
so my bro's mates had to tie him to a chair :Ox

Well ofcourse you hallucinate lol. And jumping out a window? Really some people just can't handle their drugs. If you think jumping out of a window is a bright thing to do he obviously was not prepared.

The Joker
December 30th, 2010, 04:10 AM
For any drug information I need, I go to a site that is consistently unbiased.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd.shtml

wiip
December 30th, 2010, 04:08 PM
Well ofcourse you hallucinate lol. And jumping out a window? Really some people just can't handle their drugs. If you think jumping out of a window is a bright thing to do he obviously was not prepared.

Oh shut up. When you're on drugs, your mind is not under control. You do things normal circumstances would not lead you to do, and it's because of the drugs, not the person. Sure, some people are more effected by it than others, but that's hardly their fault (unless they took too high a dose). So be less quick to criticise, mate.

Rutherford The Brave
December 30th, 2010, 04:12 PM
Oh shut up. When you're on drugs, your mind is not under control. You do things normal circumstances would not lead you to do, and it's because of the drugs, not the person. Sure, some people are more effected by it than others, but that's hardly their fault (unless they took too high a dose). So be less quick to criticise, mate.

Speak for yourself, I've tripped hard and known completly what the was going on. You can sure as hell control yourself, you just can't control when the trips come. A drunk person is under control of their mind when they get in the car, they just suck doing things physically.

Zazu
December 30th, 2010, 04:59 PM
Oh shut up. When you're on drugs, your mind is not under control. You do things normal circumstances would not lead you to do, and it's because of the drugs, not the person. Sure, some people are more effected by it than others, but that's hardly their fault (unless they took too high a dose). So be less quick to criticise, mate.

Do you have experience of using recreational drugs? The types we're talking about in this thread? Or are you saying that from a complete outside perspective?

I completely agree that alcohol can make people do stupid stuff, myself included, but I've found that all other recreational drugs I've taken put me in a state when I might be tripping balls but I still know what I'm doing and I wouldn't go and do anything 'stupid'.

Socio
December 31st, 2010, 04:55 AM
Oh shut up. When you're on drugs, your mind is not under control. You do things normal circumstances would not lead you to do, and it's because of the drugs, not the person. Sure, some people are more effected by it than others, but that's hardly their fault (unless they took too high a dose). So be less quick to criticise, mate.

When you getting into a drug like LSD you want to make sure you are completely prepared. And by that I am saying you need to go through what could go wrong and make sure you know how to control your emotions. Judging by the story the guy took to high of a dose and/or didn't prepare himself enough for a trip like that. I understand that people do dumb things when they are high and that many people perceive reality very diferently when high, but i am saying he should of been ready to control the outcome. Thats all so don't get ahead of yourself telling me to shut up. But atleast he probabally learned from his trip.

wtblife
January 2nd, 2011, 02:55 AM
Tripping on acid usually isn't quite as overwhelming as shrooms imo, like you can control yourself better. On shrooms that usually just seems impossible, my friends call the lack of logic on shrooms "shroom logic" because everything seems to make sense and you often come up with retarded ideas and call everything "deep". A lot of people seem to describe the lack of control as shrooms being more intruding.

I understand that people do dumb things when they are high and that many people perceive reality very diferently when high, but i am saying he should of been ready to control the outcome


While I agree you should try and plan ahead, sometimes it's just completely unrealistic or doesn't do any good. When I think of a tripper's mindset I just think of shrooms because I have a lot more experience with them and idk, on a higher dose it is just way too overwhelming to control where the trip goes.