The Hip Hop Thread

[Peace God]

I don't feel like explaining for the 1000th time that hip hop isn't about being gansta, wearing expensive things and fucking bitches. Generalizing and stereotyping will only make you look like an idiot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BReXVYi5y_s). If you honestly want to believe that then the back button is for you.

With that out of the way...
Welcome to the hip hop thread. updating this thread with:

Classic Artists/Albums
Personal Favorite Artist/Albums
Interesting Artists/Albums
and other hip hop related topics

Comment, post music, troll, complain, ask questions etc...

You are all welcome to post music! You're also allowed to post modern mainstream songs. Kanye West, Jay-Z (not so much now) and B.O.B., would be examples of fairly decent mainstream artists.
However! If you post Lil Wayne (or any one from "young money"), Soulja Boy, 50 cent, retarded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UFIYGkROII) dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxjZM-d_ShI) fad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp8wJSndyd4) songs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFav9P54JUA), bootyshaking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImK3gP2x0ig) club music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYH7_GzP4Tg) or rich drug dealer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mt2dZTR5kc) "trap" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8okvouuIt2A) songs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCil-kLGkvc) in my thread. I will hunt you down, have your genitals dipped in undiluted hydrochloric acid and drag you from the back of my car faced down.

[Peace God]

#1. Best/Most Influential Albums of All-Time

These albums redefined what it meant to be an MC (aka: "rapper"...athough i dont like that term). The lyrics completely immerse you into life in the "concrete jungle". The albums do sometimes deal with subjects like drugs, drug dealing, gang bangin, robbery, prostitution etc...but never in a positive way. Unlike the "nigga im rich and cool and got mad bitchez cuz i sell drugs" rappers of today.

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Nas
Illmatic
1994

Nas is probably the most talented poets in hip hop. He completely changed the game with his debut album Illmatic and redefined what it meant to be a lyricist. Artists like him helped usher in the "Golden Age" which pretty much meant(to me at least) that you had to have great lyrical ability if you wanted any respect. Great producers collaborated on this gem because they saw so much potential in Nas. Every fucking song on this album is lyrical perfection.

One Love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjd7EbUUds8)
Represent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKYkDwzi-FI)
It Aint Hard to Tell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI-DRbf_AZk)

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The Notorious BIG
Ready to Die (ironic, i know lol)
1994

The Notorious B.I.G. is seen by many as the best rapper ever (a bit overrated imo). His debut album is just great. Big had great flow with clever and confident/cocky lyrics. He talks about his life, is troubles and his rise to the top. The production is amazing too. Definitely a classic.

Suicidal Thoughts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GygEAcFFMVs)
Warning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lb0HImG_MU)
Everyday Struggle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rogvlB2SP4k)

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Wu Tang Clan
Enter the Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers
1993

Nine of the best rappers ever including one of the best producers ever. The RZA is a mad genius, he created the whole Wu Tang sound which is just gritty ass, haunting, hard hitting, basement beats. And the members of the group match the intensity of the RZAs crazy ass beats perfectly. What's even more amazing is that almost every member in the group later went on to drop amazing classic solo albums. Enter the Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers is like a menu for the 9 flavors of dopeness that is the Wu Tang. One of my all-time favorite groups and you can definitely expect another post about them.

Da Mystery of Chessboxin' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsiAsTa0oEI)
Protect Ya Neck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCZrz8siv4Q)

[deadpie]

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Tyler, The Creator is an underground rapper who focuses primarily on offending people. It's not horrorcore, but more though of raw nihilistic rapping. His beats are experimental and I could see him becoming the next big thing to rap. Prepare to be shocked.

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My favorite rapper of all time who's lyrics are not only intense, but philosophical too. If you do not like rap at all, listen to this. This is the rap I like to introduce to people that hate the genre. It's honest and smart. Seriously, check this shit out.

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Another one of the best underground rappers. Genius song right there.

[The Joker]

Real Rhymesayers ftw.

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Blockhead.

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Classics.

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Relaxed flow.

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Popular rap that I like to relax to.

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[deadpie]

^---- The guy that once hated rap that I converted. That's pretty lulzy.


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Jazzy rap.

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Essential Trip Hop

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Underground as fuck.

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El-P is fucking genius.

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Why haven't you heard of this before? It's fucking great.

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Cage is the most personal artist you'll ever mind in music at the moment. This song takes on child abuse and sexual abuse.

[Peace God]

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[The Joker]

^---- The guy that once hated rap that I converted. That's pretty lulzy.

You could probably convert me to the Catholic Church if you tried hard enough.

[Peace God]

#2. "Political" Rap

Similar to the punk subculture, Hip Hop also acts as a huge middle finger to authority, government, mainstream society and conformity.

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^ "I don't rap for dead presidents
I'd rather see the president dead
It's never been said
but I set precedents"...wow

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Dead Prez, Canibus, Public Enemy are others groups that primarily focus on "Political" rap.

[The Joker]

I've been familiar with that Immortal Technique song you posted for a few years.

I can't remember what album it was, but when I was 10, my uncle played me Groove Armada, the whole album in a walkman. I lied down, in between sleep and being awake while this amazing shit was attacking my mind.

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[deadpie]

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Classic underground.

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The master of words.

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Really underground right now. Pretty new too.

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Canadian Rap, eh?

[The Joker]

You listen to Classified? Wow.

[Peace God]

UK Hip Hop...

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[Peace God]

#3. The Underground...part 1: Classic Underground Artists

These guys are some of the best underground artists of all time. They make/made a lot of music with such a wide variety of sounds, influences and genres that it doesnt matter if you dont like one song, you'll probably find something out there that you'll like. Their music, originality and work ethic will continue to make mainstream rappers look like shit for years to come.

Madlib:

Madlib is a multi-genre, multi-instrumentalist producer, DJ and MC. From Southern Cali, his music has a real laid back bass-heavy chill vibe with amazing and interesting samples. He made all of the beats for Madvilliany (an undeground classic).

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Quasimoto
The Unseen
2000

The Unseen is by far his most interesting work. Under his high-pitched alter-ego Quasimoto, this album was created by Madlib during a week long shroom binge.

Come On Feet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsT_WVuMk8I)
Return of the Loop Digga (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH_2apOP4WM)
Discipline 99 pt. 0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlH2j6sSFqs)

He's not incredibly talented at rapping (like a lot of producers) but he gets the job done.
Madlib is constantly cranking out music... he's been coming out with a new cd every month for the last year or so, he's made beats for countless artists and has also started several jazz bands.

EDIT:
More madilb beats...

Dudley Perkins - Fallin' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiGU0Dp1RFA)
Erykah Badu - The Healer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XykIswFgLpU)
Strong Arm Steady - Questions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ib9ZB91GUE)
Slim's Return (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apN0AXjJxQE)


MF DOOM:

The infamous DOOM.

Short Story: He started his career in the early 90s with a group called KMD (which is also a good band). Some crazy shit went down after that (i cant really remember). After losing his group, his career and his brother, he came back as the masked villian MF DOOM to haunt the music industry.

EDIT: MF DOOM has a lot of side projects too... alter-egos King Geedorah and Viktor Vaughn. & collaborations Danger Doom and Madvillain & groups KMD and Monsta Island Czars.

The thing about DOOM is at first you're just like "WTF did he just say?". Sometimes it takes a while for his lyrics to sink in (and sometimes they never do lol). The subject matter of his lyrics are all over the place...it can range from women, to politics, to vats of urine. He's the type of guy that'll say some genius shit in one line and then make a fart joke in the next.

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Danger Doom (MF DOOM + Danger Mouse)
The Mouse and the Mask
2005

Vats of Urine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKJ523x0qo8)
Basket Case (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzvfiOn7L5I)

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MF DOOM
Mm...Food
2004

Vomitspit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S5vaHVD2-w)
Kon Queso (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZOjRdZlnyw)

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Madvillian (MF DOOM + Madlib)
Madvillainy
2004

A madlib produced underground gem...

Raid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weWTuvdL-LQ)
Accordion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpaonSDPw7Y)
All Caps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewc1hixzYPY)

Oh and did i mention he's a great producer? He produced most of the songs for his solo albums. The samples he uses are crazy...like from cartoons, old tv shows 'n shit. Special Herbs is a 9+ cd collection of his beats.

Dragon's Blood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa5A1Aaf4bQ)
Saffron (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUHoCvB6quo)

J Dilla:

One of the Kings of Hip Hop. He's a producer who's produced songs/full albums for a lot of different artists. He's from the motown (Detriot in case you didnt know) so you shouldnt be surprised that his beats are really soulful. He's a god at flipping a soul sample into a dope ass beat. He's been behind countless hip hop classics dating back to the 90s but one of the things i love most about him is the experimental sound he developed later on. Like in Donuts...

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J Dilla
Donuts
2006

Another classic...30+ songs... just instrumentals. This album definitely grew on me.


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EDIT:
Early Dilla production:

The Pharcyde - Groupie Therapy (Instrumental) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1EgcvG7-hI)
Common - Dooinit (Instrumental) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7x_-WWUQAc)
A Tribe Called Quest - Busta's Lament (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfAf79shRF8)

Later on:

Over the Breaks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrTTsvAgrK8)
Geek Down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdq5eXJpzhc)
Jaylib - The Red (Instrumental) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e53bFHRr3CE)
Beat 35 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_TfmWWBJYU)

[deadpie]

Happy to see you bring up a big part on MF Doom, but you forgot his other Project (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S92nxs7MIJw).

[Peace God]

Happy to see you bring up a big part on MF Doom, but you forgot his other Project (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S92nxs7MIJw).
Alright, ill edit it in there.

Im also gonna put more madlib and dilla.

[Peace God]

Chill ass instrumentals....

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[sCa45]

I agree with you. I love hip hop though. :)

[Peace God]

Here's another guy who's specialty is offending people...

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[deadpie]

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Japanese Hip Hop.

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[The Joker]

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fuck you /mu/tants

[deadpie]

fuck you /mu/tants

I'm pretty sure Sage and I are the only /mu/tants here. Mainly me.

[The Joker]

Oh, alright.

fuck you people

[Peace God]

Atheist Rapper FTW!...

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[The Joker]

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Blockhead.

[Peace God]

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[Lyths]

Well all i can say is that Hip-Hop is dying out like Disco

[The Joker]

Well all i can say is that Hip-Hop is dying out like Disco

LOLno. Have you even looked at ANY of the songs in this thread?

[Amnesiac]

Well all i can say is that Hip-Hop is dying out like Disco

I don't listen to any hip-hop at ALL, but I still know your statement is completely untrue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop_music#Innovation_and_revitalization) (inb4 someone comments on the picture of Kanye).

Disco isn't necessarily dead either. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco#1990.E2.80.93Present:_Resurgence)

[deadpie]

I don't listen to any hip-hop at ALL, but I still know your statement is completely untrue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop_music#Innovation_and_revitalization) (inb4 someone comments on the picture of Kanye).

Disco isn't necessarily dead either. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco#1990.E2.80.93Present:_Resurgence)

I suggest you try and listen to some of it. Like start out from the beginning of this thread. You might find something you like.

[Peace God]

Well all i can say is that Hip-Hop is dying out like Disco
I dont know if you're trolling or you if just dont know what you're talkin about.

Hip Hop is a culture...it doesnt die just because it's not being played on the radio.

[Peace God]

I'm gonna do a post on the Wu Tang eventually but im really busy atm.
For now i'll leave you with the one and only Ol Dirty Bastard...

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that drunken flow.

[The Joker]

AJ, what is your opinion on The Cool Kids (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY0Kj9tI8Qo)?

[Peace God]

#4. Essential Albums

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Big L
Lifestyles of the Poor and Dangerous
1995

Big L is a very unappreciated and short lived MC from Harlem, NY. He was kind of controversial for his lyrics including trolltasticly chauvinistic lyrics like "A girl asked for a ring and I put one around her whole eye." He's technically a "hardcore" rapper because of his violent subject matter but his cocky lyrics and sometimes witty puns are pretty entertaining.

Big L - Street Struck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwff61MTOUo)
Big L - All Black (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U1UN4P9Mnw)

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Black Star
Mos Def & Talib Kweli are Black Star
1998

This album is a collaboration between two of my favorite MCs of all time (and the producer Hi-Tek, is really good too). This type of socially "conscious" hip hop focuses on deep poetic lyrics, intelligent/witty punchlines and a lot of "Afrocentric" themes. A must have for any underground hip hop fan.

Black Star - Respiration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY6rkPsLiEE)
Black Star - Thieves in the Night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LQiuQ1xIBM)

AJ, what is your opinion on The Cool Kids (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY0Kj9tI8Qo)?
Meh.

Their lyrics and overall style arent really my cup of tea. But the music is okay I guess. If i see hard work and an effort being made for originality, I will never turn up my nose and ignore it. And I will at least give them some respect.

So yeah, decent music but not my thing.

[OneDeep]

alright alright.. all the music I've seen and listened to here is SHIT. And no im not a lil wayne or drake dick rider like the rest. I'll post a few GOOD rap songs that aren't mainstream.
lil keke - 25 lighters


Z-ro - One Deep



Houston All-stars - Pepsi Smash Mic pass ( True Freestyle skills)


J-dawg & Slim thug - Ride on 4's

Big moe - pill poppa
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and now my anthem
Texas all stars - welcome 2 houston

[deadpie]

alright alright.. all the music I've seen and listened to here is SHIT.

Says the guy who likes mainstream rap about old ass rappers singing about gucci like anyone actually gives a flying fuck about gucci in the first place. Also, those beats are horrible. Most of those aren't even underground, by the way.

Good job disrespecting a genre you thought you knew allot about but you actually didn't. You either didn't listen to most of Volataile's posts, or you just don't understand rap overall.

And for that, I give you snapfingers.jpeg

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[OneDeep]

Says the guy who likes mainstream rap about old ass rappers singing about gucci like anyone actually gives a flying fuck about gucci in the first place. Also, those beats are horrible.

Good job disrespecting a genre you thought you knew allot about but you actually didn't.

And for that, I give you snapfingers.jpeg

Image (http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/8373/1293335716779.jpg)

And in my post what made you think that i liked mainstream rap?
Funny seeing all these white kids obsessing over rap.
You gringos should of stuck to country or rock or whatever.

[deadpie]

And in my post what made you think that i liked mainstream rap?
Funny seeing all these white kids obsessing over rap.
You gringos should of stuck to country or rock or whatever.

> Implying race makes a difference
> Implying I listen to only rock and country
> Implying I like rock and country

I know allot more about music then you do, Kid. Seriously, I've been studying music for a damn long time. It doesn't take dark skin to appreciate good rap music. Wow, racial-prejudice-music-logic is the dumbest fucking shit to ever exist on this planet.

[OneDeep]

Prove it then haha. You sure can talk a lot of shit on the "net" but your white ass wouldn't survive on the streets. You think you are hard and have a hard life cause you listen to these songs preaching real life struggles which all of us know none of you motherfuckers are going through. Never implied you only listened to gringo music, but merely stated you and the mighty nation of blanco should of stayed with it.

Welcome. The white is now the minority.

[Cloud]

And in my post what made you think that i liked mainstream rap?
Funny seeing all these white kids obsessing over rap.
You gringos should of stuck to country or rock or whatever.

Hey you seem to like racism, no one else here does, how about you keep it off the site.
Thankyou

[OneDeep]

Na not racist but proud of my skin color and ancestors.

[The Joker]

Prove it then haha. You sure can talk a lot of shit on the "net" but your white ass wouldn't survive on the streets. You think you are hard and have a hard life cause you listen to these songs preaching real life struggles which all of us know none of you motherfuckers are going through. Never implied you only listened to gringo music, but merely stated you and the mighty nation of blanco should of stayed with it.

Welcome. The white is now the minority.

I don't neccesarily think he cares whether or not this music is hard...he appreciates it for the sound. Oh, alright. You're not racist, but white people shouldn't listen to hip-hop or rap. That makes a LOT of sense. :cool:

[OneDeep]

Yes it does.

[Cloud]

Back on topic please?
the forums called music not deadpie, that should be a good indicator as to what to talk about in the forum

[The Joker]

Yes it does.

racism - discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race < You're discriminating in saying that we're not allowed to listen to certain kinds of music. You're just as bad as some fucking country listening old folk who has a problem with blacks.

Well, I'm done being off topic.

[Amnesiac]

I suggest you try and listen to some of it. Like start out from the beginning of this thread. You might find something you like.

I've taken a look at some of the songs here, and while they're impressive, they don't really fit into my tastes. Certainly very talented stuff though, some of the lyrics here are incredible.

This argument over racism amuses me, but alas, that it all I have to say on that off-topic topic.

[Peace God]

alright alright.. all the music I've seen and listened to here is SHIT. And no im not a lil wayne or drake dick rider like the rest. I'll post a few GOOD rap songs that aren't mainstream.
lil keke - 25 lighters


Z-ro - One Deep



Houston All-stars - Pepsi Smash Mic pass ( True Freestyle skills)


J-dawg & Slim thug - Ride on 4's

Big moe - pill poppa
<

and now my anthem
Texas all stars - welcome 2 houston
First of all, way to show that your tastes in music are narrowed way down to Houston rappers with simple rhymes schemes and no meaningful lyrics whatsoever. Z-ro is the only decent artist on that list. Screwed and Chopped music is a joke btw... so congratulations, be proud that most of your music is made for and by fat, constipated, codeine drinkin' Texans.
Since you're from Houston, please tell me you at least listen to Devin the Dude or Scarface (or at least the Geto Boys). If not you will officially lose the extremely tiny bit of respect I have left for you.

[OneDeep]

First of all, way to show that your tastes in music are narrowed way down to Houston rappers with simple rhymes schemes and no meaningful lyrics whatsoever. Z-ro is the only decent artist on that list. Screwed and Chopped music is a joke btw... so congratulations, be proud that most of your music is made for and by fat, constipated, codeine drinkin' Texans.
Since you're from Houston, please tell me you at least listen to Devin the Dude or Scarface (or at least the Geto Boys). If not you will officially lose the extremely tiny bit of respect I have left for you.

Fuck yeah! Well not so much scarface anymore but geto boys and devin the dude are my fuckin idols. Devin cuz he is a major pothead

[OneDeep]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uvSrrZ4Tts

^ anotha good song

[Charleigh]

Fuck yeah! Well not so much scarface anymore but geto boys and devin the dude are my fuckin idols. Devin cuz he is a major pothead

Hate to burst your bubble but. Smoking weed isnt anything to be proud of.
None of us are impressed.

[Death]

Hate to burst your bubble but. Smoking weed isnt anything to be proud of.
None of us are impressed.

I think he's just trolling. I mean someone can't really be that stupid, right?

[Donkey]

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[deadpie]

Smoking weed is stupid.
On the long run, it affects your brain. Make's you braindead.
It's not clever. He was boasting about his foolishness.
Hope you soon realize what path your taking buddy ^^

Good job getting off topic. You're the second user that's ran an attempt to get this thread closed.


On topic:

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Curren$y kind of has those mainstream rap lyrics that kind of bore me, but it goes well with the beats, which can be jazzy at times. So it's alright.

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Really nice album called "The LP" by Large Professor. Dope shit right here, check this shit out.

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Amazing fucking rap with lots of electronic influences. So fucking addicted to this right now.

[Peace God]

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Really nice album called "The LP" by Large Professor. Dope shit right here, check this shit out.

Fuck yeah, Large Pro is one of the best to do it. I'd give you a 100000x rep for that, if I could.
I also pretty much agree with you on Currensy. Meh lyrics but he normally has decent production that I find pretty good.

[Magus]

Experimental Hip Hop
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Nobody posted this before, right?

[deadpie]

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Just found this. Amazing find.

And here's some more jap shit -

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