New Scanners in Airports

[Erictw1]

Alright, so by now they're probably not all that new, having been out for several months, but what do you think about them? Would you agree or opt for the pat down (or leave)? Would you prefer another form of transportation instead of flying now?

Personally, I have no choice but to take airplanes because of the long distances we travel (inter-continental). I've gone through the full body scanner twice and I personally am against them, it's just that there is no better opportunity it seems. I saw this thing on the news that I agree with. Someone said that it's against the 4th Amendment.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

[Amnesiac]

I'm split between the pat-downs and the scanners. I think both are equally invasive into personal privacy, but in different ways.

Either way, this new heightening in security is, in my opinion, an overreaction just like the limit on the amount of liquid one can carry.

[Bmatlman]

i know. i heard that in isrial they mostly just look at you. wish it was like that i usa

[Amnesiac]

i know. i heard that in isrial they mostly just look at you. wish it was like that i usa

That, however, is an under-reaction. I was fine with the shoes off, metal detector, all-stuff-in-the-tray thing. It was an efficient system that didn't infringe on anyone's rights.

[Bmatlman]

acctualy since isrial has started these new methodes the have acctualy cut down on all problums and have caught peolpe fast to. i do agree with old methode but to us gov that not good enough after ther explosives in clothing isidents plz exsuse my horrible spelling

[Erictw1]

Yeah, I think that the US is overly invasive in this sense, which is against the Constitution. The biggest problem, though, is the fact that different countries have different security systems.

[Bmatlman]

i wish we could trade systems with isreal.

[Navi]

I liked the other system of the tray and the x-ray dectector like what Commander Awesome wrote.
I don't want someone looking at my body parts, and I wouldn't want have someone 'touch my junk' :)
Here's another point from me. The suspicious packages came from a country where I think security is kinda laid back. It had to clear the customs checks too. So, shouldn't that country increase security, as well as the other countries that cleared the packages?
Next, we'll be subjected to full cavity searches in less than 10 years the way we're going...

[Bmatlman]

no in isrial they have gaurds who can read body languge and look to see ifany thing seems suspisius.

[Perseus]

I don't care at all about the scanners. I don't care if someone sees my nude body, and if they do something with my pictures, I will be flattered that they find my nude body attractive. Nudity is no big deal to me. Why can't America be like Europe when it comes to nudity?

And with the pat down, that's stupid. Make farm animal noises at them while they do it. :P There's a difference between being seen naked and having someone touching up on yo' junk.

[Sith Lord 13]

I feel the security measures are appropriate. The full body scan is not overly invasive.

[Perseus]

I feel the security measures are appropriate. The full body scan is not overly invasive.

It really isn't, and airports are for your convenience. No one makes you use them, and if someone has a problem with the security, then they don't have to use it. France's security is more extreme than this.

[Erictw1]

Here's a question, though, do you think it is against the 4th Amendment?

[Amnesiac]

It really isn't, and airports are for your convenience. No one makes you use them

Not necessarily. There are plenty of people, probably at least half of all airport commuters, who are forced to fly for business or simply because there's no other way to get to their destination.

[Sith Lord 13]

Not necessarily. There are plenty of people, probably at least half of all airport commuters, who are forced to fly for business or simply because there's no other way to get to their destination.

Flying for business is optional, you can always quit (no comments on feasibility, just possibility), and there's always another way to get there, even if it's hard as hell to do so.

[Malcolm Tucker]

As someone who is most likely spending their adult life working on aircraft, I am totally for these scans. People need to know their safe and before someone says 'you're safe with the normal scanners' I have two words for you.

Northwest 253.

[Sogeking]

France's security is more extreme than this. Really? How extreme? Unless you mean strip searches.

[Perseus]

Really? How extreme? Unless you mean strip searches.

Their guards have assault rifles and strip search you in front of the populace.

[TopGear]

It really isn't, and airports are for your convenience. No one makes you use them, and if someone has a problem with the security, then they don't have to use it. France's security is more extreme than this.

Exactly, And the thing is either you do it or you don't fly. Pretty simple. I think the more security the better.

Flying for business is optional, you can always quit (no comments on feasibility, just possibility), and there's always another way to get there, even if it's hard as hell to do so.

Not true at all. What if you work internationally, So if your Companies HQ is in The UK and your in the USA good luck getting there without flying. Also be reasonable, No company is going to get a boat ticket so you can cruise across an ocean just for a week. This day and age you either flight is how you get from point A to Point B ( When crossing the big ponds of course)

[Sith Lord 13]

Not true at all. What if you work internationally, So if your Companies HQ is in The UK and your in the USA good luck getting there without flying. Also be reasonable, No company is going to get a boat ticket so you can cruise across an ocean just for a week. This day and age you either flight is how you get from point A to Point B ( When crossing the big ponds of course)

Deal with the scanners or find a new job/position withing the company (again, not commenting on feasible, just physically possible)

[The Dark Lord]

I'd rather some guy looks at my body, then be on a plane with a bomb, due to substandard detection equipment. You Americans really know your consitution, I'm surprised at how highly you regard it

[Sith Lord 13]

You Americans really know your consitution, I'm surprised at how highly you regard it

Why?

[The Dark Lord]

Why?

In Britain, we very rarely, if ever, refer to our constitution. I'm not criticising but the power of the head of state will be heavily dictated by the constitution, whereas in Britain, we don't have that issue

[Sith Lord 13]

In Britain, we very rarely, if ever, refer to our constitution. I'm not criticising but the power of the head of state will be heavily dictated by the constitution, whereas in Britain, we don't have that issue

Americans are very touchy about the government having too much power. It's part of our cultural identity. It goes back to the revolution. No taxation without representation and all that jazz.

[SoWhatsUp]

I guess scanning is better than physical touching (pat down).

[Iceman]

Personally I don't mind them as long as they dont use the images for illegal purposes, it protects me so I have nothing against it