Teacher overreacting or not?

[Agent]

So, today in my biology class, I was working with my friend. We got the work finished early and we started drawing all kinds of crap on paper. I drew a nazi soldier holding a whip. Then my friend drew a naked woman next to it so it looked like the nazi soldier was whipping her. We laughed at it and then the teacher came to look. She asked us to show the paper and I put it in my pencase, while taking out a different paper with "nicer" drawings and I handed it to her. She probably quessed what I did and he took the paper from the pencase herself(isn't that illegal, by the way?). She looked at the picture and she was all shocked etc.
She asked why we drew stuff like that and said that I probably have something wrong with my mind because I thought it was good to draw. Well, she just made a big deal out of it. I sat in the principals office for a good while with my friend, listening to her ramblings. Principal didn't say much, though. Well, we might be getting an hour of detention for that.

Do you think she overreacted?

[Clawhammer]

Well, I must say it wasn't the smartest thing to do, and I'm not surprised that the teacher reacted that way. People can be easily offended by small jokes, it's just best to learn at what times you can safely make them without consequence.

[Fact]

Some people just have a different sense of humour.
Personally, I would've found it hilarious, as would my Biology teacher.
There are people who are more sensitive to things like this than others and unfortunately you probably won't be able to wriggle out of that detention, because your teacher is entitled to her opinion more than you are within school basically.

Still sucks, but at least if you do your time, it's over and done with and you can just hate her guts forever :]

[Amnesiac]

Some teachers have too much of a sense of authority, it's almost Orwellian in a sense. There's no need for her to go around scrutinizing drawings made in non-instructional time with two consenting people who had no intention of displaying it to anyone. It was an overreaction; an incredible waste of time for the principal as well.

I believe that students should have the right to private discussion with another student if it does not interfere with teaching or the rights of other students.

[Agent]

Didn't get detention, but the teacher talked with me and my friend again. She said that we did it because we were shocked because of the history classes had told us about nazis and stuff(as we had Hitler and WWII a couple weeks ago). She told that it's okay to relieve shock by drawing those awful things that made you shocked, but it shouldn't be done in class.

Well, she's totally wrong. I drew it for the lulz and I've known about nazis and Hitler since I was like 7, so it's not a new thing for me.
Well, people who think they know everything about other people are sometimes really hilarious.

[Amnesiac]

Didn't get detention, but the teacher talked with me and my friend again. She said that we did it because we were shocked because of the history classes had told us about nazis and stuff(as we had Hitler and WWII a couple weeks ago). She told that it's okay to relieve shock by drawing those awful things that made you shocked, but it shouldn't be done in class.

Well, she's totally wrong. I drew it for the lulz and I've known about nazis and Hitler since I was like 7, so it's not a new thing for me.
Well, people who think they know everything about other people are sometimes really hilarious.

I don't see the difference between drawing it in class during non-instructional time and drawing it outside of school. As long as other students don't see it, there's really nothing to be bitching about here.

Your teacher sounds like the stereotypical American public school teacher who prides herself on maintaining complete authority over students while not understanding her actions are an utter waste of time and completely unnecessary. Her job is to teach, not to apply her own moral standards concerning art on students who weren't interfering with classroom operations.

[Fact]

Well, she's totally wrong. I drew it for the lulz and I've known about nazis and Hitler since I was like 7, so it's not a new thing for me.
Well, people who think they know everything about other people are sometimes really hilarious.

Exactly, therefore, no harm done.

There is a teacher like this at my school. She is SO full of bullshit it's unbelievable. Her view on the world is that everything should be innocent and good. She talks to her class of 16 year olds like we're 6.

"Now today, we're going to be learning something new!"
*tells us what we learned fucking three years ago*
"Does ev-er-y-bo-dy understand? =D"
Me: go fuck yourself.

[Zazu]

Lol yes I do think she was overreacting.

It wasn't meant to be seen by her or anyone else. She's just waving her authority cock about.

I would find it quite amusing tbh, I'm a twisted bugger like that.

[Triceratops]

Teachers...well, you know what they're fucking like.
How funny that my form tutor who is an absolute MISERABLE BITCH is also a Biology teacher as well. Hmm.

I draw all sorts of stupid shit on my books :) good thing to do when you're extremely bored. I just don't think I would draw something like you did, although that was quite amusing. Most teachers would be all pissy about that though, lol.

[MisterAndrews]

She probably quessed what I did and he took the paper from the pencase herself(isn't that illegal, by the way?).

That actually made me LOL.

The fact is, if you didn't think it was wrong, you wouldn't have hidden it.

But yeah, she overreacted a bit. No need for the Principle to be involved.

[Aless1225]

Drawing dumb drawing is not very smart specialy if you know that the teacher could be a bitch

[msbrooklyn]

i think your teacher just has a different sense of humor than you. i would totally laugh though.

[Apparitions]

If she saw my Biology book from last year she'd have a heart attack, there's so many swastikas and penises that other people drew. I hate teachers that try to impose their views on shit on you, they are there to teach you not give you moral lessons (with the exception of sex ed). If it was between two consenting people and wasn't upsetting others then she had no reason to react in that way. If I saw it then I would have LOL'd because I laugh at weird shit like that.

[DarkHorses]

I might be the only one, but I don't think she overreacted at all. The holocaust was a very tragic and terrible thing, and it killed thousands of people. For you to make a mockery of that, to me, is disgusting. If I was a teacher I would have done the same thing. You were asking for punishment by drawing something like that, and you should have known better. Maybe she only threatened detention to scare you, but I think what she did was right because it hopefully made you realize what you did was wrong.

[Fact]

I might be the only one, but I don't think she overreacted at all. The holocaust was a very tragic and terrible thing, and it killed thousands of people. For you to make a mockery of that, to me, is disgusting. If I was a teacher I would have done the same thing. You were asking for punishment by drawing something like that, and you should have known better. Maybe she only threatened detention to scare you, but I think what she did was right because it hopefully made you realize what you did was wrong.

I don't think your view is 'wrong', just that your sense of humour is different to that of the OP and possibly most people who posted in this thread. The fact that the teacher's personal humour probably dictated how far this issue went is wrong IMO.

[Amnesiac]

I might be the only one, but I don't think she overreacted at all. The holocaust was a very tragic and terrible thing, and it killed thousands of people. For you to make a mockery of that, to me, is disgusting. If I was a teacher I would have done the same thing. You were asking for punishment by drawing something like that, and you should have known better. Maybe she only threatened detention to scare you, but I think what she did was right because it hopefully made you realize what you did was wrong.

Well, if two consenting adults have the right to freely draw something offensive, why don't students? Because they're "young" and "impressionable"? Because they "should've known better"? Face it, it may be "offensive", but it was not causing a disruption and, therefore, is protected speech. Nobody deserves to be punished for expressing their artistic/comedic side, and anyone who suggests otherwise is implying that we should crack down on non-disruptive student-to-student speech, a proposition that disgusts me.

[Sogeking]

Well, if two consenting adults have the right to freely draw something offensive, why don't students? Because they're "young" and "impressionable"? Because they "should've known better"? Face it, it may be "offensive", but it was not causing a disruption and, therefore, is protected speech. Nobody deserves to be punished for expressing their artistic/comedic side, and anyone who suggests otherwise is implying that we should crack down on non-disruptive student-to-student speech, a proposition that disgusts me. Kids dont have the same rights as adults, otherwise we wouldn't have a dress code to abide by to go to school.

[Apparitions]

I might be the only one, but I don't think she overreacted at all. The holocaust was a very tragic and terrible thing, and it killed thousands of people. For you to make a mockery of that, to me, is disgusting. If I was a teacher I would have done the same thing. You were asking for punishment by drawing something like that, and you should have known better. Maybe she only threatened detention to scare you, but I think what she did was right because it hopefully made you realize what you did was wrong.
It was a private joke that the teacher has no business in interrupting. They didn't mean to offend people and were simply having some fun. I've laughed at much worse things anyway. Also, where did he mention the Holocaust at all? He was just making fun of Nazi's which can only be a good thing, right?

[Amnesiac]

Kids dont have the same rights as adults, otherwise we wouldn't have a dress code to abide by to go to school.

True, there are some rights teens don't have, but those don't concern speech. Please read:

The court's 7 to 2 decision held that the First Amendment applied to public schools, and that administrators would have to demonstrate constitutionally valid reasons for any specific regulation of speech in the classroom. The court observed, "It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate." Justice Abe Fortas wrote the majority opinion, holding that the speech regulation at issue in Tinker was "based upon an urgent wish to avoid the controversy which might result from the expression, even by the silent symbol of armbands, of opposition to this Nation's part in the conflagration in Vietnam." The Court held that in order for school officials to justify censoring speech, they "must be able to show that [their] action was caused by something more than a mere desire to avoid the discomfort and unpleasantness that always accompany an unpopular viewpoint," allowing schools to forbid conduct that would "materially and substantially interfere with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school." The Court found that the actions of the Tinkers in wearing armbands did not cause disruption and held that their activity represented constitutionally protected symbolic speech.

[Muscleteen92]

Nah i didnt find the drawing too amusing but their was no need for the principal to be called in.