Man jailed for beating up his childhood rapist

[Saturn]

To be honest, if I was raped by a pedophile as a child, I would probably do far worse than just beat up the guy.

SAN JOSE, Calif. – William Lynch's life spiraled out of control in the 35 years since he alleges he and his brother were molested by a Jesuit priest: He struggled with depression, had nightmares and tried to kill himself twice.

Authorities believe that anger and pain erupted when Lynch lured the Rev. Jerold Lindner to the lobby of his Jesuit retirement home by pretending he had news of a death in the priest's family and beat him severely in front of shocked witnesses.

Lynch, 43, was arrested Friday and booked on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon for the May 10 attack. He was allowed to post $25,000 bail and will plead not guilty at an arraignment sometime next month, his attorney, Pat Harris, told The Associated Press.

Lynch punched the 65-year-old priest repeatedly in the face and body after Lindner said he didn't recognize Lynch during a confrontation at the Jesuits' Sacred Heart retirement home in Los Gatos, said Sgt. Rick Sung, Santa Clara County sheriff's spokesman.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101030/ap_on_re_us/us_priest_attack

[Korashk]

...okay. A guy beat up a guy and went to jail. What's to debate? Sure, the guy possibly had it coming but you can't go round beating the crap out of people and not expect repercussions.

[Amnesiac]

...okay. A guy beat up a guy and went to jail. What's to debate? Sure, the guy possibly had it coming but you can't go round beating the crap out of people and not expect repercussions.

Indeed. The law is unwavering. It doesn't bend to adapt to underlying personal issues, no matter how justified.

[Continuum]

Indeed. The law is unwavering. It doesn't bend to adapt to underlying personal issues, no matter how justified.

It does not, however, even try to include everyone's own personal grievances, pains, or emotional distresses.

[Fact]

The problem I have with this is that people say "don't take the law into your own hands" and all that...
If you've been sexually abused as a child and you never got your justice, I'd say that their penance is still outstanding.
Also, if the guy HAD gone to prison, I'm sure much worse things than a beating up would happen to him in there...

[Korashk]

It does not, however, even try to include everyone's own personal grievances, pains, or emotional distresses.
Nor should it.

[Amnesiac]

It does not, however, even try to include everyone's own personal grievances, pains, or emotional distresses.

That's pretty much what I said :rolleyes:

[ShyGuyInChicago]

An issues that has been raise is that should people who do such things get leniency?

[ShaneK]

i was raped, an i have blackmailed and attacked some of the sickos who did it. No one can dispute what drove that man to attack him. You cannot understand the depth of anger and how damaging it is unless you have been through it yourself. Too often abusers escape from justice. Once your life has been shattered like that it is impossible to pick up all the pieces

[Tristin.]

if i was ever raped, id try and get revenge on whoever did it....

[ShaneK]

I am sure that is why I have such a temper and a penchant for drugs. i have spent my entire life trying to find a way of blotting it out

[Continuum]

That's pretty much what I said :rolleyes:

I know :P

It just appears as the law is cold and apathetic to anything. We are all bitches to a common law, given that it provides sufficient cover and attention to scope any loophole or heartaches inquired.

[Sith Lord 13]

i was raped, an i have blackmailed and attacked some of the sickos who did it. No one can dispute what drove that man to attack him. You cannot understand the depth of anger and how damaging it is unless you have been through it yourself.

Agreed.

Too often abusers escape from justice.

Again agreed.

Once your life has been shattered like that it is impossible to pick up all the pieces

This is the one thing I don't agree with. There's always a way to move on and move forward. You can always glue yourself back together, even if the cracks are still visible.



Honestly, I feel for this guy. I honestly think that, if the claims can be substantiated, the DA should plea him down to a lesser charge and give him probation, community service, and mandatory counseling.

[ShaneK]

Sith i do and dont agree with you. I find myself, the world thinks im okay i dress like them and talk like them. But underneath all of that i am not like them. My mind and outlook are different. Even physically I am different, i can withstand more pain than most people. A lot of people give up on life, i choose to fight life

If i didnt think like this i would not be here now. We all are so different. I've had to fight for so long its what i do. Other people adapt and fit in.

They need to take the abuse into account, but it will have to be proven in court. I understand the rage he lived with for so long, the torment his life is cos of that **...

[Fiction]

Did the rapist get punished? If the the guy who beat him up did and the rapist didn't that i think that is terrible. If they both got the punishment for their respective crimes then i think that is ok. I'm sure the rapist did so much more damage to that guy that he ever did by beating him up.

[ShaneK]

The guy needs treatment not prison. So he beat the guy up, hell ive done that. He needs help, believe me, his own life has been more of a hell than any prison can be.

Now i aint sayin we should all be like vigilantes or anything, but we can understand why he did it

[Sith Lord 13]

Did the rapist get punished? If the the guy who beat him up did and the rapist didn't that i think that is terrible. If they both got the punishment for their respective crimes then i think that is ok. I'm sure the rapist did so much more damage to that guy that he ever did by beating him up.

If he hasn't been convicted yet, he can't be. Statute of limitations will be up.

[ShaneK]

People like him shouldnt be able to live. There is nothing like having your innocence stolen away from you

[Continuum]

There is nothing like having your innocence stolen away from you

Like, having your first taste of sexual intercourse? ;)

[Sith Lord 13]

Like, having your first taste of sexual intercourse? ;)

That was wrong on so many levels. No. Just No.

[ShaneK]

yea you got me gaul at 5 i begged to be f'd and have the flesh on my back slashed.

oh i knew all about whiskey as well

[Continuum]

That was wrong on so many levels. No. Just No.

I know it is. That's why it takes your goody-goody away. :P

[ShaneK]

Gaul you like it when children are hurt dont you, fun for you is it? The word sicko is to polite

[Continuum]

Gaul you like it when children are hurt dont you, fun for you is it? The word sicko is to polite

No, when did children come along? I was telling how it plays a role in widening someone's perception of the world, in coming of age perhaps.

[ShaneK]

Shane: There is nothing like having your innocence stolen away from you
Gaul: Like, having your first taste of sexual intercourse?
Sith: That was wrong on so many levels. No. Just No.
Gaul: I know it is. That's why it takes your goody-goody away.
Remembering that you have knowledge of the above postings so you know i had been abused.

your joke or watever it is in unspeakably bad taste as you admit. i dont ever want to meet you, for your sake not mine.

[Sith Lord 13]

No, when did children come along? I was telling how it plays a role in widening someone's perception of the world, in coming of age perhaps.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're an idiot. Look at the topic. The whole time has been about children.

[ShaneK]

gaul you get no benefit of the doubt from me as you are sick. You just want attention and to irriate people like a child. strange how someone who gets off from children being hurt is like a child themselves. guess your sick and stupid.

[Continuum]

gaul you get no benefit of the doubt from me as you are sick. You just want attention and to irriate people like a child. strange how someone who gets off from children being hurt is like a child themselves. guess your retarded

I was being off-topic, and being an asshole. I didn't think for a while there, pardon me for my retarded comments.

I am sorry, if not impose a harsh punishment if necessary.

[The Dark Lord]

No, when did children come along? I was telling how it plays a role in widening someone's perception of the world, in coming of age perhaps.

You compare getting raped to coming of age?

I don't think anyone is justified in breaking the law, no matter the circumstances. If you start applying that logic, then murderers will get no punishment. The police and the courts are there for a reason and anyone who uses the "take the law into their own hands" card is a moron.

[Clawhammer]

The problem I have with this is that people say "don't take the law into your own hands" and all that...
If you've been sexually abused as a child and you never got your justice, I'd say that their penance is still outstanding.
Also, if the guy HAD gone to prison, I'm sure much worse things than a beating up would happen to him in there...

This. I know if I got seriously raped, I would make the quest for revenge my life's meaning and gladly go to prison for it.

[Fact]

This. I know if I got seriously raped, I would make the quest for revenge my life's meaning and gladly go to prison for it.

Indeed.
Especially if there's no chance you can legally make the person pay for what they did. If it's still affecting you, then I feel that people should be able to express that..

[The Dark Lord]

Indeed.
Especially if there's no chance you can legally make the person pay for what they did. If it's still affecting you, then I feel that people should be able to express that..

This. I know if I got seriously raped, I would make the quest for revenge my life's meaning and gladly go to prison for it.

You thats stupid. The law is there for a reason, its not up to us to decide whether we abide by the law or not. Also surely you are simply sinking to their level by attacking them

[Fact]

You thats stupid. The law is there for a reason, its not up to us to decide whether we abide by the law or not. Also surely you are simply sinking to their level by attacking them

Well if you were raped and mentally affected by that, then I doubt you'd have far to sink, because you'd probably be a very messed up person.
Yes, there's a law for a reason and way too often that reason is not fulfilled.

[The Dark Lord]

Well if you were raped and mentally affected by that, then I doubt you'd have far to sink, because you'd probably be a very messed up person.
Yes, there's a law for a reason and way too often that reason is not fulfilled.

Surely the best way to respond to the rapist is by not letting it affect you and rebuilding your life successfully? It is not a justified reason to murder/attack someone because they raped you, you tell the police and you testify, that's how the law should and usually works

[Fact]

Surely the best way to respond to the rapist is by not letting it affect you and rebuilding your life successfully? It is not a justified reason to murder/attack someone because they raped you, you tell the police and you testify, that's how the law should and usually works

How can you expect a child to not be affected by rape when they're in their most impressionable and vulnerable state, then go on to have a successful life?

Fair enough, if you have the option you should at least attempt to get the matter settled in court, but if the guy's childhood is long gone and there's practically no evidence, then how would that work?

[The Dark Lord]

How can you expect a child to not be affected by rape when they're in their most impressionable and vulnerable state, then go on to have a successful life?

As insensitive as this sounds, people can and do recover, you only let the rapist win by letting it destroy your whole life. I'm not saying it doesn't affect you, but through help and support there are ways to recover

Fair enough, if you have the option you should at least attempt to get the matter settled in court, but if the guy's childhood is long gone and there's practically no evidence, then how would that work?

It still doesn't justify an attack/murder. If you sued ASDA and lost, does that mean you would be entitled to steal goods to the value of the amount of money you would have received had you won the case?

[Fact]

As insensitive as this sounds, people can and do recover, you only let the rapist win by letting it destroy your whole life. I'm not saying it doesn't affect you, but through help and support there are ways to recover

I wouldn't say it's that insensitive because it's true for some people. I'm just trying to think how I'd react if I were raped as a child and then saw my rapist living a free life having not paid for what he did when it's messing me up inside...



It still doesn't justify an attack/murder. If you sued ASDA and lost, does that mean you would be entitled to steal goods to the value of the amount of money you would have received had you won the case?


↑ fair point I guess, but I still think there's a certain degree of justice to what this guy did.

[ShaneK]

It is true many children do recover, but many of us dont. It is a life quest to make your abusers pay at least it is for me. The law offers me no recourse.

They have turned me into a drug addict turning tricks to pay for my habit. I cant even relate to the normal things of life like school and family. I am like many an outsider lookin in at society. I can only sleep for 1 or 2 hours at a time and when i do sleep its a restless kind of sleep. I have a strong need for sex and am extremely violent. My own life is my personal pugatory. So do tell me please how I can be successful?

Nothing is enough for what they have done

[The Dark Lord]

It is true many children do recover, but many of us dont. It is a life quest to make your abusers pay at least it is for me. The law offers me no recourse.

They have turned me into a drug addict turning tricks to pay for my habit. I cant even relate to the normal things of life like school and family. I am like many an outsider lookin in at society. I can only sleep for 1 or 2 hours at a time and when i do sleep its a restless kind of sleep. I have a strong need for sex and am extremely violent. My own life is my personal pugatory. So do tell me please how I can be successful?

Nothing is enough for what they have done

I know how insensitive this sounds, but the fact that you turned to drugs says a lot about the lack of support you have received. More should be done to help rape victims, but there is never any logical reason for turning to drugs. Why not seek professional help for your addiction and attempt to rebuild your life otherwise the bastard will have won again

[Deathwingo0o]

If I was raped by a stranger, maybe I'll really buy a gun and make it my ambition to find him/her and try to shoot down the mthrf*kr myself.

[Kaius]

ROTW :arrow2: VT Chronicle

[ShaneK]

Bastards. Drugs arent logical, but its the only thing giving me a thin line of sanity at times. Yeah im weak and stupid, I know that but at least i'm alive. You cant understand the depth of rage and how powerful it is. But I cant run from the past or myself. So it is something I have to be deal with eventually. But at times the past doesnt seem like the past. I know the way im livin life is wrong

[Sith Lord 13]

Well if you were raped and mentally affected by that, then I doubt you'd have far to sink, because you'd probably be a very messed up person.

You make it sound like being sexually abused makes you a lost cause. It doesn't.

Surely the best way to respond to the rapist is by not letting it affect you and rebuilding your life successfully? It is not a justified reason to murder/attack someone because they raped you, you tell the police and you testify, that's how the law should and usually works

1) You make it sound like a choice. It's not. Especially when you're that young, it will affect you. You can't just "not let it affect you".

2) All too often the law doesn't work that way, not to mention statute of limitations and repressed memories.

How can you expect a child to not be affected by rape when they're in their most impressionable and vulnerable state, then go on to have a successful life?

They can have a successful life. It's not the end of the world. Abused children are still people. It will always affect them, but they're still people.

Fair enough, if you have the option you should at least attempt to get the matter settled in court, but if the guy's childhood is long gone and there's practically no evidence, then how would that work?

There are far too many ways, especially in the US, for people to get away with things like this.

As insensitive as this sounds, people can and do recover, you only let the rapist win by letting it destroy your whole life. I'm not saying it doesn't affect you, but through help and support there are ways to recover

You're right and you're wrong. People do recover, but an important part of the healing process for most people is to see justice served.

It still doesn't justify an attack/murder. If you sued ASDA and lost, does that mean you would be entitled to steal goods to the value of the amount of money you would have received had you won the case?

The two things are not comparable.

I wouldn't say it's that insensitive because it's true for some people. I'm just trying to think how I'd react if I were raped as a child and then saw my rapist living a free life having not paid for what he did when it's messing me up inside...

It's true that every person can recover. The question is what steps are necessary.

It is true many children do recover, but many of us dont. It is a life quest to make your abusers pay at least it is for me. The law offers me no recourse.

As Shane points out, all too often the law can't help.

They have turned me into a drug addict turning tricks to pay for my habit. I cant even relate to the normal things of life like school and family. I am like many an outsider lookin in at society. I can only sleep for 1 or 2 hours at a time and when i do sleep its a restless kind of sleep. I have a strong need for sex and am extremely violent. My own life is my personal pugatory. So do tell me please how I can be successful?

You can Shane. It's a matter of getting help.

Nothing is enough for what they have done

No, it's not.

[The Dark Lord]

Bastards. Drugs arent logical, but its the only thing giving me a thin line of sanity at times. Yeah im weak and stupid, I know that but at least i'm alive. You cant understand the depth of rage and how powerful it is. But I cant run from the past or myself. So it is something I have to be deal with eventually. But at times the past doesnt seem like the past. I know the way im livin life is wrong

Why not change it? Why not seek help?



1) You make it sound like a choice. It's not. Especially when you're that young, it will affect you. You can't just "not let it affect you".

2) All too often the law doesn't work that way, not to mention statute of limitations and repressed memories.



I'm not making it a choice, but there is help that should be available to help them rebuild their lives, people can and do rebuild their lives. You cannot let it destroy you, you can't go into meltdown. People should be there for you.





The two things are not comparable.


Breaking the law is breaking the law, you shouldn't do it regardless of the circumstances

[Sith Lord 13]

Why not change it? Why not seek help?

Again, you make it sound like that's a choice.

I'm not making it a choice, but there is help that should be available to help them rebuild their lives, people can and do rebuild their lives. You cannot let it destroy you, you can't go into meltdown. People should be there for you.

And when the help's not there?

Breaking the law is breaking the law, you shouldn't do it regardless of the circumstances

The law exists to serve justice. When it protects the guilty, it is no longer law but tyranny.

[The Dark Lord]

Again, you make it sound like that's a choice.

Whether you suffer alone or seek help is a choice and its a choice that should always be available


And when the help's not there?

There is always help, in some form available. eg religion, family, friends, phone lines, clincs etc


The law exists to serve justice. When it protects the guilty, it is no longer law but tyranny.

There is a difference between protecting the guilty and not having enough evidence to convict them

[Sith Lord 13]

Whether you suffer alone or seek help is a choice and its a choice that should always be available

Big difference between should and is.

There is always help, in some form available. eg religion, family, friends, phone lines, clincs etc

And when no one believes it? When the repression makes it hard for you to believe it yourself?

There is a difference between protecting the guilty and not having enough evidence to convict them

And when there would be enough evidence to convict were the man not held in such high regard?

[Daniel_]

I say kudos to the guy. If I were him, you better believe I'd do far more than beat him up.

If he fucked up my childhood for something stupid like that, i'd make SURE he felt the pain.
It's justice. And if the Law or officials can't bring justice to this old man, i would(and am glad the man) bring justice to the old pervert myself.

Good job, man. Hope this helps you get over your nightmares.

[Minimoose]

I say kudos to the guy. If I were him, you better believe I'd do far more than beat him up.

If he fucked up my childhood for something stupid like that, i'd make SURE he felt the pain.
It's justice. And if the Law or officials can't bring justice to this old man, i would(and am glad the man) bring justice to the old pervert myself.

Good job, man. Hope this helps you get over your nightmares.

Agreed!


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