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ShyGuyInChicago
November 16th, 2010, 04:20 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/immigrant-vets-face-deportation-690019.html
This is a very conflicting issues, but is it fair for a non-citizen who served in the military to be deported for breaking the law even if the law broken was a relatively minor one such as a non-violent drug offense? Should non-citizens who serve in the military automatically gain citizenship after completing their service or if they die in service?
TopGear
November 16th, 2010, 06:32 PM
Well an issue here is that when you sign up for the Military there is that question " Are you an U.S Citizen?" I wonder how he answered that.
ShyGuyInChicago
November 16th, 2010, 06:42 PM
Well an issue here is that when you sign up for the Military there is that question " Are you an U.S Citizen?" I wonder how he answered that.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/f/noncitizen.htm
Non-citizens (permanent residents) are allowed to enlist.
TopGear
November 16th, 2010, 08:08 PM
Well, Didn't feel like looking up what you just did. So I would say that if you serve for my country as an illegal immigrant and don't have a rap sheet then I would say that is more then enough for citizenship, To go to war for a country you don't even belong to? That shows that he really really cares. Those are the kind of Illegals I would like to see more of. Good for that guy and god bless em.
Ender
November 16th, 2010, 08:15 PM
This is fucking stupid...
ShyGuyInChicago
November 16th, 2010, 08:25 PM
This is fucking stupid...
How?
Ender
November 16th, 2010, 08:29 PM
How?
1. non-citizens can enlist
2. Non-citizens who have previously served, and supported our country's freedom, can be deported
TopGear
November 16th, 2010, 08:30 PM
2. Non-citizens who have previously served, and supported our country's freedom, can be deported
Are you calling this stupid? If so, I agree.
Ender
November 16th, 2010, 08:45 PM
Are you calling this stupid? If so, I agree.
Yes, very very stupid
TopGear
November 16th, 2010, 09:54 PM
Ok yes, Very stupid. I mean C'mon, he served for our country! The least we can do is give him citizenship.
~Drew
Sith Lord 13
November 19th, 2010, 09:59 AM
So I would say that if you serve for my country as an illegal immigrant and don't have a rap sheet then I would say that is more then enough for citizenship, To go to war for a country you don't even belong to? That shows that he really really cares. Those are the kind of Illegals I would like to see more of. Good for that guy and god bless em.
Illegal immigrants can't serve. A permanent resident is legal, they're just not citizens. I feel anyone who's served in the military and been honorably discharged should be granted citizenship.
Jess
November 19th, 2010, 04:43 PM
if a non-citizen has served in the military then he should be granted citizenship
Awesome Sauce
November 22nd, 2010, 08:05 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/immigrant-vets-face-deportation-690019.html
This is a very conflicting issues, but is it fair for a non-citizen who served in the military to be deported for breaking the law even if the law broken was a relatively minor one such as a non-violent drug offense? Should non-citizens who serve in the military automatically gain citizenship after completing their service or if they die in service?
the rule is that if you join the U.S. military, and you're illegal, your FAMILY becomes legal. You still gotta get your ass out.
ShyGuyInChicago
November 22nd, 2010, 10:08 PM
Here is some information I got in another website. Non-citizens who serve in the military can used their service to apply for citizenship.
Peacetime Military Service: Under INA Section 328, persons who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces (including active duty, reserves, or national guard), can file for Naturalization based on their current or prior U.S. military service. The requirements for eligibility are that the applicant must have served honorably or have separated from the service under honorable conditions, have completed one year or more of military service, and be a legal permanent resident at the time of his or her examination by USCIS on the Form N-400, Application for Naturalization. This used to be three years, but Congress changed it to one year in 2002. Filing for naturalization under this provision of the law, Section 328 of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, as amended (INA), excuses the applicant from any specific period of residence or physical presence within the United States, so long as the application is filed while the applicant is still serving with the military or within 6 months of an honorable discharge.
Service During Hostilities : By Executive Order Number 13269, dated July 3, 2002, President Bush declared that all those persons serving honorably in active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States at any time on or after September 11, 2001 until a date to be announced, are eligible to apply for naturalization in accordance with the service during hostilities statutory exception in Section 329 of the INA to the naturalization requirements. This means that individuals with even one day of honorable active duty service can apply for citizenship, regardless of how long they have been a resident. Note: Under this provision, individuals who apply for citizenship after discharge must present a DD Form 214, with service characterized as "Honorable," or "General." Those with other characterizations (including Entry Level Separation), are not eligible.
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