View Full Version : USA should have a child limit
Awesome
November 8th, 2010, 09:51 PM
I think USA needs a limit on the amount of children you can have, similar to China. I think that limit should be 3. People are bring born like crazy and many end up in adoption centers. Soon there will be no room to build and no food to eat. Los Angeles has a shortage on water, soon many cities will have shortages on water. Without a child limit the government would start limiting you to a certain amount of tap water and drinking water a day.
With many kids we need to worry about building many schools. My current high school is overflowed by 1000 students. My middle school, by about 500 in only 3 years. My elementary school, by about 300. There are over 30 students in my classes. What happened the old 18 - 20 students in a class? This is why our education is poor, because the teacher doesn't have time to help every single child.
Nobody needs alot of children. If you like children you can always work as a teacher or a day care assistant.
Rules-
3 kids per married couple
If you have more than 3 kids at once you get to keep them all.
New job invented, Population Police. Go to court for more than 3 kids unless born with more than 3.
China has a child limit, so we could to. AND WE NEED ONE.
What are your options on this topic? Explain why we should or shouldn't have a child limit.
TopGear
November 8th, 2010, 09:58 PM
I disagree with this on so many different levels. It the moment I can not tell you options or my thoughts about this because I have to get off, but I will later.
Amnesiac
November 8th, 2010, 10:02 PM
I disagree. It's too invasive into personal privacy.
Even with how much I despise Catholic families with 8 kids, I don't believe in government regulation of children. What happens when someone breaks that rule?
TopGear
November 8th, 2010, 10:22 PM
I know what they are going to do, they are going to tax the hell out of us.
ShyGuyInChicago
November 8th, 2010, 10:24 PM
How would this be enforced? Is it 3 kids per couple or per person? What if couples get pregnant with multiples? What happens if couples have too many kids will they have to abort or put them up for adoption? It just seems like such a law would be impossible to implement fairly.
ShyGuyInChicago
November 8th, 2010, 10:25 PM
I disagree. It's too invasive into personal privacy.
Even with how much I despise Catholic families with 8 kids, I don't believe in government regulation of children. What happens when someone breaks that rule?
What is wrong with having large amounts of kids as long as they can be taken care of?
Amnesiac
November 8th, 2010, 10:29 PM
What is wrong with having large amounts of kids as long as they can be taken care of?
I find it disturbing that some people are willing to have excessive amounts of children just so they can spread their disgusting socially-conservative religion.
Andredavid
November 8th, 2010, 10:36 PM
i agree
Most people have kids and dont want them so they give the child up for adoption. And there is like atleast 5 shows about parents who have like any where from 8 to 18 kids. And they have tons of problems.whether its dealing with money problems or just the parents that are overwhelmed with the kids.
And ye im in a school where my smallest class has about 25 kids and the most is about 30 kids.
Its so hard to learn with that many kids.
And with all the kids they have to grow up and then will have to work and thats what causes a lot of job shortages.
and you have any of you guys read the book
Among the hidden, among the brave
Er any other of those series by margrett haddix ??
Because it is about a gov. That only allows 2 kids per household and it talks about what happens to the people that have more than 2 and stuff like that.
I read it in like 7 grade its pretty good even though its a middle school book.
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Awesome
November 8th, 2010, 11:03 PM
If you have more the 3 babies born at once you luckily get to keep them.
3 kids per couple.
Think about the population 20 years from now. Guys this is the generation that there will be shortages on food, water housing. All your basic needs! The population increases alot in US every year. Why can't we be like France, there birth rate is going down because they focus on there own lives and see what will happen with to many people.
TopGear
November 8th, 2010, 11:34 PM
Rules-
3 kids per married couple
If you have more than 3 kids at once you get to keep them all.
New job invented, Population Police . Go to court for more than 3 kids unless born with more than 3.
Ok say I have 5 kids, what is the population police (21st century gestapo) going to do, take 2 of my children away and kill them???
I think this is an outlandish thing for any country to do. If something like this did come around in the US I would gladly packing my bags and heading else where.
Korashk
November 8th, 2010, 11:57 PM
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The Joker
November 9th, 2010, 01:43 AM
I rarely ever think that placing limits on anything is good.
Perseus
November 9th, 2010, 07:25 AM
If you have more the 3 babies born at once you luckily get to keep them.
3 kids per couple.
Think about the population 20 years from now. Guys this is the generation that there will be shortages on food, water housing. All your basic needs! The population increases alot in US every year. Why can't we be like France, there birth rate is going down because they focus on there own lives and see what will happen with to many people.
Okay, Thomas Malthus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_malthus). The average household has two and half kids. So, that's not a lot. America is not overcrowded. America has no shortage on food. America does not have a shortage on water.
Sith Lord 13
November 9th, 2010, 10:16 AM
I disagree. It's too invasive into personal privacy.
Even with how much I despise Catholic families with 8 kids, I don't believe in government regulation of children. What happens when someone breaks that rule?
I find it disturbing that some people are willing to have excessive amounts of children just so they can spread their disgusting socially-conservative religion.
And what about an atheist family with 8 kids?
Back on topic, No. Just no. Too much damn government regulation. Government needs less regulation, not more.
Azunite
November 9th, 2010, 10:24 AM
It is a human's right to have kids, you are just talking crap now.
Jess
November 9th, 2010, 11:06 AM
uh no
So I have four kids, what will they do to my fourth child? I don't want anything to happen to him/her. If I am able to afford to take care of all my children...
and the among the brave and those books are really sad. if you are the third child you can't exist you have to hide.
I totally disagree with this. I understand why China has it, but the US should NOT have this
Amnesiac
November 9th, 2010, 04:36 PM
And what about an atheist family with 8 kids?
I would disagree just as much. Children aren't born to spread religion, or anti-religion. A child should be left to choose his/her own beliefs. When I have kids, I'm not pushing atheism on them.
Camazotz
November 9th, 2010, 04:59 PM
Isn't this the idea of a series of books? Among the Brave? And isn't the general moral how evil it would be to try to control population?
I don't see why our population needs to be controlled. It's at a stable level in general, besides some areas where people are densely populated.
ShatteredWings
November 9th, 2010, 05:22 PM
Um, no..
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_average_number_of_children_per_household
1.89 children per couple, not accounting for people who don't get married.
We're having a population decline, not spike, there's no need to put caps on how many children one can have.
I can see a reason to prevent certain people from having children (drug addicts, mostly, since theirs are the children who end up in the system most of the time), but that's not what this debate is.
mranderson
November 9th, 2010, 08:42 PM
I dont think this would sold anything , i think people would still have kids and more kids would end up in orphanages and on the streets
Jenna.
November 10th, 2010, 05:22 PM
I agree completely. There are so many children being born into families who can't care for them, it's disgusting. And so many families already have their own kids to care for, so of course less are being adopted so more of them are simply "rotting away" in orphanages.
Our country is very overpopulated...my school is also overflowing with students. A limit of 2 or 3 children per family would be great. I don't plan on having any kids. If for some reason I decide to have one, I would definitely opt for adopting a child rather than bringing another one into the world when we have plenty who already need homes.
The Dark Lord
November 10th, 2010, 05:23 PM
There is no need for a child limit to be introduced in America. The basic principle of parenthood is don't have kids which you can't support, too many teenagers and idiots have children which they aren't capable of dealing with. Until this is addressed poverty will continue, its as simple as that
Sith Lord 13
November 10th, 2010, 10:27 PM
The overpopulation in the US is caused not by births but by immigration.
Sage
November 10th, 2010, 10:29 PM
The overpopulation in the US is caused not by births but by immigration.
Legal or illegal immigration? Also, source please.
Korashk
November 10th, 2010, 10:35 PM
The overpopulation in the US is caused not by births but by immigration.
There is no overpopulation problem in America, or anywhere really
Sith Lord 13
November 10th, 2010, 10:35 PM
Legal or illegal immigration? Also, source please.
Um, no..
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_average_number_of_children_per_household
1.89 children per couple, not accounting for people who don't get married.
Take deductive reasoning from that. Both legal and illegal raise the population levels, but which is an issue and which is not, proper levels, etc. is for a different thread.
The Joker
November 11th, 2010, 12:13 AM
I agree completely. There are so many children being born into families who can't care for them, it's disgusting. And so many families already have their own kids to care for, so of course less are being adopted so more of them are simply "rotting away" in orphanages.
Our country is very overpopulated...my school is also overflowing with students. A limit of 2 or 3 children per family would be great. I don't plan on having any kids. If for some reason I decide to have one, I would definitely opt for adopting a child rather than bringing another one into the world when we have plenty who already need homes.
How exactly would you enforce this law? Annihilate the extra child?
Sogeking
November 12th, 2010, 02:06 PM
There is no overpopulation problem in America, or anywhere really
What about China or india
Fact
November 12th, 2010, 02:12 PM
What about China or india
Exactly? China has a child limit for a reason.
I don't live in America, so I suppose it's easier for me to say this, but I think some form of controlling the number of people living there is a sensible idea - limiting the number of children people can have seems like one of the easiest ways.
So many people have children that they can't take care of/don't want and it does cause problems somewhere down the line - it's another body to clothe, another mouth to feed. As everyone is supposed to have equal human rights, though, it's debatable as to how exactly they would enforce a law like this if it was to be put into practise.
Sogeking
November 12th, 2010, 02:26 PM
He was saying that there was no overpopulation problem anywhere. Anyway, china already took steps to control their problem but still have to deal with the large population. But slowly, over time they won't have to worry.
Korashk
November 12th, 2010, 03:47 PM
What about China or india
http://humangeography.wikispaces.com/file/view/ChinaIndiaPopDensity800.jpg/40221996/ChinaIndiaPopDensity800.jpg
I realize that some of that is mountains, but still.
Fact
November 12th, 2010, 03:57 PM
http://humangeography.wikispaces.com/file/view/ChinaIndiaPopDensity800.jpg/40221996/ChinaIndiaPopDensity800.jpg
I realize that some of that is mountains, but still.
Think about the figures though.
445+ people in one square kilometre of space?
Perseus
November 12th, 2010, 04:05 PM
http://humangeography.wikispaces.com/file/view/ChinaIndiaPopDensity800.jpg/40221996/ChinaIndiaPopDensity800.jpg
I realize that some of that is mountains, but still.
The majority of China is desert and mountains. They have an overpopulation problem, but soon they'll have a no female population problem.
Fact
November 12th, 2010, 04:39 PM
The majority of China is desert and mountains. They have an overpopulation problem, but soon they'll have a no female population problem.
Really? I haven't heard all that much about that...
Anyway, this is becoming off topic as we're now not even talking about USA xD
Korashk
November 12th, 2010, 05:59 PM
The majority of China is desert and mountains. They have an overpopulation problem, but soon they'll have a no female population problem.
People can live in deserts and mountains. It's a bit harder, but not all that difficult.
Perseus
November 12th, 2010, 07:35 PM
People can live in deserts and mountains. It's a bit harder, but not all that difficult.
I know, but China is becoming more urbanized. Less people are starting to live off of rice paddy fields and are working in places like Shanghai, etc.
Peace God
November 12th, 2010, 08:44 PM
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The Joker
November 13th, 2010, 02:51 AM
Still haven't received an answer as to how the US would deal with the extra child.
Korashk
November 13th, 2010, 03:42 AM
Still haven't received an answer as to how the US would deal with the extra child.
And you probably won't.
The Joker
November 13th, 2010, 04:32 AM
Kind of what I figured. I'm waiting for some absolutely insane idea to come along so I can break it down.
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