View Full Version : Respect should be earned
The Joker
November 5th, 2010, 08:02 PM
Do you agree with this?
Say a teacher did something you thought was wrong, and you called them out for this. Most teachers would say, "You should respect me, I'm an authority figure." Now, would you tell them respect is earned?
Korashk
November 5th, 2010, 08:19 PM
Do you agree with this?
Say a teacher did something you thought was wrong, and you called them out for this. Most teachers would say, "You should respect me, I'm an authority figure." Now, would you tell them respect is earned?
I agree that respect is earned, and if I heard a professor say something I knew to be false I would definitely call them out.
This is an appropriate image I think:
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4601/horrible.jpg
Amnesiac
November 5th, 2010, 08:22 PM
I hate that note with a passion. A PASSION.
Respect is something that is earned. Authority should always be questions. Look to yourself, not The Man. I only respect people who have made an effort to make my life better — people like my parents and relatives, family friends, and school friends. Only some teachers can really earn my respect, if they go beyond the requirements of their jobs.
Church
November 5th, 2010, 08:53 PM
Respect is only good if you earn it, I earned mine within JROTC and I only respect teachers who do something that I see is outstanding in their job to deserve my respect.
TopGear
November 5th, 2010, 09:07 PM
I agree 100% respect is something that for me must be earned. A love that note, I wish there were more people out like that. I believe Authority should be questioned, but to a limit. If no one questioned Authority then the world as we know it would be totally different.
Amnesiac
November 5th, 2010, 09:10 PM
I agree 100% respect is something that for me must be earned. A love that note, I wish there were more people out like that. I believe Authority should be questioned, but to a limit. If no one questioned Authority then the world as we know it would be totally different.
http://kelseybrongo.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/1984.159211540_std.png
Indeed it would.
Bougainvillea
November 5th, 2010, 09:11 PM
I have a level of respect for everyone. But if I get wronged by you, or you do something that I find personally, or even generally disrespectful, that level of respect will lower. And same thing for raising that respect. I have a certain respect for my elders, and authority figures. Because I was raised that way. To me, it's common decency. But of course, if I don't get that amount of respect back. Then I most certainly won't respect you.
Amnesiac
November 5th, 2010, 09:57 PM
I have a level of respect for everyone. But if I get wronged by you, or you do something that I find personally, or even generally disrespectful, that level of respect will lower. And same thing for raising that respect. I have a certain respect for my elders, and authority figures. Because I was raised that way. To me, it's common decency. But of course, if I don't get that amount of respect back. Then I most certainly won't respect you.
I think there's a difference between being polite and having respect for someone. I'm polite to everyone. That doesn't mean I'll respect them — I'll be nice to a teacher like I would to anyone, but I won't actually respect them until they go beyond the "call of duty" and do something that really helps me. Having a job doesn't mean you get respect.
TopGear
November 5th, 2010, 10:00 PM
Don't get me wrong, I do have large amount of respect for the elderly, Police Officers, Fire Fighters and EMT for what they do for public everyday. I have a Huge amount of respect for our troops. So much so, That I gave my airline ticket up for one so he could go see his first born child be brought into this world, And I would do it again if that situation came again.
Bougainvillea
November 5th, 2010, 10:13 PM
I'm different. I do hold that respect for teachers, and authority figures. But don't get me wrong. I will question their methods as I see fit. And I have before. And guess what. I pretty much always get treated with respect. But there are fuck heads out there who can't bring themselves to be generally respectful or even just polite. Or people who have an impulse to rebel and can't follow simple rules. And decide to be assbags. :)
closed
November 6th, 2010, 10:34 AM
I believe that everyone should be respected as a default. later, with the actions of the person you know if to respect him\her more or less. So yeah, if you want to be respected like Don Corleone you should work for it, but everyone should be respected since they are human.
Syvelocin
November 6th, 2010, 11:41 AM
^ That's how I also work. I respect people to start, and will respect them more or less as I see fit. I treat my professors with great respect, though that can be a little different than high school teachers, but I still think people deserve respect until they do something that makes them not worthy of that level of respect.
The Madman
November 6th, 2010, 11:54 AM
( If i repeat anything its because I skipped right to the bottom )
I completely agree.
Respect should be earned. I honestly hate people ( mostly teachers ) who demand respect. To get respect you have to give it first.
E.G : This teacher was shouting at me and I just sat down and ignored him, then he spoke in a more civil tone to me and i treated him the same way.
Stupid people demanding respect for free.
BuryYourFlame
November 6th, 2010, 11:57 AM
In the instance of authority, I generally base it on the principle of, until they have done something to lose your respect, they deserve it.
Amnesiac
November 6th, 2010, 12:41 PM
^ That's how I also work. I respect people to start, and will respect them more or less as I see fit. I treat my professors with great respect, though that can be a little different than high school teachers, but I still think people deserve respect until they do something that makes them not worthy of that level of respect.
I see it differently. I'm polite and courteous to everyone. That's just a societal norm, to be nice to people who haven't done anything bad to you. However, nobody truly has my upmost respect until they go out of their way to do something nice for me that they otherwise wouldn't have to do.
Teachers are just doing what they're paid to do, that not enough to merit the respect I give to people like my parents and friends.
closed
November 6th, 2010, 01:28 PM
^ That's how I also work. I respect people to start, and will respect them more or less as I see fit. I treat my professors with great respect, though that can be a little different than high school teachers, but I still think people deserve respect until they do something that makes them not worthy of that level of respect.
Your teacher isn't your friend. He\She has more saying than you, more influence, and not to mention that he\she is older than you. Teachers have the right to yell at you, and it's your duty to respect them.
The whole world goes through a trasition and tries to make us look at authorized personal as our equivalents, but they aren't! especiall at school. If you met your teacher on the street and he\she yelled at you, then i'll understand you.
Amnesiac
November 6th, 2010, 01:30 PM
Your teacher isn't your friend. He\She has more saying than you, more influence, and not to mention that he\she is older than you. Teachers have the right to yell at you, and it's your duty to respect them.
The whole world goes through a trasition and tries to make us look at authorized personal as our equivalents, but they aren't! especiall at school. If you met your teacher on the street and he\she yelled at you, then i'll understand you.
Just because a teacher has certain rights doesn't mean I should respect them. I'll be polite, but respect is something that should be reserved for people close to you, not just random adults that are assigned to teach you.
Besides, I hate authority. As long as there's limits on it, though, I'll abide by it.
TopGear
November 6th, 2010, 01:32 PM
Well agree there is a difference between being polite and showing/giving respect to someone. I try to be polite to everyone I come into contact with, but that doesn't me Im going to give them respect. There are only a few groups of forces that earn a higher level of respect from me, that would be Police, Fire Fighters, EMT's, and All Military service men and women. Only reason is for what they have done and how they put their life's on the line for me and the rest of the community.
Peace God
November 6th, 2010, 04:09 PM
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4601/horrible.jpg
lol, i would be so proud if that was my kid
Theatheist of doom
November 6th, 2010, 04:54 PM
Ugh, this comes up so many times in my life because I'm so stubborn and argumentative... I agree with the respect is earned thing but I still think even if you do respect somone you should still call them out if they're wrong
Sith Lord 13
November 7th, 2010, 04:46 AM
I have two levels of respect one is the basic level. Don't insult someone, don't attack them, address them with a level of politeness and decorum etc. This is granted to all people until such time they forfeit it. There is also the higher level of respect, where I take their opinion above my own, show deference, etc. This is a sliding scale, which is completely earned.
Fact
November 7th, 2010, 08:41 AM
I agree that respect is earned, and if I heard a professor say something I knew to be false I would definitely call them out.
This is an appropriate image I think:
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4601/horrible.jpg
I think I read earlier that someone said they'd be proud of this was their kid in the letter. I agree completely.
For me, people who are complete idiots don't deserve 'respect' just because of their position.
e.g. teachers who've gone to university or whatever and then outwardly talk complete nonsense in the classroom.
Yeah, okay, teachers have to be knowledgeable in their field of work (although I've come across some who aren't..) but if they say something that is just plain wrong, as shown in that picture, then doesn't that prove their insolence?
If I was that teacher, then I'd have laughed it off and just thanked the student for correcting me because I was a fool on that occasion...
... 300th post ^^ yay!
Ender
November 7th, 2010, 08:44 AM
I think respect should be given, to a point. If it comes to a point where they no longer deserve it, they wont have it.
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