LimeWire is Dead

[Lifeguard18]

Ok guys. Most of you have probably known that LimeWire is NOW DEAD! The RIAA finally go to them.

On October 26, 2010, Judge Kimba Wood, a US federal court judge, issued an injunction forcing LimeWire to prevent "the searching, downloading, uploading, file trading and/or file distribution functionality, and/or all functionality" of its software. A trial investigating the damages necessary to compensate the affected record labels is scheduled to begin in January 2011. (source: Wikipedia)

Who would have thought this was going to happen. I knew it was going to happen sooner or later. The RIAA has been on Limewire's ass trying for years to shut it down, it finally happened.

Of course, there are alternatives. The RIAA has victory of shutting down limewire, but they still have a long way to go to shut all illegal file sharing sites and programs.

And btw, limewire always sucked and was always full of unwanted viruses.

AND DO NOT DISCUSS WHERE TO FIND MUSIC DOWNLOADS! THAT IS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AND ITS AGAINST THE RULES!

[jcfla9]

I hate this! I don't know where to get free iPod music anymore :(

[Ender]

I hate this! I don't know where to get free iPod music anymore :(

How bout you pay the $0.99/song? lol

My dad was pissed bout the death of limewire, and went to frostwire. I'm waiting for the FBI to bust through the windows -_-

[DarkHorses]

I use torrent websites, it's much better anyways because you can actually download whole albums and it takes a lot less time. I used limewire occasionally but I never liked it very much, so I honestly don't really care.

I know it's illegal and everything, but I don't have the money to be spending on music. I listen to so much stuff that if I had to buy all of it then it would cost tons.

[Amnesiac]

About damn time, Limewire was shit. Full of fake child porn and viruses. If people want to download music illegally, they should do it in a classier way.

If it took the RIAA and the government this long to get to Limewire, it'll take them years to take down the torrent sites.

[jcfla9]

I use torrent websites, it's much better anyways because you can actually download whole albums and it takes a lot less time. I used limewire occasionally but I never liked it very much, so I honestly don't really care.

I know it's illegal and everything, but I don't have the money to be spending on music. I listen to so much stuff that if I had to buy all of it then it would cost tons.
Can you give an example of a torrent site XD

[Perseus]

Can you give an example of a torrent site XD

Against rules, buddyroo. You wanna get him banned? :P

[DarkHorses]

Against rules, buddyroo. You wanna get him banned? :P

I figured it probably was. And I'm a she. :D xD

[Ender]

Against rules, buddyroo. You wanna get him banned? :P

Yeah, wtf James. I love this place. xD

[Sugaree]

How bout you pay the $0.99/song?

And where do you think that money goes to? The artist? It goes to the record companies to put out more bullshit. If you can get it for free, why waste the funds?

I use torrent websites, it's much better anyways because you can actually download whole albums and it takes a lot less time.

With torrents, it usually depends. If I want something quick, I just look up a mediafire or rapidshare link. But I've gotten most of my stuff via torrent.

I hate this! I don't know where to get free iPod music anymore :(

Just do some google searching for tips, faqs, and user guides. It's pretty simple.

I'm not affected by limewire going. It was filled to the brim with viruses and porn. It was a useless service to begin with. I agree with Darth on this one. If it took the RIAA this long to get to limewire, it'll be a long time before they get to the millions of torrent sites.

[Perseus]

I figured it probably was. And I'm a she. :D xD

I thought he was asking Ender or somebody. My b.

[Number02]

Can you give an example of a torrent site XD

I hate to play mod here, but seriously... No! D:

I'm SO glad Limewire finally got shut down, and I can only hope that the torrents get raped for it soon enough..

Being a musician who earns sweet FA, I feel pretty strongly about music piracy.

[Lifeguard18]

Can you give an example of a torrent site XD

i said DO NOT discuss where to find music downloads.

[Amnesiac]

I'm not affected by limewire going. It was filled to the brim with viruses and porn. It was a useless service to begin with. I agree with Darth on this one. If it took the RIAA this long to get to limewire, it'll be a long time before they get to the millions of torrent sites.

Thanks for your agreement :P

In addition, most torrent sites are located in other countries, which creates a large-scale international legal problem for the American record companies. If I'm right, The Pirate Bay is supposed to be offline, but thanks to legal problems they could stay online for years until their case goes to court.

[JackOfClubs]

I guess it sucks for everyone that used it. I never used it though. I either buy my music or get it from my friends.

[Perseus]

get it from my friends.

That's illegal, too. :P

[ShyGuyInChicago]

This is good. Sites like Limewire are just a form of stealing.

[jcfla9]

I figured it probably was. And I'm a she. :D xD
I'm new lol sorry.

And I already tried that. -_-

[Amnesiac]

This is good. Sites like Limewire are just a form of stealing.

Technically, no. Stealing requires that the original object or, in this case, file be taken from someone else. In pirating, it's being copied, not removed from other computers.

That's illegal, too. :P

If I'm correct, the RIAA sues over this kind of sharing more often.

[Sugaree]

In addition, most torrent sites are located in other countries, which creates a large-scale international legal problem for the American record companies. If I'm right, The Pirate Bay is supposed to be offline, but thanks to legal problems they could stay online for years until their case goes to court.

The Pirate Bay's servers are located in Sweden I believe (or at least until the huge banning of the site IN Sweden last year). The only way the RIAA could take down torrent or sharing sites is if the servers are in their domain. Which means they wouldn't take out a third of the actual total of sites out there. Face it, people will find ways to get music for free. You can't stop them.

This is good. Sites like Limewire are just a form of stealing.

Wrong. Stealing is the forceful taking of one object from another person. In most cases, things are put on torrent and sharing sites because someone buys the actual object, copies it, and then puts it out on the web. This is not stealing, it is sharing. There is a major difference.

[Lifeguard18]

This is good. Sites like Limewire are just a form of stealing.

its going to be a long long time before everything is shut down, which probably wont happen. if the RIAA shut down the entire Gnutella network, all i can say is hell will break loose and the RIAA has ANOTHER victory.

[Amnesiac]

The Pirate Bay's servers are located in Sweden I believe (or at least until the huge banning of the site IN Sweden last year). The only way the RIAA could take down torrent or sharing sites is if the servers are in their domain. Which means they wouldn't take out a third of the actual total of sites out there. Face it, people will find ways to get music for free. You can't stop them.

I know The Pirate Bay's servers were raided back in 2006. It's legal complications in Sweden's judicial system that are keeping them alive.

Even if there were some international treaty designed to stop pirating (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement), people would just move their servers to non-complying nations. It's impossible to stop, just like terrorism.

[Perseus]

If I'm correct, the RIAA sues over this kind of sharing more often.

Wtf, how can they actually find out when people do that?

[DarkHorses]

It's impossible to stop, just like terrorism.

Interesting comparison. :P

[Amnesiac]

Interesting comparison. :P

It's true :rolleyes: Terrorism is like pirating. Both are extremely difficult and costly to eradicate, to the point where it's not possible.

Wtf, how can they actually find out when people do that?

I honestly don't know. It's creepy, though.

People who give out music to friends usually gain a reputation in their community, and the RIAA picks up on that.

[Sugaree]

People who give out music to friends usually gain a reputation in their community, and the RIAA picks up on that.

In other words, "Don't steal our thunder". The RIAA think they got big dicks for being some type of "protector of artist rights" when they only make it worse. If artists followed the examples of Trent Reznor, who has been very outspoken about record companies, you would see less of this.

[Perseus]

People who give out music to friends usually gain a reputation in their community, and the RIAA picks up on that.

Wow.

[Amnesiac]

In other words, "Don't steal our thunder". The RIAA think they got big dicks for being some type of "protector of artist rights" when they only make it worse. If artists followed the examples of Trent Reznor, who has been very outspoken about record companies, you would see less of this.

Amazingly, there are artists who actually support the record companies. Example: Gene Simmons of KISS, who suggested that artists should sue the fuck out of their fans.

Hopefully the future will result in record companies dying off and artists going independent.

Wow.

They have money to throw at this problem. Where do they get it? From ripping off the artists.

[Lifeguard18]

It's true :rolleyes: Terrorism is like pirating. Both are extremely difficult and costly to eradicate, to the point where it's not possible.



I honestly don't know. It's creepy, though.

People who give out music to friends usually gain a reputation in their community, and the RIAA picks up on that.

Some of my friends told me some interesting stories:

A year and a half ago, my friend told me that the police or the fbi, i forget which, called his house and gave him a warning to stop using limewire. If not, he would have to pay a fine and they would come over and take his computer.

My friend, she told me that her friend was caught using limwire, was arrested, and had to pay a REALLY HEFTY FINE!

A few years ago, my friend said he had a man knock on his door and said, i just need to see your computer for a couple of minutes. he went to his computer, and starting to take pictures of all the activity he has downloaded on limewire. when he was done, my friend said that he said, thank you. he didnt tell me anything about a fine or being arrested.

A lot of crazy shit happens.

[Amnesiac]

Some of my friends told me some interesting stories:

A year and a half ago, my friend told me that the police or the fbi, i forget which, called his house and gave him a warning to stop using limewire. If not, he would have to pay a fine and they would come over and take his computer.

My friend, she told me that her friend was caught using limwire, was arrested, and had to pay a REALLY HEFTY FINE!

A few years ago, my friend said he had a man knock on his door and said, i just need to see your computer for a couple of minutes. he went to his computer, and starting to take pictures of all the activity he has downloaded on limewire. when he was done, my friend said that he said, thank you. he didnt tell me anything about a fine or being arrested.

A lot of crazy shit happens.

I thought the FBI only put that kind of effort into stuff like child porn. Also, nobody should be stupid enough to let someone take pictures of their computer without evidence that they're actually from the FBI.

It's easy for the FBI to track downloaders and uploaders over P2P services like Limewire. Torrents, however, work differently and are harder to trace.

[Lifeguard18]

I thought the FBI only put that kind of effort into stuff like child porn. Also, nobody should be stupid enough to let someone take pictures of their computer without evidence that they're actually from the FBI.

It's easy for the FBI to track downloaders and uploaders over P2P services like Limewire. Torrents, however, work differently and are harder to trace.

i thought that too. but everything on limewire, p2p programs, torrents, is illegal. the fbi can track anybody, unless people are really smart on hiding their identity. and when he told me that story, i was a little confused at first. i was told that back in 2008, cause he also said that his dad also used it. i dont remember it all. but i do remember him saying that he took pics and said he needs to see his computer.

[JackOfClubs]

That's illegal, too. :P
Oh I know. But how are they going to know whether I bought the CD or not :P

[Amnesiac]

i thought that too. but everything on limewire, p2p programs, torrents, is illegal. the fbi can track anybody, unless people are really smart on hiding their identity. and when he told me that story, i was a little confused at first. i was told that back in 2008, cause he also said that his dad also used it. i dont remember it all. but i do remember him saying that he took pics and said he needs to see his computer.

Interesting. Now that almost all pirating will be switching to torrents, though, the FBI will have much more trouble finding people.

[JackOfClubs]

i thought that too. but everything on limewire, p2p programs, torrents, is illegal. the fbi can track anybody, unless people are really smart on hiding their identity. and when he told me that story, i was a little confused at first. i was told that back in 2008, cause he also said that his dad also used it. i dont remember it all. but i do remember him saying that he took pics and said he needs to see his computer.
The red part is not true. There are plenty of things you can download through torrents that are completely legal. Free operating systems, free programs, etc. Sometimes torrents are a faster way to download things.

The rest I agree with. My internet was suspended once for certain 'activities.'

[AppleBoy]

I say good. Especially when you can buy whole albums for just $9.99 on iTunes.

[Sugaree]

I say good. Especially when you can buy whole albums for just $9.99 on iTunes.

Do you even KNOW where the money goes? You probably think that whole ten dollars goes to the artist right?

[AppleBoy]

Of course I know. 15% goes to Apple, and the rest goes to the record company.

What you seem to not recognize is that the record companies pay a large amount of money to make more songs.

[Kahn]

I hate to play mod here, but seriously... No! D:
.

No back-seat modding, sir.

No discussing torrent sites. We don't promote illegal activity.

Limewire sucked anyway.

[Brighter.Tomorrow]

LimeWire sucked, I had it on my computer for a week and my computer nearly died. I use a few different sites to get my music. =]

[Sugaree]

Of course I know. 15% goes to Apple, and the rest goes to the record company.

What you seem to not recognize is that the record companies pay a large amount of money to make more songs.

Which then goes to more artists to put out more songs. It's wasteful spending of money.

[Number02]

Which then goes to more artists to put out more songs. It's wasteful spending of money.

How is paying artists to produce songs a waste of money?

[Sugaree]

How is paying artists to produce songs a waste of money?

Because it's unfair treatment to the artist. Working nonstop for little to no pay. The only money the artists get are on concert performances, and the total they make from that isn't even double on what the record companies make on their songs. If an artist was paid half of the total sales of their songs/albums and the record company was paid half, I'd reconsider my stance. These artists need to make a living too, and sure they make a lot on live performances, but they could still make more. It's the record companies being greedy bastards. Sue 'em, that's what I say.

[Number02]

Ahhh, NOW you're making sense. Just saying 'Paying the artists is a waste of money' is evry confusing, y'know.

But I agree. So much more could go back to so many bands who deserve it..