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nick
November 3rd, 2010, 03:13 AM
A 10 year-old girl has given birth in southern Spain and authorities are evaluating whether to let her and her family retain custody of the baby.

The baby was born last week in the city of Jerez de la Frontera, said Micaela Navarro, the Andalusia region's social affairs minister.

Miss Navarro said the father of the baby is also a minor, and both the mother and the baby were in good health. Her department declined to give details, including the sex of the baby, but said authorities do not consider this a case of rape and that no criminal investigation is under way.

Under Spanish law, having consensual sex with someone under age 13 is classified as child abuse, an official with the Spanish Justice Ministry in Madrid said. But this particular case is complicated by the fact that the father of the baby is also a minor and it is not clear if he could be charged, the official said.

Spanish newspapers said the mother is of Romanian origin.

Diario de Jerez reported the girl was already pregnant when she arrived in Spain, but did not say when she came to this country. It is not clear if the father is in Spain.

Medical experts warn that because young girls are still growing, they are at higher risk during pregnancy. Studies have shown that teenage girls are more likely to give birth to premature babies and their infants have a higher chance of dying by age one.


Source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/8105960/10-year-old-gives-birth-in-Spain.html)

Magus
November 3rd, 2010, 03:32 AM
Ten... with a minor... Kids, adding it to my collection!

Medical Experts forget to add that when a girl of this age is giving birth or if she is pregnant, she could get fistula (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obstetric_fistula).

Perseus
November 3rd, 2010, 06:12 AM
Obviously the kid who did this should get his shit rocked since it's his fault. I mean really. Who would honestly want to have sex with a ten year old? Was he that desperate?

steve1234
November 3rd, 2010, 08:39 AM
Obviously the kid who did this should get his shit rocked since it's his fault. I mean really. Who would honestly want to have sex with a ten year old? Was he that desperate?

Can we prove it was his fault? The article does say he was a minor as well, I don't know if that includes teen years up to 18, or if its up to 13 years old. Obviously it was partly his fault, but wouldn't some blame be put on the mother. I know she might not have concented or she might not really know about sex, but she might have known what she was doing...the article isn't really clear about that.


10 years old is just ridiculous. I was still playing Pokemon, and i don't think I really even knew what sex was at that point....

karl
November 3rd, 2010, 09:08 AM
The boy who fathered the baby born to a 10-year-old girl in Spain is just 13 himself, relatives revealed today.
The Romanian youngster, called Elena, became one of the world's youngest mothers when she gave birth to a 6lbs 6oz baby last week at a hospital in Jerez, Spain.
She has called her child, a baby girl born naturally, Nicoletta.
Her relatives revealed she is no longer seeing the boy and gave more details of the astonishing birth.

Elena flew to Spain from Romania just three weeks ago to give birth and attend a family wedding.
They are now staying with relatives at a flat in Lebrija, a walled town of around 25,000 inhabitants between Jerez and Seville in the country's south-west.


The shabby-looking three-storey brick building in the centre of the town is home to dozens of Romanian and south American immigrants.
Neither mother or child, who come from a gypsy family and are expected to stay indoors for 40 days in accordance with local tradition, have been seen in public.
But the baby's grandmother, Olimpia, said the family were feeling 'ecstatic.'
She said: 'Elena and Nicoletta will stay in Spain because her relationship with the baby's father has ended. They've separated.

'Elena is very happy with her child. We're very happy, for us it's not a drama.

'These things are normal in our country. Girls get married at 10 so we don't understand why people are so surprised.'

Part of Elena's family are believed to make ends meet by begging. Others allegedly sell scrap metal.

Social services are still deciding whether to let Nicoletta stay with her mum - but have already indicated they will not separate them if they feel both minors are happy.


Micaela Navarro, Minister for Equality and Social Affairs at the regional Andalusian government, said they only become aware of the case from hospital staff three days after the birth.

She said: 'The important thing is that both mother and baby are cared for perfectly.

'If that is the case, they can remain in the family environment, which is what we are checking at the moment.'
A source at Jerez Hospital, where the birth took place on October 26, said: 'The girl's mother told us the girl lived with her boyfriend in her home country.

'There are girls who can appear older than they are, but in this case the girl is just that: a girl.'


In 2008, 177 children were born to girls aged 14 or under in the province of Andalusia.

The age of consent in Spain is 13 and 14-year-olds are allowed to marry with a judge's permission.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326193/Father-baby-born-gypsy-girl-10-Spain-13-year-old-boy.html#ixzz14ED7hvtm

Jess
November 3rd, 2010, 09:53 AM
It's probably normal in some countries for kids that young to have children. but 10 years old is so young....

Perseus
November 3rd, 2010, 04:05 PM
Can we prove it was his fault? The article does say he was a minor as well, I don't know if that includes teen years up to 18, or if its up to 13 years old. Obviously it was partly his fault, but wouldn't some blame be put on the mother. I know she might not have concented or she might not really know about sex, but she might have known what she was doing...the article isn't really clear about that.


10 years old is just ridiculous. I was still playing Pokemon, and i don't think I really even knew what sex was at that point....

I doubt a ten year old girl will pressure a thirteen year old into sex.

Amnesiac
November 3rd, 2010, 04:11 PM
I doubt a ten year old girl will pressure a thirteen year old into sex.

Hell, I'm surprised they even did it successfully. I don't really have any words to describe this case.

Perseus
November 3rd, 2010, 04:13 PM
Hell, I'm surprised they even did it successfully. I don't really have any words to describe this case.

I'm pretty sure the thirteen year old knew what went where. :rolleyes:

Amnesiac
November 3rd, 2010, 04:14 PM
I'm pretty sure the thirteen year old knew what went where. :rolleyes:

I'm surprised the 10-year-old went along. Pretty sick stuff.

Kids these days :rolleyes:

Perseus
November 3rd, 2010, 04:17 PM
I'm surprised the 10-year-old went along. Pretty sick stuff.

Kids these days :rolleyes:

I dunno about you, but I wouldn't pass up free sex at ten. :P

nick
November 3rd, 2010, 04:19 PM
Ten years old is sick in my opinion. Even if the girl was biologically mature enough (which obviously she was) it doesnt mean the physically she was ready for childbirth. And you can argue that a 3 year age difference is small but having sex with a 10 year old girl is difficult to accept in most societies. She could even have been 9 when the conception occured.

I my opinion the fact that it may be normal in some societies doesnt make it any easier to accept or think its right.

Amnesiac
November 3rd, 2010, 04:35 PM
I dunno about you, but I wouldn't pass up free sex at ten. :P

Hell, when I was 10 I didn't know shit about sex.

Fiction
November 3rd, 2010, 04:54 PM
That's young... but I don't think that makes taking her baby away from her justified. If her and her baby are happy then leave them be. It's not right to go taking babies away from anyone unless the baby is in danger.

Perseus
November 3rd, 2010, 04:57 PM
Hell, when I was 10 I didn't know shit about sex.

I knew what sex was, but I didn't know anything besides that. But I would not have(yes, I wouldn't have since I was a prude. :P) passed up free sex. :P

Amnesiac
November 3rd, 2010, 05:47 PM
I knew what sex was, but I didn't know anything besides that. But I would not have(yes, I would have since I was a prude. :P) passed up free sex. :P

I can't honestly say what I'd do back then. I know now I wouldn't pass it up though :P

ShyGuyInChicago
November 3rd, 2010, 05:51 PM
Where were this girl's parents?

Perseus
November 3rd, 2010, 05:56 PM
I can't honestly say what I'd do back then. I know now I wouldn't pass it up though :P

Fuck... I forgot a letter in my parenthesis sentence that makes it not make any sense.

Amnesiac
November 3rd, 2010, 06:02 PM
Fuck... I forgot a letter in my parenthesis sentence that makes it not make any sense.

You need to work on your writing skills, bro.

Perseus
November 3rd, 2010, 06:04 PM
You need to work on your writing skills, bro.

Shush. D:<

Proofreading is for nubs.

JackOfClubs
November 3rd, 2010, 06:36 PM
Who the hell fucks a 10 year old girl? Thats just nasty.

Mr. Awesome
November 3rd, 2010, 06:41 PM
Who the hell fucks a 10 year old girl? Thats just nasty.

I read somewhere today that it was a 13 year old boy that she was arranged to be married to, in (Romanian)Roma Gypsy culture. It was in a newspaper that had the story from the girls mother(apparently)

Sith Lord 13
November 6th, 2010, 11:43 AM
Ten years old is sick in my opinion. Even if the girl was biologically mature enough (which obviously she was) it doesnt mean the physically she was ready for childbirth. And you can argue that a 3 year age difference is small but having sex with a 10 year old girl is difficult to accept in most societies. She could even have been 9 when the conception occured.

I my opinion the fact that it may be normal in some societies doesnt make it any easier to accept or think its right.

Values dissonance. What makes your standards better than theirs?

Love.Hate
November 6th, 2010, 01:19 PM
WOW, really? jeezz. 10 is so young, when i was 10 i first learnt about sex
and everyone was like eww, and really embarrased. i was still playing with barbie dolls!

They shouldnt take her baby off her because the baby isnt in any danger,
but how was the girl able to have sex at that age?!? was she not with her parents?

:0

AnimeLover1991
November 13th, 2010, 09:06 PM
Kids giving birth at 10? What is this world coming to? Are we seriously so sexed up in our younger years now? This is outrageous to me.