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The Ninja
October 26th, 2010, 06:51 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/26/obama-appoints-record-number-gay-officials/

WASHINGTON -- Less than halfway through his first term, President Barack Obama has appointed more openly gay officials than any other president in history.

Gay activists say the estimate of more than 150 appointments so far -- from agency heads and commission members to policy officials and senior staffers -- surpasses the previous high of about 140 reached during two full terms under President Bill Clinton.

"From everything we hear from inside the administration, they wanted this to be part of their efforts at diversity," said Denis Dison, spokesman for the Presidential Appointments Project of the Gay & Lesbian Leadership Institute.

The pace of appointments has helped to ease broader disappointment among gay rights groups that Obama has not acted more quickly on other fronts, such as ending the "don't ask, don't tell" policy that bans gays from serving openly in the military.

In a sign of how times have changed, few of the appointees -- about two dozen required Senate confirmation -- have stirred much controversy. It's a far cry from the 1993 furor surrounding Clinton's nomination of then-San Francisco Supervisor Roberta Achtenberg as assistant secretary for Housing and Urban Development.

Achtenberg was the first openly gay official to serve at such a senior level, and she won confirmation despite contentious hearings and Sen. Jesse Helms, R-N.C., who denounced her as a "militant extremist."

"It's both significant and rather ordinary," said Michael Cole, a spokesman for the gay rights group Human Rights Campaign. "It's a simple affirmation of the American ideal that what matters is how you do your job and not who you are."

Gay activists, among Obama's strongest supporters, had hoped he would be the first to appoint an openly gay Cabinet secretary. While that hasn't happened -- yet -- Obama did appoint the highest-ranking gay official ever when he named John Berry as director of the Office of Personnel Management, which oversees the nation's 1.9 million federal workers.

Other prominent names include Nancy Sutley, chairwoman of the White House Council on Environmental Quality, and Fred Hochberg, chairman of the Export-Import Bank. Obama also named Amanda Simpson, the first openly transgender appointee, as a senior technical adviser in the Commerce Department.

White House spokesman Shin Inouye confirmed the record number, saying Obama has hired more gay officials than the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations combined. He said Obama "is proud that his appointments reflect the diversity of the American public."

"He is committed to appointing highly qualified individuals for each post," Inouye said. "We have made a record number of openly LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender) appointments and we are confident that this number will only continue to grow."

Dison's group lists 124 of the appointees on its website. He said the remainder are not listed because they are lower-level officials not formally announced by the White House.

"We learn about a lot of these through informal networks and then work to confirm that they are indeed appointed and that they are openly LGBT," Dison said.

One Obama nominee who met some opposition was Chai Feldblum, a Georgetown University law professor nominated to serve on the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

Concerned Women for America accused Feldblum of playing "a major role in pushing the homosexual and transsexual agenda on Americans." Other conservative groups blasted her role in drafting the Employment Nondiscrimination Act, a bill that would ban employers from discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity. Obama is a strong supporter of that legislation.

Obama made Feldblum a recess appointment in March after an anonymous hold in the Senate held up her confirmation for months.

Another target for conservatives was Kevin Jennings, founder of the Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network, who was named to oversee the Education Department's Office of Safe & Drug Free Schools. More than 50 House Republicans asked Obama to remove Jennings from the post after reports surfaced about advice he gave more than 20 years earlier after learning a gay student had sex with an older man.

Jennings conceded that he should have consulted medical or legal authorities instead of telling the 15-year-old boy that he hoped he had used a condom. The Obama administration defended Jennings and declined to remove him.

It was in early 2008 that the Gay & Lesbian Leadership Institute focused its Presidential Appointments Project on steering thousands of resumes of qualified gay professionals to White House jobs. Dison said that push has helped increase the numbers, though it certainly helped to have a more receptive White House.

Cole, of the Human Rights Campaign, called the increase a welcome development, but said there is more focus on real legislative gains, such as ending "don't ask, don't tell" and repealing the Defense of Marriage Act, which prohibits federal recognition of same-sex partnerships.

"For a community that is denied their equality, there will continue to be frustration at the pace of change," he said.

I personally have no problem with obama appointing gay officials. My problem is that he's doing it for the wrong reason. He's doing it so that he can gain the gay (lesbian, etc) vote. So what do you think.

Sith Lord 13
October 26th, 2010, 09:59 PM
I think it shouldn't matter if an appointee is gay or straight. True equality won't come by hiring someone for being gay any more than from firing someone for being gay. I feel the entire spin of this article, in fact the very fact that it was written, makes gays less ordinary people and more a separate group of people.

Whisper
October 26th, 2010, 10:16 PM
i think it matters a great deal and is awesome because the fact of the matter is gays ARE ostracized allot especially if they're open about it.
its integration
the only way you integrate a people is to have them actively involved in government
its remained true all throughout history
why should this be treated any different

The Joker
October 27th, 2010, 02:04 AM
Gay activists, among Obama's strongest supporters, had hoped he would be the first to appoint an openly gay Cabinet secretary.

adgsudhgh. Seriously? How about electing whoever is best fit for the role?

Whisper
October 27th, 2010, 01:51 PM
adgsudhgh. Seriously? How about electing whoever is best fit for the role?
See the problem with that simplistic mentality although it seems like basic common sense is REALLY open to interpretation.
Thats like saying whoever is best fit to be president should be president, I guarantee you, nobody will agree.

Clawhammer
October 27th, 2010, 02:03 PM
The government should have more concerns than sexuality.

The Ninja
October 27th, 2010, 06:39 PM
does anyone agree with me though that obama is just doing this so tha he can get the gay vote.

Syvelocin
October 27th, 2010, 07:12 PM
does anyone agree with me though that obama is just doing this so tha he can get the gay vote.

It's an interesting card to play, but I do see that. He was also one of the last people to make an It Gets Better video. Maybe if he chooses a gay running mate for '12 I'll fully believe that's his goal, but it's a good minority to win over for votes.

Fiction
October 27th, 2010, 08:33 PM
Does it really matter? Why is it relevent if someone is gay or not? They are people :S

Amnesiac
October 27th, 2010, 10:10 PM
I don't see why anyone should give a fuck about this. A job in government shouldn't be based on sexuality — it's about actual qualifications. Mayor of Houston Annise Parker didn't get elected because she's a out-of-the-closet lesbian, she got elected because of her experience (history in city government) and visions for Houston.

I understand that gays aren't the most-loved group in America right now, but that doesn't mean we should be giving them jobs just because they were naturally born homosexuals.

Strength
October 27th, 2010, 10:16 PM
adgsudhgh. Seriously? How about electing whoever is best fit for the role?

QFT

another good reason why things like alfrimitive action are total BS.

The Joker
October 28th, 2010, 03:17 AM
See the problem with that simplistic mentality although it seems like basic common sense is REALLY open to interpretation.
Thats like saying whoever is best fit to be president should be president, I guarantee you, nobody will agree.

Huh? Could you elaborate?

The Ninja
October 28th, 2010, 06:35 PM
Does it really matter? Why is it relevent if someone is gay or not? They are people :S

obama is the closest thing to a black president. I hate to say this but I have a feeling that a majority of obamas votes were from black people or black supporters. My point is that black people are just people and yet it did affect the amount of obama's votes. the same thing would happen with gays if for instance obama chose a gay running mate.

Perseus
October 28th, 2010, 06:58 PM
obama is the closest thing to a black president. I hate to say this but I have a feeling that a majority of obamas votes were from black people or black supporters. My point is that black people are just people and yet it did affect the amount of obama's votes. the same thing would happen with gays if for instance obama chose a gay running mate.

Not entirely since blacks make up only thirteen percent of the population. Did it help? Yes. Was it the breaking point? No.

The Ninja
October 28th, 2010, 08:37 PM
Not entirely since blacks make up only thirteen percent of the population. Did it help? Yes. Was it the breaking point? No.

Well that just proves that the other people that did vote for him are complete idiots.

Perseus
October 29th, 2010, 06:23 AM
Well that just proves that the other people that did vote for him are complete idiots.

What? Why the fuck does everyone call people who voted for Obama idiots? This if getting on my fucking nerves, just like conservative jackasses like Shaun Hannedy who use liberal as a derogatory statement. Just because someone voted for someone you don't fucking care for doesn't make them idiots. I don't see America crumbling into pieces because of Obama. You're the idiot.

The Red Devil
October 29th, 2010, 06:46 AM
As far as I'm concerned, who gives a shit what their sexual orietation is. If their the best person for the job, then they should get the job. End of story. Sadly that isnt how things are always done. In fact that very rarely how there done.

Whisper
October 29th, 2010, 06:45 PM
The government should have more concerns than sexuality.

Its not about sexuality, at its core its about equality.
Thats like some one hundred and fifty million american citizens are female but there has never been a female president, and for the longest time even up to and including today girls are HORRIBLY underrepresented in government, so if its just about "whoever is best for the job" then based on said logic women must be intellectually inferior? why else would there be such a statistical gap? MAYBE, just maybe its the glass ceiling and the stigmatization they face in the workforce and they are in fact more that capable and would excell greatly at the job but because of their gender they're never given the chance

It isn't just about sexuality its about confronting the stigmatization (stereotype, prejudice, discrimination).
Everyones like PICK WHOEVER'S BEST FOR THE JOB...for all we know that person is the best for the job but in allot of other previous administrations do to the stigma surrounding their sexuality they would be DENIED the job.

Lonely_Shadow
October 29th, 2010, 07:02 PM
What? Why the fuck does everyone call people who voted for Obama idiots? This if getting on my fucking nerves, just like conservative jackasses like Shaun Hannedy who use liberal as a derogatory statement. Just because someone voted for someone you don't fucking care for doesn't make them idiots. I don't see America crumbling into pieces because of Obama. You're the idiot.
Well I'm not going to say idiots to the people who voted for him but the heath care bill he is going to pass will cost small businesses and larger businesses to lose profit. The costs of these provisions of mandatory health care in businesses are offset by a variety of taxes, fees, such as new Medicare taxes for high-income brackets. thus causing the loss of profit and the loss of jobs. is that what helping the economy means? that's one example of why Obama was not a good choice as president. sorry if that was off topic.

Amnesiac
October 29th, 2010, 07:06 PM
Well I'm not going to say idiots to the people who voted for him but the heath care bill he is going to pass will cost small businesses and larger businesses to lose profit. The costs of these provisions of mandatory health care in businesses are offset by a variety of taxes, fees, such as new Medicare taxes for high-income brackets. thus causing the loss of profit and the loss of jobs. is that what helping the economy means? that's one example of why Obama was not a good choice as president. sorry if that was off topic.

I'm not going to pull this thread off topic, but I must mention it was the Republicans who blocked the public option, which is what everyone really wanted.

Lonely_Shadow
October 29th, 2010, 07:22 PM
I'm not going to pull this thread off topic, but I must mention it was the Republicans who blocked the public option, which is what everyone really wanted.

yet that is also true im not on one side, i believe both sides make mistakes. i try to keep an open mind thinking about both side and how they should help each other strive by creating bills the people want but still can have an open opinion on it.