Personal Computer VS Gaming Console

[Azunite]

Before Consoles, games for PC ruled the age by an unquestioned power...
But her rivals came up... Console games

PC games lost power but not it's place. As new games came out, PC lost it's power to the console but maintained it's position thanks to mod communities and some " FPS / RPG are better on PC " ideas.

But what about the next 10 years? What will happen ?

Fallout 4, a new Dragon Age, Dungeon Siege 3, TES: Alinor and beyond...
Call of Duty, Bad Company, Medal of Honor ...

Who will win after 10 years of time, in your opinion, PC or Console ?

(Please vote and discuss your opinions in a detailed way, any resource about PC and Console marketing statistics is appreciated )

[CairAndros]

Both have very strong cases for out doing the other.

I suppose it will depend on the personal preference of the gamer.

With Computers you can upgrade their processing power, RAM, graphics & video cards as soon as newer, more powerful or greater capacity versions are released which will constantly keep your machine at the cutting edge of the gaming world. Gaming on a computer also has quite a nice feel to it and you get fantastic online communities for games and gamers. Also; you can take a break from gaming to chat on msn or check something on the net or w/e. You also have access to the console in most games which allows you to tweak the game in various ways. Mods also play a large part in computer based gaming - this is missing from console based games.

However consoles are advancing at a terrific rate and it is possible that in the coming decade we will see them step up to being all but gaming rig pc's in their own right. Playing with the 'pad is something a lot of people enjoy compared to the mouse & keyboard combo of the pc. However, you need to wait for a completely new console to be developed and released before any major upgrades can be done to improve graphics hardware etc.

Also; gamers on the pc get free updates in the form of patches - console gamers have to pay for these updates.

I think we are being very narrow minded in restricting ourselves to think solely in terms of pc's and consoles. Already we have 3D displays and gaming devices. Virtual Reality is also becoming a very plausible gaming technology due to vast strides being taken in the development of small, affordable units that can be used for gaming.

In the next decade it could very well be that we see the emergence of a new type of gaming platform that uses a fully immersive virtual reality environment and allows the functionality of a computer.

[Magus]

Before Consoles, games for PC ruled the age by an unquestioned power...
But her rivals came up... Console games

I don't believe you...
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/10/game_consoles/image/slide1.jpg

[Azunite]

Both have very strong cases for out doing the other.

I suppose it will depend on the personal preference of the gamer.

With Computers you can upgrade their processing power, RAM, graphics & video cards as soon as newer, more powerful or greater capacity versions are released which will constantly keep your machine at the cutting edge of the gaming world. Gaming on a computer also has quite a nice feel to it and you get fantastic online communities for games and gamers. Also; you can take a break from gaming to chat on msn or check something on the net or w/e. You also have access to the console in most games which allows you to tweak the game in various ways. Mods also play a large part in computer based gaming - this is missing from console based games.

However consoles are advancing at a terrific rate and it is possible that in the coming decade we will see them step up to being all but gaming rig pc's in their own right. Playing with the 'pad is something a lot of people enjoy compared to the mouse & keyboard combo of the pc. However, you need to wait for a completely new console to be developed and released before any major upgrades can be done to improve graphics hardware etc.

Also; gamers on the pc get free updates in the form of patches - console gamers have to pay for these updates.

I think we are being very narrow minded in restricting ourselves to think solely in terms of pc's and consoles. Already we have 3D displays and gaming devices. Virtual Reality is also becoming a very plausible gaming technology due to vast strides being taken in the development of small, affordable units that can be used for gaming.

In the next decade it could very well be that we see the emergence of a new type of gaming platform that uses a fully immersive virtual reality environment and allows the functionality of a computer.

???Since when do you pay for patches in ps3 ?

And Faris, isn't the picture a console ?

[CairAndros]

If you want to buy a new map pack for CoD it costs you money. If you want to buy anything else for games in terms of 'patching it' i.e. making it better by issuing an update known as a patch then you have to pay for it.

For pc gamers the patch is downloaded free; admittedly there are some things you need to pay for but a lot of it is free.

[CaptainObvious]

Sadly, I think consoles are becoming dominant and will continue in that. I'm a PC gamer at heart and played several games to a highly competitive level. However, I think it's undeniable that they've lost their way. Ever try playing online with modern PC FPSs? It's depressingly barren.

Much of it probably has to do with relative barriers to entry. High end gaming PCs are more expensive than consoles, and are also generally more high maintenance, requiring a level of effort and skill to maintain and optimize that many are not interested in or capable of giving. Consoles are extremely simple and user friendly, and that is a huge advantage.

I wish it weren't so, but...

[scuba steve]

I've always been a console gamer not getting a computer into the until i was about 14 for school work, I like the idea of being able to have better running of large games like Oblivion but I personally hate the idea of keyboard/mouse for gaming. Consoles also alow for more amateur players to join (and I mean in general console games not just Wii party game shite) since they're generally easier to understand in the sense of buy this system play those games, but with a PC it can be slightly overwhelming when the gamer would want the best system along with graphics cards etc.

[CaptainObvious]

but I personally hate the idea of keyboard/mouse for gaming.

Whaaa? for some sports games and racing games and the like controllers are better, but for everything else it's keyboard/mouse all the way. you can't get nearly the same level of control in FPSs with a controller and forget about anything more complicated than that (many RPGs, all RTSs, etc.).

[scuba steve]

Whaaa? for some sports games and racing games and the like controllers are better, but for everything else it's keyboard/mouse all the way. you can't get nearly the same level of control in FPSs with a controller and forget about anything more complicated than that (many RPGs, all RTSs, etc.).

Yes, yes i've heard all the rants about not having as much control, but I in general hate the mouse/keyboard setup. If i'm working fine I can type and all that crap but if i'm playing games I always grab the controller as if i'm trying to strangle it. I honestly don't know why but if i'm sitting still then my hands have to be holding something or be clenched...

[KodieBear]

most of the time nowadays you need a pc to get the full experience of a console :P

[Continuum]

The PC seems to be the most flexible kind of gaming gear, moreover it could do much more than gaming. And, the keyboard and mouse still rules my controller list.

Aside from that, the PC still is the most customizable of all, though it costs a lot whenever you need parts. Consoles however stay where they presently are, unless a new generation comes along and scraps them in the open. If you don't like the present feel of the keyboard/mouse then plug a controller on the usb hub.

Certainly my age old computer still has the awesome feel, and I like it. ;)

[Harley Quinn]

:arrow: tech junkies

[aussiecasper]

Consoles are getting more powerful and slowly encrotching on the internet capablitys of pcs. and with the coming of motion and 3d gameing in ten years im no say that the game consoles will be the computer of choise but the console will evolve and eventyally becom a home entertainment system that will rule the game, the internet and your life. or something like that

[scuba steve]

Consoles are getting more powerful and slowly encrotching on the internet capablitys of pcs. and with the coming of motion and 3d gameing in ten years im no say that the game consoles will be the computer of choise but the console will evolve and eventyally becom a home entertainment system that will rule the game, the internet and your life. or something like that

Very true, think Iphone I know they're dodgy and alot of people hate them, but they are the beginning of everything in your hand at once, games consoles could eventually be the same only for the home.

[gbboone]

I think that PC games are better, but my graphics card become outdated in about two years, so a console will last me a longer time. Also, with consoles, memory is not a big problems. I generally can only have two large games installed on my PC. And PCs tend to be buggy. I don't know what INSERTGAMEHERE.exe is or why it crashed. But PCs also have much wider possibilities. Most console game have one story-line and a small multiplayer. PCs have a potential for huge sandboxes and community biased economies. Both have their ups and downs.

[Ender]

If PC's can catch up with gaming consoles in speed, image quality, FPS, and price, then they will definitely make a comeback in my opinion. PC is where its at... I mean, I can mod all of my games however I want :D

[Azunite]

Pc has one great disadvantage:
Graph Card.
Seriously, unless you change it ( once in every two years ) you wont be able to play well.
Since I have ATI 5950 and an i7 processor, I wont change it for like 5 years but for those other people, it will be problem.
However, PS3 graphs remain the same, and they will give better perfomance than a medium computer.
Plus, PC gaming will bring hack. I mean, even in BETA, in a plain little BETA game ( MoH ) there was hack !
PS3 rarely freezes, but until patchs come out PC crashes regularly.

[JackOfClubs]

I'm going to stick with console gaming currently, it's far chelate to buy a gaming console and an average computer, as the combination of both is most likely going to be easily under $1000. Besides, I can't get Gran Turismo for PC.

[Perseus]

I'm both at heart, but I buy all my games for my 360 since I don't have the money for great computer games like TF2 and Civ V; two games of whom I want really bad.

Console is coming in strong. At the very minimum, twenty five million people own an Xbox 360. PCs are just too much of a hassle and are way too expensive.

[scuba steve]

I'm both at heart, but I buy all my games for my 360 since I don't have the money for great computer games like TF2 and Civ V; two games of whom I want really bad.

Console is coming in strong. At the very minimum, twenty five million people own an Xbox 360. PCs are just too much of a hassle and are way too expensive.

Xbox 360 sales are now recorded at arount 45 million so i'd estimate around 35 million plus own xbox's!

Side note: combined sales of 360 and PS3 have finally beaten the Wii by around 10-15 million.

[CairAndros]

Pc has one great disadvantage:
Graph Card.
Seriously, unless you change it ( once in every two years ) you wont be able to play well.
Since I have ATI 5950 and an i7 processor, I wont change it for like 5 years but for those other people, it will be problem.
However, PS3 graphs remain the same, and they will give better perfomance than a medium computer.
Plus, PC gaming will bring hack. I mean, even in BETA, in a plain little BETA game ( MoH ) there was hack !
PS3 rarely freezes, but until patchs come out PC crashes regularly.

I had quite a poor graphics card for about 3/4 years and it was still able to play games on it without needing upgraded. You can upgrade that often if you want but most of the time it is just RAM or Processing speed that you need - as game graphics can always be toned down to meet with your card.

Secondly; you can get hacks in console gaming as well as in pc gaming. Moreover, there are several anti-hacking/anti-bot/anti-cheating systems in place on games and in communities. Online communities on the PC hate to see cheats. Therefore if the auto-system doesn't kick them the rest of the people playing do; a record is taken of what they were doing and they are then banned from that server and the community by a Mod.

Thirdly; PC games don't just crash until they are patched. Crashes can be caused by a number of things; many of which don't actually involve the game. Speaking as a programmer, and I am in the middle of actually making a pc game, it is possible to get the odd glitch that will run an infinate loop that will make it crash but they are few and far between. Patches offer improvement upon what is already there or minor bug fixes. No self respecting game development company will put a game out for general purchase with it crashing all the time. I am not sure how much you actually know about the development process for many Software Development but testing takes up a hell of a long time and is done, in the case of games, by a specialised company who spend all their time working with the games to try and make it crash, to make it glitch, in order to say to the development team "hey, you got a problem here, when I do X, Y & Z your game crashes - you will wanna sort that" and that is what happens; it is taken away and fixed. In all honesty I can count on one hand the amount of games that I have had for the PC that have crashed for me.

And by your logic for patches that would mean that the PS3 & 360 crash regularly as patches are frequently issued in the form of updates for games released on those formats.

[scuba steve]

The only time consoles crash really is with PC ported games anyway.

[Azunite]

I only experienced freezing or any other graphical or system bugs in Fallout 3 on consoles

[AutoPlay]

Im an avid PC gamer, Through and through.

Change is on the horizon, starting with DICE. Battlefield 3 will be a PC only title, Consoles will get a watered down version, still named Battlefield 3 but with about 70% less content.

COD8 will be a PC only title due to it being a MMO.

[Azunite]

Im an avid PC gamer, Through and through.

Change is on the horizon, starting with DICE. Battlefield 3 will be a PC only title, Consoles will get a watered down version, still named Battlefield 3 but with about 70% less content.

COD8 will be a PC only title due to it being a MMO.


Those are total lies, shame on you...
Battlefield 3 will be also on PS3 because you are given a special code for PS3 when you buy Medal of Honor on PS3.

And Call of Duty, or any other First Person Shooter will never be an MMO. That is the most stupid thing I have heard in my entire life.
Where are your resources?

[Perseus]

Change is on the horizon, starting with DICE. Battlefield 3 will be a PC only title, Consoles will get a watered down version, still named Battlefield 3 but with about 70% less content.



I'm not so sure about that. Battlefield 3, since there will be a beta next October for consoles, will probably be on the consoles. I doubt DICE will be douches and water it down for the console. Both Bad Company and BC2 are demos for their Frostbite engine for Battlefield 3. B3 will be marvelous, I think. If it is PC only I'll be sad since my computer won't be able to run it.

[Azunite]

B3 will be the new ruler of FPS, not to mention the recent statistic fall of CoD series.
DICE people are smart, and they wont just turn down the consoles. Total of PS3 and XBOX sell hell a lot more than PCs

[CairAndros]

Those are total lies, shame on you...
Battlefield 3 will be also on PS3 because you are given a special code for PS3 when you buy Medal of Honor on PS3.

And Call of Duty, or any other First Person Shooter will never be an MMO. That is the most stupid thing I have heard in my entire life.
Where are your resources?


Shooters are perfectly plausible as MMO's. If you really want to look at it then you can have giant server sizes on shooters out for the pc at the moment which could be termed as massive. If that isn't enough for you then the Stargate MMO, Stargate Worlds, is to use all the weapons used in the series; i'm not sure if you have seen it but to illustrate a few; P-90, MP5, M9 etc. So having a shooter for a MMO is possible.


B3 will be the new ruler of FPS, not to mention the recent statistic fall of CoD series.
DICE people are smart, and they wont just turn down the consoles. Total of PS3 and XBOX sell hell a lot more than PCs

The recent statistic fall of the CoD series that you claim must have led it to win the Golden Joystick Awards for Best Shooter of The Year with CoD:MW2 and Game To Watch with CoD:Black Ops. On a side note; It defeated Battlefield 2 in the Shooter category thus confirming its superiority.

[scuba steve]

Battlefield and/or Call of duty will never be PC exclusives much more money is made selling to consoles, fact.
And Cengiz Fallout 3 was a PC to console port hence the bugs :D

[Azunite]

Shooters are perfectly plausible as MMO's. If you really want to look at it then you can have giant server sizes on shooters out for the pc at the moment which could be termed as massive. If that isn't enough for you then the Stargate MMO, Stargate Worlds, is to use all the weapons used in the series; i'm not sure if you have seen it but to illustrate a few; P-90, MP5, M9 etc. So having a shooter for a MMO is possible.




The recent statistic fall of the CoD series that you claim must have led it to win the Golden Joystick Awards for Best Shooter of The Year with CoD:MW2 and Game To Watch with CoD:Black Ops. On a side note; It defeated Battlefield 2 in the Shooter category thus confirming its superiority.

Awards are a diffrent thing. I am talking about forum websites here.
Bad Company is a new game and CoD is ancient, thats why thy are giving all awards to CoD.
And just because game reviewers dont have enough skill to play BC2, they give the awards to CoD.
Dont get me wrong, I think CoD is better than BC2 but seriously, whenever you write MW2 vs BC2 all answers are for BC2 because MW2 has an infamy of noob-camping-hacking gamers.

[CairAndros]

First off. Game Reviewers happen to be skillful enough to play all the games that they review. How else would they be able to review them. I, myself, have played both games and can say that it is an easy thing to be able to do.

Also; you get campers in any sort of shooter - that is how some people play. Deal with it.

Moreover, CoD is still setting records for the purchase of the game on launch date and number of people playing it. Therefore it is not in decline.

[Azunite]

But Call of Duty lost a lot of its gamers to BC2, that is no secret.
And campers on BC2? Never saw any

[CairAndros]

Just because you haven't seen any doesn't mean they don't exist. I haven't seen the Aurora Borealis with my own eyes does that mean it doesn't exist? I haven't seen the famed walls of Constantinople; do they not exist?

[Perseus]

But Call of Duty lost a lot of its gamers to BC2, that is no secret.
And campers on BC2? Never saw any

That's because it's tactical camping, not hiding behind a dumpster with an AA12. Camping in BC2 consists of holding a position, but you are still camping because you are not constantly moving.

[scuba steve]

In Bad company 2 i've noticed Snipers camping, specialists camping in the bushes whith their silenced guns since there's no kill cam they can stay put. Every shooter has campers.

^agreed with Jake!

[Azunite]

But remember that camping in MW2 is noob campign, with shotguns behind a bush for example.
BC2 campers, as far as I have seen are mostly snipers. And you cannot expect a sniper to run around and charge into battle with a bolt action.
MW2 sniping does have tactical camping too, but also there is this impossible-in-real-life quickscoping

[steve1234]

games on the computer take up way too much space, and the gamplay is usually jumpy and just rubbish when I put in on my computer.

Unless you have a powerful computer, I think games consoles are the better option!

[CairAndros]

But remember that camping in MW2 is noob campign, with shotguns behind a bush for example.
BC2 campers, as far as I have seen are mostly snipers. And you cannot expect a sniper to run around and charge into battle with a bolt action.
MW2 sniping does have tactical camping too, but also there is this impossible-in-real-life quickscoping

You enjoy changing your story don't you. Firstly you say you haven't seen any campers in BC2 now you say that it is only snipers, copying a post from someone else. And, fyi, when I played BC2 i would run straight into the middle of the action as a sniper.

[Azunite]

You enjoy changing your story don't you. Firstly you say you haven't seen any campers in BC2 now you say that it is only snipers, copying a post from someone else. And, fyi, when I played BC2 i would run straight into the middle of the action as a sniper.

Then go and grab an assault rifle.

I wasnt changing my story, learn to read properly.
I was first talkin about noob camping. People who would sit in a corner with their shotguns, which I have never seen in BC2 ( only if they have planted the bomb and trying to keep defenders away, which is okay ). There are super rare exceptions, as I have heard from you, they camp with their silenced weapons but would soon quit away as the maps are huge and you have the opportunity not to use the camper's way.


Second is tactical camping, which snipers to. They just sit and take targets from afar, locate targets with "Q" button. Once they kill around 3 players, their position is known so they move to another balcony or another hill .Because they are "SNIPERS". Their job is to take targets from afar and inform teamplayers. In every single FPS, snipers do tactical camping. Because their rate of fire doesnt allow them to rush into battle and try to face people who have a higher rate of fire.

[Perseus]

Second is tactical camping, which snipers to. They just sit and take targets from afar, locate targets with "Q" button. Once they kill around 3 players, their position is known so they move to another balcony or another hill .Because they are "SNIPERS". Their job is to take targets from afar and inform teamplayers. In every single FPS, snipers do tactical camping. Because their rate of fire doesnt allow them to rush into battle and try to face people who have a higher rate of fire.

By tactical camping, I meant standing in a house or something holding a flag, etc. and keeping away the enemy for a period of time.

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[Azunite]

Yes, that too..

[CairAndros]

But Call of Duty lost a lot of its gamers to BC2, that is no secret.
And campers on BC2? Never saw any

But remember that camping in MW2 is noob campign, with shotguns behind a bush for example.
BC2 campers, as far as I have seen are mostly snipers. And you cannot expect a sniper to run around and charge into battle with a bolt action.
MW2 sniping does have tactical camping too, but also there is this impossible-in-real-life quickscoping

Then go and grab an assault rifle.

I wasnt changing my story, learn to read properly.
I was first talkin about noob camping. People who would sit in a corner with their shotguns, which I have never seen in BC2 ( only if they have planted the bomb and trying to keep defenders away, which is okay ). There are super rare exceptions, as I have heard from you, they camp with their silenced weapons but would soon quit away as the maps are huge and you have the opportunity not to use the camper's way.


Second is tactical camping, which snipers to. They just sit and take targets from afar, locate targets with "Q" button. Once they kill around 3 players, their position is known so they move to another balcony or another hill .Because they are "SNIPERS". Their job is to take targets from afar and inform teamplayers. In every single FPS, snipers do tactical camping. Because their rate of fire doesnt allow them to rush into battle and try to face people who have a higher rate of fire.

There are your posts on campers; from that we can trace your claims. Firstly you claim there are no campers in BC2 as you 'never saw any'. Then you say that you have seen campers in BC2 in the form of snipers. Then you go onto defend camping in BC2 because it is 'what they do'. Now, you can't have it both ways - you have either seen them or you haven't. If you have seen them then you are changing your story. If you haven't seen them then you are lying with your later posts. So, which is it? Moreover, you get semi-automatic sniper rifles that have a sufficient rate of fire for you to run into a small group of enemies and dispatch them if you are skillful, you also have a secondary weapon which you can use(a good few of the pistols have a good rate of fire and deal a good amount of damage to take out a group of enemies - I know this because I have done this as have many other people I have played with and against).

[AutoPlay]

Those are total lies, shame on you...
Battlefield 3 will be also on PS3 because you are given a special code for PS3 when you buy Medal of Honor on PS3.

And Call of Duty, or any other First Person Shooter will never be an MMO. That is the most stupid thing I have heard in my entire life.
Where are your resources?

maybe before calling me a lier try using google and researching abit. Also read the full post before you comment with some rediculous garbage about it also being on the PS3. i know its on the PS3. I clearly said its on consoles but with about 70% less content.

Also again use google, maybe try reading, cod8 could to the MMO direction for PC only as a subscription based game.

Resources as your clearly to lazy to type into google these things before you attack someone with better knowledge.

http://fudzilla.com/games/item/20608-pc-version-of-battlefield-3-to-be-best

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=231079

good day sir.

[Azunite]

Haha wtf ?
You never said anything about %70 or whatsoever. You simply said that it would only be for PC.
And lol less content would mean another game.

Oh I checked the resources, it only says that you could play the B3 better on PC, thanks to servers. And mark my words, CoD will never be a MMO

[Death]

Having a PC has its advantages. So many games either run better, have additional features, or both, on a PC. For instance, Fallout 3 is known to be less buggy on the PC version and Far Cry 2 actually allows you to save whenever you like on it rather than every twenty minutes or so. You also generally have console commands on a PC to compensate for bugs, experiment for fun, or quite simply cheat.

[scuba steve]

Having a PC has its advantages. So many games either run better, have additional features, or both, on a PC. For instance, Fallout 3 is known to be less buggy on the PC version and Far Cry 2 actually allows you to save whenever you like on it rather than every twenty minutes or so. You also generally have console commands on a PC to compensate for bugs, experiment for fun, or quite simply cheat.

Fallout 3 is a PC game after all and Far Cry 2 saved using save areas in places like gun stores or faction headquarters in consoles hardly a "fault" area just something that was changed.

[Death]

Far Cry 2 saved using save areas in places like gun stores or faction headquarters in consoles hardly a "fault" area just something that was changed.

And it was a a change for the better if you ask me. In my experience, quite a few games allow you to save when you want on the PC version even if they don't on the console one. Besides, you've also got key-mapping (which Fallout 3 actually let you do on the console, which is unusual) on the PCs too and most reviews (not all) prefer PC versions for technical reasons.

[Azunite]

Having a PC has its advantages. So many games either run better, have additional features, or both, on a PC. For instance, Fallout 3 is known to be less buggy on the PC version and Far Cry 2 actually allows you to save whenever you like on it rather than every twenty minutes or so. You also generally have console commands on a PC to compensate for bugs, experiment for fun, or quite simply cheat.

Fallout 3 less buggy on PC version?
Well that may be the majority but I have Fallout 3 for both PC and PS3 ( for PC too because of the mods ) and only bug I have seen in PS3 was the VATS bug, where it sometimes froze when entering VATS
Before you guys yell, I am excluding the GOTY DLC bugs :P

[scuba steve]

In New Vegas the game sometimes refuses to enter VATS or the Pip Boy 3000 during large firefights without rapidly pressing the button

[Azunite]

There are your posts on campers; from that we can trace your claims. Firstly you claim there are no campers in BC2 as you 'never saw any'. Then you say that you have seen campers in BC2 in the form of snipers. Then you go onto defend camping in BC2 because it is 'what they do'. Now, you can't have it both ways - you have either seen them or you haven't. If you have seen them then you are changing your story. If you haven't seen them then you are lying with your later posts. So, which is it? Moreover, you get semi-automatic sniper rifles that have a sufficient rate of fire for you to run into a small group of enemies and dispatch them if you are skillful, you also have a secondary weapon which you can use(a good few of the pistols have a good rate of fire and deal a good amount of damage to take out a group of enemies - I know this because I have done this as have many other people I have played with and against).

So , sorry if I have confused you.
At first, I was talking about noob camping which I always see on MW2 but I have never seen on BC2. Then, they talked about tactical camping, or sniper-camping. I always see them ( of course ) because sniping means sitting still and shooting people from far, ( well, thats what me or half of BC2 players do )
And semi automatic rifle and going into the middle of the battle wouldnt be sniping, you would just fight with a semi automatic rifle

[AutoPlay]

Haha wtf ?
You never said anything about %70 or whatsoever. You simply said that it would only be for PC.
And lol less content would mean another game.

Oh I checked the resources, it only says that you could play the B3 better on PC, thanks to servers. And mark my words, CoD will never be a MMO

Change is on the horizon, starting with DICE. Battlefield 3 will be a PC only title, Consoles will get a watered down version, still named Battlefield 3 but with about 70% less content.

haha wtf. shut up. your talking to the guy whos been to almost EVERY E3 and gaming convention there has ever been, Im a regular at major Lans and have ties and connections with many devs and publishers INCLUDING Infinity ward AND activision. The call of duty series no longer belongs to Infinity ward, it belongs to a studio called Respawn Entertainment. Treyarch now own 49% of the Call of duty business model due to Infinity ward shutting down thier call of duty section. CoD: Black ops will be made by Treyarch and another company will be producing the Map packs so Treyarch can focus on first ironing out the bugs on the first game, lets face it, there will be some and then work on the sequel. (COD8 or 9, which wont be MMO).

You obviously dont understand how servers work, The xbox 360 and PS3 use P2P AND Dedicated servers, how ever you have NO control over these dedicated servers you can connect to. On PC you have control. There will be MORE content on the PC than on the consoles. Directx11 and 12 support along with extended leaderboard and DLC content.

COD8 or 9 WILL BE an MMO for the PC only. Bobby kotick has already announced that a studio called sledgehammer is preparing to mock up plans and sketches for the new MMO. He has also announced the business model for how the MMO will work. Maybe, instead of mouthing off thinking you know everything when you have absoultly NO idea at all, you should try using google or another MAJOR search engine.

The basic idea is: 32,000 player servers, with a real time world plunged in a deep war, you play just like you would ANY cod game but use set weapons for each side, however weapons can be baught and sold to and from the opposing side. So opfor using M4's ect.

As i said, Google and maybe listening to people who have actually been told FIRST HAND by the DEVs and COMMUNITY MANAGERS FACE TO FACE as they can tell you things. All be it im not supposed to just blart out things like that as i can get into trouble, but some people piss me off the point of where they THINK they know everything however they know very little.

Adios

[Azunite]

Change is on the horizon, starting with DICE. Battlefield 3 will be a PC only title, Consoles will get a watered down version, still named Battlefield 3 but with about 70% less content.

haha wtf. shut up. your talking to the guy whos been to almost EVERY E3 and gaming haha wtf. shut upconvention there has ever been, Im a regular at major Lans and have ties and connections with many devs and publishers INCLUDING Infinity ward AND activision. The call of duty series no longer belongs to Infinity ward, it belongs to a studio called Respawn Entertainment. Treyarch now own 49% of the Call of duty business model due to Infinity ward shutting down thier call of duty section. CoD: Black ops will be made by Treyarch and another company will be producing the Map packs so Treyarch can focus on first ironing out the bugs on the first game, lets face it, there will be some and then work on the sequel. (COD8 or 9, which wont be MMO).

You obviously dont understand how servers work, The xbox 360 and PS3 use P2P AND Dedicated servers, how ever you have NO control over these dedicated servers you can connect to. On PC you have control. There will be MORE content on the PC than on the consoles. Directx11 and 12 support along with extended leaderboard and DLC content.

COD8 or 9 WILL BE an MMO for the PC only. Bobby kotick has already announced that a studio called sledgehammer is preparing to mock up plans and sketches for the new MMO. He has also announced the business model for how the MMO will work. Maybe, instead of mouthing off thinking you know everything when you have absoultly NO idea at all, you should try using google or another MAJOR search engine.

The basic idea is: 32,000 player servers, with a real time world plunged in a deep war, you play just like you would ANY cod game but use set weapons for each side, however weapons can be baught and sold to and from the opposing side. So opfor using M4's ect.

As i said, Google and maybe listening to people who have actually been told FIRST HAND by the DEVs and COMMUNITY MANAGERS FACE TO FACE as they can tell you things. All be it im not supposed to just blart out things like that as i can get into trouble, but some people piss me off the point of where they THINK they know everything however they know very little.

Adios

So first of all, watch your fuckin' tongue .
Second, did Respawn Entertainment bought the rights of CoD? As I remember, no. If they did, when ?
And until the last few months, the producers of Oblivion also said that the game would be set in Skyrim, but now it is official that it is in Summerset Isle.
And I don't f*ing care if you went to E3s, that doesn't proove anything. On the other hand, the founder of Treyarch is a family member of us and I have met the current executive producer of Treyarch, so don't show off okay ?
And seriously,did I said that what I have said were official information, I have always told you that what I thought.
And can you explain this:%70 less content ?

[AutoPlay]

So first of all, watch your fuckin' tongue .
Second, did Respawn Entertainment bought the rights of CoD? As I remember, no. If they did, when ?
And until the last few months, the producers of Oblivion also said that the game would be set in Skyrim, but now it is official that it is in Summerset Isle.
And I don't f*ing care if you went to E3s, that doesn't proove anything. On the other hand, the founder of Treyarch is a family member of us and I have met the current executive producer of Treyarch, so don't show off okay ?
And seriously,did I said that what I have said were official information, I have always told you that what I thought.
And can you explain this:%70 less content ?

Lol you so fucking scary, watch my tounge? what you gonna do? call me names? get a grip you fucking e-warrior.

Respawn Entertainment is ran by the FOUNDING MEMBERS of Infinity ward. The two guys who had the rights to Call of duty, naturally they took them with them. Activision cannot publish anything without the say so of the two Devs.

Who cares where its set. No one.

Okay then, so 1. Who is the exec producer of treyarch, and id like to see some proof. no proof = lies. also, go ask him, im sure hell supply you with as much information as he can.

70% less content is based on the fact your console has memory limitations. Which means less weapons, smaller servers 20 players MAX. Small maps, less sounds ect.

Seriously, im done talking to you, your another know it all that doesnt actually know anything. Waste of time.

retard

[Azunite]

I only met current producer twice, and that was the time when I went to America. As you can see, I live in Turkey where we ride our horses as we use spears to kill animals and try to survive the day with Chinese at our back and Mongols flanking us.

And no game ever had that 70% stuff.
So, thanks for the info. I didn't knew that Zampella and West had the rights but Activision did since they are the publishers of CoD since it's first game, and IW wasn't always there.

And I am saying that the producers change their ideas, like what happened with the Skyrim thing. They also said that it woul be an MMO ( check uesp.net )

[Kaius]

All of you cool it. First and final warning i dont want to be handing infractions out. If you're gonna discuss, then discuss. otherwise leave out the keyboard warrior business.

[AutoPlay]

I only met current producer twice, and that was the time when I went to America. As you can see, I live in Turkey where we ride our horses as we use spears to kill animals and try to survive the day with Chinese at our back and Mongols flanking us.

And no game ever had that 70% stuff.
So, thanks for the info. I didn't knew that Zampella and West had the rights but Activision did since they are the publishers of CoD since it's first game, and IW wasn't always there.

And I am saying that the producers change their ideas, like what happened with the Skyrim thing. They also said that it woul be an MMO ( check uesp.net )

your knowledge astounds me, Infinity ward created the original cod, it was Zampella and West's idea LOL. Activision jumped on the band wagon when they saw a MASSIVE demand for the beta in 2001.

[Azunite]

your knowledge astounds me, Infinity ward created the original cod, it was Zampella and West's idea LOL. Activision jumped on the band wagon when they saw a MASSIVE demand for the beta in 2001.

Since I thought they supplied the IW the money they needed and they were the publishers I thought Activision held the rights what is so wrong about it ?
Then explain this, why does Treyarch hold the rights now? Zampella and West could simply wait for another year until Respawn Entertainment was fully established and created CoD: Black Ops

[Solace]

PC gaming used to be good. But now it's dead.

[AutoPlay]

Since I thought they supplied the IW the money they needed and they were the publishers I thought Activision held the rights what is so wrong about it ?
Then explain this, why does Treyarch hold the rights now? Zampella and West could simply wait for another year until Respawn Entertainment was fully established and created CoD: Black Ops

Treyarch dont hold the rights, they are creating a game for Activision which has been given the go ahead from Zampella and West as they do not wish to see the series die. And as to why the didnt wait another year, its because as you said, thier studio isnt set up properly, they need time and money (money coming from black ops, around 45% goes to them.)

PC gaming used to be good. But now it's dead.

wrong. just wrong.

[Death]

In New Vegas the game sometimes refuses to enter VATS or the Pip Boy 3000 during large firefights without rapidly pressing the button

You know, I really hate that. I was in a fight with those criminals near Primm and I was badly injured and wanted to use a few stims. And yet I kept hitting tab and the game and yet the game didn't register it meaning I quickly died. And I swear that's gotten worse compared to Fallout 3 too. Still, it appears to happen on both the Xbox 360 and the PC.

[scuba steve]

You know, I really hate that. I was in a fight with those criminals near Primm and I was badly injured and wanted to use a few stims. And yet I kept hitting tab and the game and yet the game didn't register it meaning I quickly died. And I swear that's gotten worse compared to Fallout 3 too. Still, it appears to happen on both the Xbox 360 and the PC.

I honestly think Fallout 3 is a much more stable game than New Vegas; in my opinion Bethesda is quite dodgy with their game development and clearly cannot cooperate with another developer when creating their own games. They're a bit like strays just doing their own thing and handing it to you whether your completely satisfied or not, the profit comes in, they are.

[Azunite]

I honestly think Fallout 3 is a much more stable game than New Vegas; in my opinion Bethesda is quite dodgy with their game development and clearly cannot cooperate with another developer when creating their own games. They're a bit like strays just doing their own thing and handing it to you whether your completely satisfied or not, the profit comes in, they are.

Yeah, I think FNV was made in haste. If they worked on it for like 3 more months it would have been way more better

[Magus]

In the next decade it could very well be that we see the emergence of a new type of gaming platform that uses a fully immersive virtual reality environment and allows the functionality of a computer.

Consoles as PCs? That's old news, man.

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[Mayon]

PC's have a bigger budget, more space for more power and much better upgradability. All console/pc games are developed on a PC and tested on PC. Whilst the consoles are getting better, so are PC's. Overall, PC's win.

[Emerald Dream]

Please do not post in threads with more than two months of inactivity. :locked:

[Human]

PC's will probably always outcompete consoles in terms of power etc.