Conceal and Carry Laws/Guns on College Campuses

[ShyGuyInChicago]

Do you believe people have the right to guns concealed on their person for protection? Do you believe that conceal and carry gun laws will help deter crime because perpetrators will know that it is very likely their potential victims will be able to defend themselves?

Plus, do you think that college students should be allowed to possess guns on campus? Do you think such a thing could prevent or even curtail mass shootings?

[Sith Lord 13]

Yes and yes. When you know the person you're about to pull a gun on has a good shot of being armed, you become a lot less likely to pull a gun on them.

[Azunite]

What the hell ?
People would just draw out their guns when they get anry or something, and if someone beats you with fists you can survive but it is one bullet one kill...
And in univercities wtf ? The college students would immideatly rebel ! A lot of rebellions are made by univercity students anyway

[Perseus]

Fuck no. Public is one thing but university is too far.

[ShyGuyInChicago]

Fuck no. Public is one thing but university is too far.

Why do you feel that way about universities? Does it seem plausible that it could deter or shorten school shootings?

[Perseus]

Why do you feel that way about universities? Does it seem plausible that it could deter or shorten school shootings?

People who are already in the mood for a school killing could get a permit and then waltz in and wreck people. If you can't have guns on a campus, you're more likely to get caught and such since people will see the gun and call the police.

[TopGear]

Absolutely! I think anyone that is cleared and has a permit for that gun then they should be able to carry it concealed.

Now I do believe that It should be harder to become a concealed gun holder, But if you don't have anything on your record to keep you from becoming a concealed gun holder then it shouldn't be hard at all.

About the idea of college students carrying concealed weapons is a iffy thing. I think if the college had the money to spend they can hire a good handful of students that are capable of handling a gun and being the first responders so to speak if a shooting would occur. They would have the training need to handle the situation, Kinda like the Air Marshall's of a college campus.

Just a thought though

[Amnesiac]

Do you believe people have the right to guns concealed on their person for protection? Do you believe that conceal and carry gun laws will help deter crime because perpetrators will know that it is very likely their potential victims will be able to defend themselves?

Plus, do you think that college students should be allowed to possess guns on campus? Do you think such a thing could prevent or even curtail mass shootings?

I'm mixed on gun law overall. While I do believe that concealed carrying does lower crime rates, I have my doubts every time a shooting like the one you're referencing occurs.

In this case, I'd have to say that college students should be allowed to carry a concealed weapon on their person — but it has to be only strong enough for self defense, nothing more, and they must have no prior criminal record (traffic fines and stuff like that don't count) before applying for a permit.

[TopGear]

I agree with you Justin but I Don't think it would be safe if every student at the College is carrying a concealed gun. Knowing that everyone won't but if one person finds out there, im sure there will be a domino affect with that and more people in that college will feel the need to get a permit for a concealed gun. So I do believe they should limit the number of how many students can conceal a gun while on school grounds and have them know that they are the ones that have them and they should be trained to work together in case of a shooting.

This would work kinda like volunteer police work for the students. OR Better yet instead of the Students being permitted gun holders, the professors could hold that responability.

[Amnesiac]

I agree with you Justin but I Don't think it would be safe if every student at the College is carrying a concealed gun. Knowing that everyone won't but if one person finds out there, im sure there will be a domino affect with that and more people in that college will feel the need to get a permit for a concealed gun. So I do believe they should limit the number of how many students can conceal a gun while on school grounds and have them know that they are the ones that have them and they should be trained to work together in case of a shooting.

This would work kinda like volunteer police work for the students. OR Better yet instead of the Students being permitted gun holders, the professors could hold that responability.

I agree that universities should know exactly what students are carrying concealed weapons.

I don't think we should be giving guns to the professors, the students are the ones that are vulnerable.

There's a reason I put that the guns should be just strong enough for self defense. We don't need students going around with assault rifles in their cars. A simple pistol, enough to protect yourself and the people around you, is enough. There's no need to bring military-grade artillery to school.

[Sith Lord 13]

I think the only difference between a regular person carrying and a college student carrying should be having to register with public safety when the come on campus.

[TopGear]

Well not only with public safety but with the school itself. I mean if you were a dean of a decent size college, lets just throw out a number, 6,000 students. Would you feel that your campus is safe if knowing that college kids, 18-26 year olds are walking around on campus with a loaded handgun? I would feel threatened if I didn't know. So that is why, if students were allowed to have a concealed handgun on school grounds, I would want a list of every single student who has a gun on them. Not only just a list, but a list of every class they are taking in order of the day, A Full background on the student and also what kind of handgun and what kind of bullets he uses.

Then I would feel safe on my own campus.

[Azunite]

dreww, would you feel safer if 20 students revolted and rushed into University guard post and grabbed on M4 Carbines and raided the universit?

[TopGear]

Can you please tell me what College campus has or even has excess to M4's

[Sage]

I would absolutely refuse to attend a university if I knew that my peers were carrying about firearms. Don't get me wrong- I'm all for carrying concealed weapons in public, but university grounds aren't meant to be like the rest of society. It's an environment of learning. If you feel that you need to carry a weapon around in a place of learning, then you shouldn't be there in the first place.

[Sith Lord 13]

I would absolutely refuse to attend a university if I knew that my peers were carrying about firearms. Don't get me wrong- I'm all for carrying concealed weapons in public, but university grounds aren't meant to be like the rest of society. It's an environment of learning. If you feel that you need to carry a weapon around in a place of learning, then you shouldn't be there in the first place.

Why? Given the rash of school shootings, I'd feel a lot safer knowing if some gunman burst in, we'd be equipped to deal with it.

[Perseus]

Why? Given the rash of school shootings, I'd feel a lot safer knowing if some gunman burst in, we'd be equipped to deal with it.

They don't happen everyday. It's more likely to happen if people are permitted to have guns on campus.

[Azunite]

Can you please tell me what College campus has or even has excess to M4's

Provided if they are allowed

[Sith Lord 13]

They don't happen everyday. It's more likely to happen if people are permitted to have guns on campus.

And this is where we have a fundamental disagreement. I hold it's less likely because people who want to go on those shooting rampages will, regardless of whether it's allowed to have a gun or not. However, they may not when they realize that there is a good chance that the only one who will end up dead is them.

[Perseus]

And this is where we have a fundamental disagreement. I hold it's less likely because people who want to go on those shooting rampages will, regardless of whether it's allowed to have a gun or not. However, they may not when they realize that there is a good chance that the only one who will end up dead is them.

The thing is, the people won't know till the last second since no one will know whether or not the person whom has he permit and gun is dangerous until someone is dead. At least with the no guns on campus things, the person who has the gun would be egregious looking with a gun and such.