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steve1234
October 23rd, 2010, 05:55 AM
What do you all think about getting drunk.

Personally, I can't really see the point of it. I have got drunk about twice, and each time I will say i enjoyed myself, but I can hardly remember any of it, i've acted inappropriatly towards some girls, i've woken up with a dreadful hangover, got in trouble with my parents, and lost some of my belongings!

Most of my friends seem to think a good night out is one where everyone gets pissed (not sure the term 'pissed' describing getting drunk is used in the USA, but it is in the UK). All they care about is getting drunk, which is quite a selfish thing to do, as you have to rely on your friends to get you home safely.

There is the arguement that people use alcohol to forget their problems. I can understand it when people do this, but most of my friends live a comfortable middle class life and have no reason to get drunk.

This sounds bad, but sometimes I think some of my friends should get liver damage just to teach them a lesson. Obviously I don't really want them to, but I can't help thinking it sometimes.

There is the fact that drunks cost the NHS millions of pounds every year, which is a bad waste of taxpayers money. It has also been on the news recently in the UK that teenagers going into hospital for alcohol related problems rose 25% in recent years. Also, in the UK females are now drinking much more than males. Its a sad sight to be walking through my town on a Friday night seeing all these young people on the floor, in a puddle of sick and urine, with most of their clothes missing. Its like living at the end of civilisation.

So, what do you guys think about people who continuously get drunk? Do you think they deserve to be treated by the NHS (thats the free health service in the UK) ? Also, how badly does it damage your body when drinking at such a young age?

Kaius
October 23rd, 2010, 06:03 AM
I think getting drunk is an area in which many things are involved such as the reasons for drinking. Some think its cool, others do it to block things out and cope with things. While alcohol can be good fun and help some people loosen up i feel many people now (And i don't just mean teens) have just began to misuse it and therefore more harm is coming from it than good. You don't need to get absolutely paralytic to have fun, and tbh the only "Fun" coming from it other than a lovely hang over the next morning is spending the night in either A&E Having your stomach pumped or spending the night in a police cell for being drunk and disorderly.

I think everyone has the right to be treated on the NHS but I think once it gets far enough an intervention needs to be put in place, maybe a mandatory spell of AA meetings or assessments to solve the problem of why they're continually drinking and then go from there to make a decision on whats the best thing to do.

Sage
October 23rd, 2010, 06:45 AM
What do you all think about getting drunk.
Feels good, man.

Peace God
October 23rd, 2010, 06:47 AM
Drinking isnt my thing.
I cant think, i cant do anything right... i just feel completely useless for a few hours.
Not fun imo.

CairAndros
October 23rd, 2010, 06:54 AM
I can agree with getting drunk if its for a good reason; birthday - wedding - new year etc but not if it is just a random piss up on a friday/saturday night.

I'm a paper boy so I am constantly having to dodge drunks on saturday mornings when I go to deliver my papers; whilst most of them are actually fine when they are drunk you don't know how they will react to you etc.

I suppose it is the same if you are going to the shops on a Friday night to get a pint of milk or something - having to dodge the groups of binge drinking youths isn't very pleasant.

Something needs to be done but nothing can be done whilst shops still sell alcohol for ridiculously low prices or do deals that give large amounts of alcohol for cheap prices.

Sith Lord 13
October 23rd, 2010, 06:56 AM
Something needs to be done

Other than enforcing other laws against things like disorderly conduct, why?

CairAndros
October 23rd, 2010, 07:07 AM
Well; with the current generation drinking as much as they do it will damage their lives in the long run. So 20+ years down the line we have a shed load of folk with drink related problems clogging up the hospitals and costing the government a fair whack of money to solve. Secondly; if they are having as much access to alcohol as they are and are in favour of it then their children will be given the same treatment that they are having at the moment; which is going out drinking excessively every friday/saturday night and then throughout their lives and thus it will continue.

Sith Lord 13
October 23rd, 2010, 07:08 AM
Well; with the current generation drinking as much as they do it will damage their lives in the long run. So 20+ years down the line we have a shed load of folk with drink related problems clogging up the hospitals and costing the government a fair whack of money to solve. Secondly; if they are having as much access to alcohol as they are and are in favour of it then their children will be given the same treatment that they are having at the moment; which is going out drinking excessively every friday/saturday night and then throughout their lives and thus it will continue.

You say it like the current generation drinks more than the last.

CairAndros
October 23rd, 2010, 07:15 AM
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt seeing as you are stateside and don't live in Britain and see what it's like :P

I'll try give you an idea of the place I live in, how its been described. Fife has been described as the hell hole of Scotland - Levenmouth(the area I live in) has been called the hell-hole of Fife; that should put it into perspective for you.

And studies have shown that the current generation drink far more, on average, compared to the previous one.

Sith Lord 13
October 23rd, 2010, 07:16 AM
Really? Out here people say it all the time, but most statistics don't bare it out.

CairAndros
October 23rd, 2010, 07:19 AM
Trust me. I've seen first hand what it's like. It is getting slightly better now but it is still hellish.

karl
October 23rd, 2010, 10:07 AM
I'm not going to say anything against it, as the last time I got 'neg rep' and told a 13 year old doesn't know anything! So go ahead and get pissed out of your minds and only your family will suffer. I don't really care, as I've been through it and no longer have a father!

Jenna.
October 23rd, 2010, 11:26 AM
I don't see the point of it either. I've never gotten drunk and I'm proud to say that. I have a friend (or...used to have a friend, we kind of grew apart) who used to just want to drink randomly when she'd go over people's houses or have friends over to hers. It wouldn't even need to be a party, she just wanted to drink because she thought "everybody else was." Fortunately for me, most of my other friends aren't into drinking either, so none of us ever got roped into her little obsession.
But that's what I think is stupid. If you want to do it just because you think it's the "cool" thing to do then I feel extremely sorry for you. I'm not the biggest fan of alcohol to begin with, considering my dad is an alcoholic so just the mention of it pisses me off. With that said, you can see why I'm completely against underage drinking and abusing alcohol at any age. I've seen first-hand how alcohol can destroy a family.

Jess
October 23rd, 2010, 12:55 PM
I don't see why people want to get drunk....I'm never drinking

Amnesiac
October 23rd, 2010, 01:54 PM
What do you all think about getting drunk.

Personally, I can't really see the point of it. I have got drunk about twice, and each time I will say i enjoyed myself, but I can hardly remember any of it, i've acted inappropriatly towards some girls, i've woken up with a dreadful hangover, got in trouble with my parents, and lost some of my belongings!

Most of my friends seem to think a good night out is one where everyone gets pissed (not sure the term 'pissed' describing getting drunk is used in the USA, but it is in the UK). All they care about is getting drunk, which is quite a selfish thing to do, as you have to rely on your friends to get you home safely.

Then get drunk at home, or some place where you're not in public. If you can't handle being intoxicated around other people, and you know that you're going to do something stupid, stay home, watch TV and drink with some friends.

There is the arguement that people use alcohol to forget their problems. I can understand it when people do this, but most of my friends live a comfortable middle class life and have no reason to get drunk.

Just because someone's "middle class" doesn't mean they have a comfortable life.

This sounds bad, but sometimes I think some of my friends should get liver damage just to teach them a lesson. Obviously I don't really want them to, but I can't help thinking it sometimes.

There is the fact that drunks cost the NHS millions of pounds every year, which is a bad waste of taxpayers money. It has also been on the news recently in the UK that teenagers going into hospital for alcohol related problems rose 25% in recent years. Also, in the UK females are now drinking much more than males. Its a sad sight to be walking through my town on a Friday night seeing all these young people on the floor, in a puddle of sick and urine, with most of their clothes missing. Its like living at the end of civilisation.

So, what do you guys think about people who continuously get drunk? Do you think they deserve to be treated by the NHS (thats the free health service in the UK) ? Also, how badly does it damage your body when drinking at such a young age?

Yes, people should be wary of how much they drink. However, there's no way to enforce a limit on one's consumption of alcohol in private, only when they're out driving and doing things that could harm the public. As for the NHS treating them: it may be costly, but alcoholism is an addiction, sometimes people aren't able to control how much they drink. It's only fair to them that we help them get back into shape.

deadpie
October 23rd, 2010, 02:18 PM
I don't see why people want to get drunk....I'm never drinking

Some people use alcohol as a way to cope with reality, along with other drugs. Some just want to have a good time. Some people are addicted to it and their body will start to fuck up if they don't put alcohol in their system.

There isn't anything wrong with the alcohol, but what you do when you get drunk. An example is drinking and driving - a more serious consequence that isn't worth feeling good for a night.

The reason you don't understand is probably because you either (1) Are not an addict (2) Are not interested in it. It's that simple.

Azunite
October 23rd, 2010, 02:42 PM
Getting drunk is one of the worst things could happen to you.

If you get drunk in a public place, there is a high chance that you will do something bad , like hitting on your boy friend's girlfriend, argue with someone...
Alcohol damages the brain, that is a fact. 1 year they say " Some alcohol is good " the next year they say " Even 1 sip of it is bad " .
You just get drunk, don't remember, don't think, you just become mindless. That is why it is a sin in Islam, because you are disabling the most important thing god gave you, the most important thing which makes us diffrent from animals: Mind

Sage
October 23rd, 2010, 03:26 PM
1 year they say " Some alcohol is good " the next year they say " Even 1 sip of it is bad " .
I don't know of any credible source that says even one sip is bad, and that very much depends on what you're drinking. You cannot compare a sip of tequila to a sip of beer.

You just get drunk, don't remember, don't think, you just become mindless. That is why it is a sin in Islam, because you are disabling the most important thing god gave you, the most important thing which makes us diffrent from animals: Mind
Animals have minds, ours are just more advanced. But that's going off on a tangent so I'll leave it at that.

Azunite
October 23rd, 2010, 03:33 PM
(I mean the unique human mind, like thinking scientifically, actually doing something instead of hunting and drinking all day etc )

And you are right though, sip of teq. and beer are diffrent.
But exactly, what + sides does alcohol have instead of that "happy feelin"

CairAndros
October 23rd, 2010, 04:04 PM
the most important thing which makes us diffrent from animals: Mind

Ants behave in a similar way to humans, they build colonies, forage for food, bring up their young, defend their homes to the very last. Other animals are similar as well.

The thing that differentiates us from Animals is our ability to plan ahead into the future. Forward thinking. As of yet no animal has been proven, in any tests, to be able to think ahead in such a way that comes close to humans; we can think days, months, years in advance; animals might get the rest of their day planned out or what they are going to do next. The closest animal to us in this regard is the Chimpanzee, although it is still nowhere near human capacity.

The Joker
October 23rd, 2010, 04:30 PM
(I mean the unique human mind, like thinking scientifically, actually doing something instead of hunting and drinking all day etc )

And you are right though, sip of teq. and beer are diffrent.
But exactly, what + sides does alcohol have instead of that "happy feelin"

Here you go. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/alcohol/alcohol_effects.shtml

steve1234
October 23rd, 2010, 05:23 PM
Then get drunk at home, or some place where you're not in public. If you can't handle being intoxicated around other people, and you know that you're going to do something stupid, stay home, watch TV and drink with some friends.


Which is why I have only got drunk twice, and I never intend to get drunk again. I don't even like the taste of alcohol.

ShatteredWings
October 23rd, 2010, 05:30 PM
But exactly, what + sides does alcohol have instead of that "happy feelin"

there's the argument that it kills bacteria, but that's really only aplicable in a time where there was less food sanitation.

steve1234
October 24th, 2010, 05:55 AM
there's the argument that it kills bacteria, but that's really only aplicable in a time where there was less food sanitation.

Thats a good arguement, but not really applicable as you say. Many people just drank beer all the time, as the water was too dirty, even kids drank it.

yeitsRob
October 26th, 2010, 12:19 PM
iv been drunk few times ye had some laughs but had lot more bad times i think its coz i 2 young so im not going 2 get drunk till im 18 well im going 2 try to, some of my m8s say im being boring but i dont care i still have a laugh being with them wen there drunk also i can help them if they get silly, im not saying drink is bad thing just im not ready 4 it yet

Azunite
October 26th, 2010, 12:32 PM
Here you go. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/alcohol/alcohol_effects.shtml

So, it makes you more sociable and relaxing wow what a change

Fact
October 26th, 2010, 02:02 PM
What do you class as being 'drunk' exactly? I'd say I've been drunk because I've got to a point where I'm not totally in control of what I'm doing, but I've never drank so much that I start doing things like taking clothes off/being 'easy' with guys etc.
I will have alcohol occasionally, but definitely not more than once every three months. I know people who when they have alcohol, they drink until they puke everywhere/pass out. THAT I don't see the point in, but drinking socially is a different matter.

The Dark Lord
October 26th, 2010, 02:12 PM
Getting drunk is one of the worst things could happen to you.

If you get drunk in a public place, there is a high chance that you will do something bad , like hitting on your boy friend's girlfriend, argue with someone...

Yeah, I agree with this, being drunk ulters your mental state and makes you act differently. Having said that, I think regardless of mental state most people have enough sense to recognise boundaries. Also I don't see a difference between drinking in private and drinking in public

Alcohol damages the brain, that is a fact. 1 year they say " Some alcohol is good " the next year they say " Even 1 sip of it is bad " .

Source?

You just get drunk, don't remember, don't think, you just become mindless. That is why it is a sin in Islam, because you are disabling the most important thing god gave you, the most important thing which makes us diffrent from animals: Mind

I think you'd be surprised how few islams, and religious people in general, actually follow their beliefs. Animals also have minds, not just as sophisicated as ours

ShyGuyInChicago
October 26th, 2010, 03:49 PM
I don't like the idea of getting drunk. For me it seems irresponsible and can be easily avoided. Alcohol can cause people to do things they would not otherwise do. Not to mention it is dangerous and cause be unhealthy and cause death. Therefore, I do not recommend getting drunk and I recommend people be responsible to drink.