Hitler's Earlier Fascism...

[Azunite]

(I write the following text without any rascist purpose )

So an hour ago I was thinking about this whole Treary of Versailles, the German Breakdown, Hitler taking over the country and making it the most advanced country ( by economics for example, like factories etc. ) in a matter of years.

And in all of his parliament speeces, he always says "German people are above any kind!" and that sort of Fascist stuff...

So, my question... Do you think that Hitler wasn't a Fascist earlier? Like he just wanted to motivate people after all happened to Germany after WW1, by saying that German people are above all ?

What he did to Jewish people may be because he wanted to show German people that those who are below German people will be "dealt with", and after that he marched all over Europe and just zeroed all Human Rights except German people rights.

And then the Germans were like " Whoa, we are so strong we can do everything, come let's finish that Tiger Tank over there " and they started to develop etc....
What are your opinions ?

[scuba steve]

Once a Facist, always a Facist.... These where solely his ideas so I would imagine he had to ease them upon the people covering it with a shade of German superiority and to rebuild the economy.
I think in Hitlers case we can put him in the very short list of born bad :P

[Azunite]

Lol,
But well at least he did well by telling the German people that they owned.
In Turkish War of Independence, Atatürk kept saying things like " Turkish nation can do everything ! Might of Turkish nation can never be broken! " things like that, though he never said like " Come on gents, we are the best of all the world! Lets kick some European ass! "

And some say that Hitler got just "mad" after he seized power over Germany etc...
Aw man, wish that Hitler was accepted to that Art school when he was young :D

[scuba steve]

Lol,
But well at least he did well by telling the German people that they owned.
In Turkish War of Independence, Atatürk kept saying things like " Turkish nation can do everything ! Might of Turkish nation can never be broken! " things like that, though he never said like " Come on gents, we are the best of all the world! Lets kick some European ass! "

And some say that Hitler got just "mad" after he seized power over Germany etc...
Aw man, wish that Hitler was accepted to that Art school when he was young :D

All of it can be drawn back to mindless patriotism of the centurys past, in my opinion i would say that dedicated patriotism has dropped by at least 82% :P
Oddly enough it seems to stereotypically be only the working classes who are truly outspoken about their national patriotism...

[The Dark Lord]

Hitler, like most people in the late 19th/early 20th century Germany, believed that they had a god given right to rule the world. It's a myth that the rise of Adolf Hitler lead to the anti-jewish feeling in Germany, this was a deep-rooted feeling which had grown over many centuries. Hitler was always a facists but I don't think he was mentally deranged or anything like that

[Continuum]

Hitler is quite a fascist. Fascism is extreme Nationalism, remember that. Hitler believed in the superiority of the Germanic race, which he believed to be the descendants of Aryans. Clearly, he used his silver tongue to motivate Germany; It's quite common to hear from a leader, especially in wartime, that your country will "rise" again. He was quite mad at the victory of the allies during world war I, and the unprecedented unfair negotiations at the treaty of Versailles. He didn't become mad during his reign as chancellor, he already was after his time as a small-time member of the Worker Party. He wrote the Mein Kampf during his time of incarceration after a coup led by him. His deranged hatred of Jews, however, are connected somehow to Europe's anti-semite attitude from the medieval period, and also to his belief of the superiority of the Germans.

[CairAndros]

Hitler, whilst a very determined patriot, only seized upon the fascist ideals after he saw how weak democracy was in Germany. Bear in mind that Germany was still a very young country at the time of the Weimar Republic-era, having only been formed after the war with France in 1871 - but that's a different story entirely. Thus he, along with the rest of the Germans, were used to be ruled by the Kaiser - having someone to tell them what to do. Hitler believed that the way to a strong state was a strong leader with every subject of the state working to their utmost to provide for the state. This was shown when he took power with the Fhurerprinzip - Leaders principle. His anti-semitism; whilst partially formed in his head after being rejected by the Art College - which he perceived to be run by 'jews'; was fed by a feeling in Europe that had grown over the centuries. In his speeches he had a cracking ability to sense what the audience wanted to hear, consequently they heard what they wanted to hear. He was also helped by the propaganda machine under Joseph Goebbels - whom many consider to be a better orator than Hitler and the father of modern political campaigns; he designed firework displays etc for Hitler's demonstrations etc that have now been replaced with the stuff you see at modern political rallies and other events.

In response to a statement made earlier about Hitler brining the German economy to the fore. This had been done over a century before. Although it started in Prussia with the creation of the Zollverien in 1815. This was a customs union with the various Germanic states that encouraged trade. So much so that within a few years they were second only to Britain in terms of economic output. This continued to grow until the First World War and was only stopped by the end of the War. Indeed it was merely a temporary setback for the Germans, who regained their economic output under Hitler. So, if anything, he restarted the process but definitely didn't create it.

- sorry for the long post but I've studied Germany for a few years at school; although Nazi Germany and the Second World War are more my areas of expertise.