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mranderson
October 19th, 2010, 10:00 PM
Simple question..should it be? in my opinion it deffinfitly should be just because theres no reaosn for it not to be. cigs, alchohol even mc d's is worse...ur opinion?

Rutherford The Brave
October 19th, 2010, 10:08 PM
I agree with you, although your arguement sucks.

I believe it should be legalized. Because if it is, it will bring down crime. It will help those who need it badly in situations like having cancer. It overall is just a plant that shouldnt be the cause of soo much arguing. For god's sake its just reefer.

Peace God
October 19th, 2010, 10:14 PM
Yes...it costs to much right now.

The Joker
October 19th, 2010, 11:58 PM
If it becomes cheaper, then yes.

mranderson
October 20th, 2010, 03:47 PM
I agree with you, although your arguement sucks.

I believe it should be legalized. Because if it is, it will bring down crime. It will help those who need it badly in situations like having cancer. It overall is just a plant that shouldnt be the cause of soo much arguing. For god's sake its just reefer.

I didnt have alot fo time so i didnt make much of an argument

missSuzi
October 23rd, 2010, 05:58 PM
I think it should be legalized.
It's honestly not as bad as people make it out to be.

Slippy
October 23rd, 2010, 06:12 PM
I would say no. Because not only do I think drug use is wrong, crime is very often committed to raise money to feed a habit. I know this isn't what every drug user is like, but there are still a lot of people like this.

Church
October 23rd, 2010, 09:12 PM
I think it should be legal.

guacamole24
October 23rd, 2010, 10:55 PM
I think that they should legalize it. I am sure that people would be a lot nicer all over town if they were high lol. But in all seriousness, if it can't be legalized fully, then medical marijuana should be legalized everywhere.

NovaCoru
October 24th, 2010, 12:22 AM
I like the Netherlands model: if its a problem that doesn't seriously hurt people and is never going to go away, why spend so much money fighting it when you can regulate and tax it? I mean, think what happened with prohibition. It also decreases danger as you don't have to worry about spiked stuff as it would have to be processed and inspected.

danielf123
October 24th, 2010, 06:08 PM
yes and no
depends on how you look at it
here in calirfornia theres something called prop 19 that would make it legal in the same way as alcohol
which in essence doesnt mean total legalization and in fact would make the crme rate go up because if it passes, anyone caught with any amount of weed will go to jail if under 21
right now the law is its decriminalized in california, making its so that if you get caught with an ounce or less, its an up to $100 fine and misdemanor, but they changed that to just an up to $100 fine and now its an infraction, meaning there wont even bea criminal record, just a fine of no more then $100

legalization is a hard subject cuz if we did, it comes down to who will it be regulated
like one thing from prop 19
an adult can not smoke it around a minor, including in their ow home, but then it gets into a grey area, like, does that mea only if the minor i in the same room? or the same house? could your kid be in their room and you smoke in your room? or can you not smoke period because your kid is in the house? Which i think is straight stupid because people drinkand smoke ciggs around minors all the time and no one gives a shit, even though the second hand smoke could cause cancer or the person could get drunk, enraged, and then beat said child

gbboone
October 25th, 2010, 07:58 PM
Yes. It's a victimless crime. Of corse the person who takes it may get hurt, but it's not forced on anyone. Also we would stop filling our prisons with guys who got cause with a gram of weed.

danielf123
October 26th, 2010, 06:00 PM
Yes. It's a victimless crime. Of corse the person who takes it may get hurt, but it's not forced on anyone. Also we would stop filling our prisons with guys who got cause with a gram of weed.

thats the whole point of Decriminalization
in states where its decriminalized, if you have an ounce (28.5g) or less on you, its a misdemanor and a fine

calfornia especially, where now, its only an up to $100 fine and infraction meaning, there is no longer a criminal record if you get caught with an ounce or less on you, only a $100 fine and thats it

Jhon
October 28th, 2010, 04:37 PM
I think it should be the only reason it ant is cuz they can't tax it

Kloppn
November 2nd, 2010, 01:05 AM
Dude i love how you say McDonalds is worse that is such a good point! lol! I think it should be there really is nothing wrong with it i think that only reason that they dont is because the government needs the money form all the drug bust and fines. There is nothing negative about it lol!

Kloppn
November 2nd, 2010, 01:06 AM
True that you are so right lol!

BuryYourFlame
November 2nd, 2010, 01:48 AM
I think it should, but with restriction. As the OP said, things such as alcohol and cigarettes are permitted, but again, with restriction. Although this is not a premise for legalisation in itself, it does make you think why things such as alcohol etc. are legal in the first place. The only conclusion that can be made is that people have a right to their own body, and if no-one is harmed in the process (very little damage is done to the user as well), then there is not much of a case against it. Of course, there will be exceptions, like with everything within society, but these exceptions would not outweigh the benefits for medicinal or even recreational use.

mranderson
November 2nd, 2010, 05:28 PM
Dude i love how you say McDonalds is worse that is such a good point! lol! I think it should be there really is nothing wrong with it i think that only reason that they dont is because the government needs the money form all the drug bust and fines. There is nothing negative about it lol!

The thing is there not making money from it, in Canada alone, The Govornment spends millions and millions of dollars a year on Drug busting alone. I dont remember the exact amount.But 80% of all those funds goes into marijuana alone. so everything like heroin and coke is still out there

ShatteredWings
November 2nd, 2010, 05:43 PM
This is a debate. Moving to ROTW where it'll get more traffic.

Amnesiac
November 2nd, 2010, 06:49 PM
If it becomes cheaper, then yes.

Legalizing marijuana would make it cheaper.

The War on Drugs is a futile effort that has wasted billions of dollars a year for the past 4 decades. It's ridiculous. If we were to legalize weed, the internal warfare going on throughout Mexico would end and the problem of prison overcrowding would almost disappear. The potential earnings from taxation are lucrative. Legalization has nothing but benefits.

Damn social conservatives.

Korashk
November 2nd, 2010, 08:04 PM
Legalizing marijuana would make it cheaper.

The War on Drugs is a futile effort that has wasted billions of dollars a year for the past 4 decades. It's ridiculous. If we were to legalize weed, the internal warfare going on throughout Mexico would end and the problem of prison overcrowding would almost disappear. The potential earnings from taxation are lucrative. Legalization has nothing but benefits.

Damn social conservatives.

Pretty much this except for the taxation part, and Darth knows why I'm against that.

TopGear
November 2nd, 2010, 08:05 PM
Legalizing marijuana would make it cheaper.

The War on Drugs is a futile effort that has wasted billions of dollars a year for the past 4 decades. It's ridiculous. If we were to legalize weed, the internal warfare going on throughout Mexico would end and the problem of prison overcrowding would almost disappear. The potential earnings from taxation are lucrative. Legalization has nothing but benefits.

Damn social conservatives.

I don't know any other way to put that.... and your right Damn social conservatives.

mranderson
November 2nd, 2010, 08:53 PM
I dont know if any of you know this, but the reason marujuana was illeagalised is very stupid. Marujuana all started with hemp, not smokeing it. But one day in southern usa, some African americans started smokeing it and while walking down the street high from marujuana , the black folks, pretty much didnt treat them how the white people felt they should have treated them which was like kings. So then marujuana was illeagalized to prevent this.

Church
November 2nd, 2010, 09:03 PM
I think it should be legal.

Peace God
November 2nd, 2010, 09:30 PM
I dont know if any of you know this, but the reason marujuana was illeagalised is very stupid. Marujuana all started with hemp, not smokeing it. But one day in southern usa, some African americans started smokeing it and while walking down the street high from marujuana , the black folks, pretty much didnt treat them how the white people felt they should have treated them which was like kings. So then marujuana was illeagalized to prevent this.
well racism against blacks was part of it
but there was also the racism against mexican immigrants who also grew and smoked weed...in fact the reason the name of the plant was changed to "marijuana", was so that it could sound mexican to white people

but i think one of the main reasons it is illegal is because of the propaganda campaigns("reefer madness" etc) started by the timber industry who felt threatened by the numerous uses(paper, textiles, medicinal properties etc) and cheaper prices of hemp

If we were to legalize weed, the internal warfare going on throughout Mexico would end.
weed isnt the only drug down there

Amnesiac
November 2nd, 2010, 09:32 PM
weed isnt the only drug down there

It's by far the most in-demand in the United States. From that we can conclude that it's what's fueling a large chunk of the illegal cartel activity in Mexico.

Peace God
November 2nd, 2010, 09:45 PM
It's by far the most in-demand in the United States. From that we can conclude that it's what's fueling a large chunk of the illegal cartel activity in Mexico.
but they also supply a large amount of cocaine and heroin (drugs that are far more lucrative)

plus, a lot of our weed is coming from other places...california produces about 1/3 of our nations weed, british columbia also makes a lot(it even has it own weed named after it) and so do several countries in the middle east

Amnesiac
November 2nd, 2010, 10:03 PM
but they also supply a large amount of cocaine and heroin (drugs that are far more lucrative)

plus, a lot of our weed is coming from other places...california produces about 1/3 of our nations weed, british columbia also makes a lot(it even has it own weed named after it) and so do several countries in the middle east

Either way you look at it, legalization's still going to help with the situation in Mexico. The biggest difference, however, will be in the prison population and money saved/made.

closed
November 3rd, 2010, 12:16 AM
it's illeagel because of the addiction it cancause people. It isn't as destructive as other drugs, but still clouds your judgment. It can ruin your life, and just isn't recommended even if it was lleagel.
Just don't.

Amnesiac
November 3rd, 2010, 12:19 AM
it's illeagel because of the addiction it cancause people. It isn't as destructive as other drugs, but still clouds your judgment. It can ruin your life, and just isn't recommended even if it was lleagel.
Just don't.

False; weed is less addicting than both tobacco and alcohol. Significantly less addicting. Actually, it isn't addicting at all.

mranderson
November 3rd, 2010, 05:11 PM
well racism against blacks was part of it
but there was also the racism against mexican immigrants who also grew and smoked weed...in fact the reason the name of the plant was changed to "marijuana", was so that it could sound mexican to white people



exactly what i meant, it was racism.


And arches, there are ALOT of things that can ruin your lifes, and there are people who smoke pot that live a great life. Not alot of alchoholic and Hard drug users can do much of anything.


I think the reason alot of people are against it is
1. its illegal. If alchohol was illegal, alot less people i would guess wouldnt wanna drink it cause it is illegal. Even though it is for people under 18-21 deppending on where you are.
2. It puts u into a different state. You get mellowed out, and to some they would think theres something wrong with u.
3. All the stupid advertisements on tv than show this horrific stuff to non pot users that seem scary but seem funny to pot users
like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhjwUR2SeAE omg i laughed so hard when just watching this xDDDD

Rutherford The Brave
November 3rd, 2010, 05:22 PM
False; weed is less addicting than both tobacco and alcohol. Significantly less addicting. Actually, it isn't addicting at all.

Also to say that something is addicting dont do it is stupid as well. What if I like that its addicting?

RandomNobody1
November 4th, 2010, 12:01 AM
No. It shouldn't. I've seen it ruin far too many lives to ever want it legalized. Alcohol is legal because we tried to prohibit it and it failed and killed part of the economy.

To say that we should do it because it will cut down crime is saying we should just have no laws because there'd be no crimes. It's laziness and EXTREMELY poor reasoning.

Amnesiac
November 4th, 2010, 12:47 AM
No. It shouldn't. I've seen it ruin far too many lives to ever want it legalized. Alcohol is legal because we tried to prohibit it and it failed and killed part of the economy.

To say that we should do it because it will cut down crime is saying we should just have no laws because there'd be no crimes. It's laziness and EXTREMELY poor reasoning.

How many times must I reference this graph?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependen ce).svg

There are plenty of things that can ruin lives if used improperly. If you eat too much McDonald's, you can ruin your life. Does that mean McDonald's should be illegal?

Legalization will cut our prison population, help with our drug "situations" in other nations, and save money. What's not to love?

Korashk
November 4th, 2010, 12:56 AM
No. It shouldn't. I've seen it ruin far too many lives to ever want it legalized.
I'd like some numbers on how many people's lives were ruined by the effects of weed.

To say that we should do it because it will cut down crime is saying we should just have no laws because there'd be no crimes. It's laziness and EXTREMELY poor reasoning.
Do you sweriously consider doing drugs to be a true crime?

Sith Lord 13
November 7th, 2010, 04:29 AM
False; weed is less addicting than both tobacco and alcohol. Significantly less addicting. Actually, it isn't addicting at all.

Not quite true, it's as addicting as any other pleasant activity, such as shopping or playing video games.

Magus
November 7th, 2010, 07:17 AM
How many times must I reference this graph?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependen ce).svg

You keep doing that. Some people might even try and experiment the yellow ones.

I'd say they should legalise LSD, as it once was legal. Try to explore the mind, you see.

LSD is less toxic than Aspirin?

Rutherford The Brave
November 7th, 2010, 11:36 AM
Do you know that 1 person every thirty seven seconds is arrested for something weed related. Do you not think thats insane.

TopGear
November 7th, 2010, 11:56 AM
Not quite true, it's as addicting as any other pleasant activity, such as shopping or playing video games.


I would have to agree with this, Just because something is not physically addicting, I can be mentally addicting.

Kakka123
November 7th, 2010, 02:33 PM
Someday.
They just dont have the balls to legalize it

Amnesiac
November 7th, 2010, 04:29 PM
Someday.
They just dont have the balls to legalize it

It'll definitely happen soon. It may not seem like it, but the United States is slowly becoming more liberal as the conservative elderly and baby-boomers die off and the younger generations — who vote for the Democrats in large numbers — move into the political sphere.

mranderson
November 7th, 2010, 07:54 PM
It'll definitely happen soon. It may not seem like it, but the United States is slowly becoming more liberal as the conservative elderly and baby-boomers die off and the younger generations — who vote for the Democrats in large numbers — move into the political sphere.

I think canada will get it before USA

ShatteredWings
November 8th, 2010, 08:27 PM
I think canada will get it before USA

Well, duh?

Canada already has pot legal in small quantities.

Peace God
November 8th, 2010, 08:36 PM
Canada already has pot legal in small quantities.
plus they already have a nationwide medical marijuana program