View Full Version : "Multiverse" and Deja-Vu
mxrider155
October 17th, 2010, 07:53 PM
Ok, deja-vu. You know when it happens, but you just can't explain it. You swear this happened before, but you have no idea when. Many scientists believe that the "universe" is actually made up of several parallel universes, where anything that could have happened, did.
What if these episodes of deja-vu where actually events that occured already in another universe, but not at the same time as they did in our universe right now? Just something to think about...
Commander Thor
October 17th, 2010, 08:13 PM
The parallel universes cannot interact with each other (To the best of my knowledge). While, yes, in one of the parallel universes something you thought you've seen before you may have actually seen, there's no way of that memory of seeing said thing being able to transfer over into this universe. (If that made any sense at all. I'm tired :p )
Perseus
October 17th, 2010, 09:03 PM
I find the concept of multiverse a very cool theory, but alas, one that can't be proven. :P
Amnesiac
October 17th, 2010, 09:14 PM
I find the concept of multiverse a very cool theory, but alas, one that can't be proven. :P
Indeed, so it's a pointless thing to think about.
Perseus
October 17th, 2010, 09:17 PM
Indeed, so it's a pointless thing to think about.
It's not pointless. I really like the idea of multiverse. Like I like the idea of there being a big bang after our universe dies and making a new universe. I love a lot of theories in science. I am intrigued by them. Especially evolution.
Amnesiac
October 17th, 2010, 09:38 PM
It's not pointless. I really like the idea of multiverse. Like I like the idea of there being a big bang after our universe dies and making a new universe. I love a lot of theories in science. I am intrigued by them. Especially evolution.
It's interesting, yes, but in the end there's no point in thinking about it. It's like playing video games, there's no benefit in the end.
Perseus
October 17th, 2010, 09:39 PM
there's no benefit in the end.
Yeah huh. D:<
Amnesiac
October 17th, 2010, 09:46 PM
Yeah huh. D:<
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/6/24/youwantthetru128588361801376886.jpg
But yeah, now that we're off-topic, I'll run away before a mod comes in :P
Perseus
October 17th, 2010, 09:56 PM
I experience deja vu quite a lot. It's creepy because when I realize it, I just sit or stand there and stop and stare and contemplate.
deadpie
October 17th, 2010, 11:19 PM
Well, in theory, every decision we make creates more alternative universes, thus making an infinite amount with the amount of choices each single human being makes. Personally, I do believe that Deja Vu is a form of seeing something that has been seen in an alternative universe, but that's something that is based on theory and you should strongly question.
What really should be an interesting question is if our universe that we're in right now is an alternative universe itself? Is our universe branched out from one of the previous choices one of the billions of us humans have created? Is there a stable universe where these alternative universes branch out into creation from decisions we make? How would be know which is the stable universe? Are we the stable universe?
Really, all of it is based on theories that cannot really be answered, but I love the topic. It's been the center of my madness and delusions.
mxrider155
October 18th, 2010, 09:37 PM
Well, in theory, every decision we make creates more alternative universes, thus making an infinite amount with the amount of choices each single human being makes. Personally, I do believe that Deja Vu is a form of seeing something that has been seen in an alternative universe, but that's something that is based on theory and you should strongly question.
What really should be an interesting question is if our universe that we're in right now is an alternative universe itself? Is our universe branched out from one of the previous choices one of the billions of us humans have created? Is there a stable universe where these alternative universes branch out into creation from decisions we make? How would be know which is the stable universe? Are we the stable universe?
Really, all of it is based on theories that cannot really be answered, but I love the topic. It's been the center of my madness and delusions.
umm yeah, summed up my thoughts exactly. and yes it is like a video game, with no tangible sense of reward, but the fun is in the journey and debating, not the ending
Continuum
October 19th, 2010, 12:04 AM
umm yeah, summed up my thoughts exactly. and yes it is like a video game, with no tangible sense of reward, but the fun is in the journey and debating, not the ending
And also the fun memories of pushing others' beliefs to the brink. ;)
CairAndros
October 21st, 2010, 05:42 AM
I have an interesting theory. Everyone assumes that Parallel Universes, because of their name, are actually travelling along in true parallel fashion to our own. Believing this removes the idea of Deja Vu as we cannot have any interaction with the other universes to justify it. My theory is as follows; the universes do not travel in straight lines but weave about. This, therefore, allows for interaction between the universes as they can cut through each other. This cutting through each other is important for Deja Vu as the cutting across allows for memories to be transferred between yourself and your alternate self.
Magus
October 23rd, 2010, 12:48 AM
I experience deja vu quite a lot. It's creepy because when I realize it, I just sit or stand there and stop and stare and contemplate.
Me too. And a lot at that. You really have the strong feeling that you were here, at this time, it happened before, but it didn't or perhaps it did, just repeating itself.
What really should be an interesting question is if our universe that we're in right now is an alternative universe itself? Is our universe branched out from one of the previous choices one of the billions of us humans have created? Is there a stable universe where these alternative universes branch out into creation from decisions we make? How would be know which is the stable universe? Are we the stable universe?
If we are to built a time machine, and moved in to the future, saw the future, and then came back. And a time later, we move again into future, only to see the future is totally different then what we have perceived in our earlier flight. This might give some of the answers about the fluctuating and erratic future.
I, for one, do not believe in Multiverse. If there are multiple universes, then I am certain that they are parallel and do not cross each other.
http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080523/images/news.2008.854.jpg
CairAndros
October 23rd, 2010, 04:19 AM
If you do not believe in the Multiverse theory do you therefore believe that Humanity has 'powers'(for want of a better word) that we have not yet accessed to be used all the time but can, on occasion, be activated at random points. With one of these powers being the ability to see into the future and thus create Deja Vu?
Korashk
October 31st, 2010, 12:48 AM
I find the concept of multiverse a very cool theory, but alas, one that can't be proven. :P
Not true, sort of. I now introduce you to the concept of Quantum Suicide (http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/quantum-suicide.htm)
Magus
October 31st, 2010, 04:33 AM
If you do not believe in the Multiverse theory do you therefore believe that Humanity has 'powers'(for want of a better word) that we have not yet accessed to be used all the time but can, on occasion, be activated at random points. With one of these powers being the ability to see into the future and thus create Deja Vu?
That's not how Deja Vu works. Deja Vu is strongly connected on to how the brain works. That strong feeling of seeing before is probably true, because in the past you were sitting there, staring at the same space, and there you think you have seen this thing before - other strong feelings of 'seeing before' will come out like for e.g. my friend passed by the dustbin, but that never happened before. This is your brain tricking you, man.
Not true, sort of. I now introduce you to the concept of Quantum Suicide (http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/quantum-suicide.htm)
I can't see the connection, other than that there are two events that will continuously happen(?) - and Michio Kaku is one crazy son of a gun.
CairAndros
October 31st, 2010, 05:34 AM
That's not how Deja Vu works. Deja Vu is strongly connected on to how the brain works. That strong feeling of seeing before is probably true, because in the past you were sitting there, staring at the same space, and there you think you have seen this thing before - other strong feelings of 'seeing before' will come out like for e.g. my friend passed by the dustbin, but that never happened before. This is your brain tricking you, man.
In all reality I do not know fully how it works or if it is the brain tricking us or whether it is something else. I think at the point I posted that I was playing the Devil's Advocate in order to generate a debate :P
BuryYourFlame
October 31st, 2010, 05:40 AM
Something really interesting that I heard (just interesting, not vouching for accuracy or saying it's what I believe) was that when you feel like you're falling in a dream and you wake up and spasm, is when another 'you' dies in an alternate universe. The brain is pretty awesome when you think about it (Y)
CairAndros
October 31st, 2010, 06:13 AM
The brain is pretty awesome; we don't know what it is capable of yet. I think we could do some pretty awesome stuff if we did fully understand the brain and what it could do :P
Magus
October 31st, 2010, 07:03 AM
Something really interesting that I heard (just interesting, not vouching for accuracy or saying it's what I believe) was that when you feel like you're falling in a dream and you wake up and spasm, is when another 'you' dies in an alternate universe. The brain is pretty awesome when you think about it (Y)
Sounds like the 'sleep paralysis' to me.
The brain is pretty awesome; we don't know what it is capable of yet. I think we could do some pretty awesome stuff if we did fully understand the brain and what it could do :P
Agreed.
CairAndros
October 31st, 2010, 08:07 AM
Any theories on what the brain could do?
Magus
October 31st, 2010, 08:12 AM
Any theories on what the brain could do?
Brain sends in electromagnetic waves to and fro(which explains phenomenons like telepathy). People are trying to make robotic prosthetics that works via brain waves. Just by thinking, you can easily move those mechatronic objects.
CairAndros
October 31st, 2010, 08:16 AM
Yeah. I saw a program once where this Uni professor in England had several implants in his arm that when he hooked it up to a special glove he could actually control a robot with his hand; all very basic stuff though; like move forward,backwards etc. But it does show us the way things will get to be in the future (I)
Korashk
October 31st, 2010, 02:21 PM
I can't see the connection, other than that there are two events that will continuously happen(?) - and Michio Kaku is one crazy son of a gun.
In at least one universe the man will continually pull the trigger but the gun will never fire. That universe will know that parallel universes exist.
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