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Amnesiac
October 16th, 2010, 05:06 PM
Yasir Afifi, a 20-year-old computer salesman and community college student, took his car in for an oil change earlier this month and his mechanic spotted an odd wire hanging from the undercarriage.

The wire was attached to a strange magnetic device that puzzled Afifi and the mechanic. They freed it from the car and posted images of it online, asking for help in identifying it.

Two days later, FBI agents arrived at Afifi's Santa Clara apartment and demanded the return of their property — a global positioning system tracking device now at the center of a raging legal debate over privacy rights.

One federal judge wrote that the widespread use of the device was straight out of George Orwell's novel, "1984".

"By holding that this kind of surveillance doesn't impair an individual's reasonable expectation of privacy, the panel hands the government the power to track the movements of every one of us, every day of our lives," wrote Alex Kozinski, the chief judge of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in a blistering dissent in which a three-judge panel from his court ruled that search warrants weren't necessary for GPS tracking.

But other federal and state courts have come to the opposite conclusion.
Law enforcement advocates for the devices say GPS can eliminate time-consuming stakeouts and old-fashioned "tails" with unmarked police cars. The technology had a starring role in the HBO cops-and-robbers series "The Wire" and police use it to track every type of suspect — from terrorist to thieves stealing copper from air conditioners.

From here. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101016/ap_on_re_us/us_gps_tracking_warrants)

That's it. The government is watching you, and they don't even have a good goddamn reason to do it.

lamboman43
October 16th, 2010, 05:15 PM
Meh. You get used to it after awhile. And guess what! You nor I can do anything about it! Dont you just love the government.

Amnesiac
October 16th, 2010, 06:21 PM
Meh. You get used to it after awhile. And guess what! You nor I can do anything about it! Dont you just love the government.

No, I'm pretty sure you could file suit and get that policy overturned. I mean, it's not impossible to change it.

Also, I LOVE MY GOVERNMENT MASTERS.

scuba steve
October 16th, 2010, 06:34 PM
Also, I LOVE MY GOVERNMENT MASTERS.

Psssstt...! Pssssstt...! hey, good cover Muhamed.... They won't suspect a thing.

Amnesiac
October 16th, 2010, 07:16 PM
Psssstt...! Pssssstt...! hey, good cover Muhamed.... They won't suspect a thing.

Damn right they won't.

lamboman43
October 16th, 2010, 07:30 PM
No, I'm pretty sure you could file suit and get that policy overturned. I mean, it's not impossible to change it.

Also, I LOVE MY GOVERNMENT MASTERS.

It will just be extremely hard. I don't have the time nor money to bother with it. If you do I support you 300%.

Amnesiac
October 16th, 2010, 08:23 PM
It will just be extremely hard. I don't have the time nor money to bother with it. If you do I support you 300%.

Nah, I'm not old enough anyway :P

lamboman43
October 16th, 2010, 09:54 PM
Nah, I'm not old enough anyway :P

I'll just have to rely on someone else :(

Sith Lord 13
October 18th, 2010, 09:24 AM
Do you need a warrant to do in person surveillance? The only difference I see between this and that is this is cheaper.