Do you think there will be a Nuclear Apocalypse?

[Azunite]

So, posting this came up on my mind after I sold my Fallout 3 and bought Metro 2033...
Do you think there will be a nuclear apocalypse ? Like Nukes blown up everywhere, you survived in an underground shelter, you come out, what you see is a wasteland...
No sign of mankind, maybe some mutation...
Pockets of radiation everywhere...

Do you think such thing will happen, or do you think you will experience it ?

[Amnesiac]

It's a possibility, but with the banishment of building new nuclear weapons and many nations decommissioning their entire arsenals, it's becoming less of a likely scenario.

[scuba steve]

It's a possibility, but with the banishment of building new nuclear weapons and many nations decommissioning their entire arsenals, it's becoming less of a likely scenario.

No... ^ this is the most likely outcome of the next 50 years. It will no longer be physical destruction, only economical.

[Magus]

http://www.northernsun.com/images/imagelarge/Peace-Sign-Button-(0685).jpg
Make peace.

You have more than 60 countries, ready to deploy nuclear rockets/bomb. That's not nice.

As TDE said, it is a possibility.Can you survive (http://www.ehow.com/how_2100154_survive-post-nuclear-apocalyptic-future.html) the nuclear winter?

[Azunite]

Faris I can't think you trying to manage a nuclear fallout shelter :D
I read the guide and this guide only works for Fallout 3 lol

[Sogeking]

I wouldn't say impossible but it's unlikely the world is not that stupid

[Continuum]

Faris I can't think you trying to manage a nuclear fallout shelter :D
I read the guide and this guide only works for Fallout 3 lol

And fallout 3 is a clear representation of the horrors of post-nuclear war. We should really learn from that game, unless someone blows a nuke and sparks total annihilation of the world. :D

[Azunite]

Yeah but do you think that you will emerge out from a shelter after years, then find a settlement made around a nuke, go to your local town memorial and find a purifier... :D

[scuba steve]

Yeah but do you think that you will emerge out from a shelter after years, then find a settlement made around a nuke, go to your local town memorial and find a purifier... :D

When you think about it, if the events of nuclear holacuast where to happen, this could all be plausable. Shelters manufactured to spare few and people setting up camp in a crater crafted by a nuclear bomb that never detonated due to technical error trying to get into the shelter (although nowadays nukes are much smaller so the whole crater is probably out.) And yes a first step towards civilisation will be to finally create a purifier to cover a mass area of land.

[Azunite]

Lol I adore your fantasy

[Magus]

And fallout 3 is a clear representation of the horrors of post-nuclear war. We should really learn from that game, unless someone blows a nuke and sparks total annihilation of the world. :D

Fallout series has taken a lot of elements out of its predecessor, Wasteland. Play that game, and then talk about post-apocalypse events.

Quoting me self!

1)Nuclear Storm: Yes. As the name implies, a nuclear war arises, and does nothing but utter eradication of life on this planet.

Wasteland, a videogame that depicts a non-distant reality. Human survived the apocalypse of the Nuclear catastrophe. But, are they able to survive on this deformed, mutated planet?

[scuba steve]

Fallout series has taken a lot of elements out of its predecessor, Wasteland. Play that game, and then talk about post-apocalypse events.

Quoting me self!

holy shit the plot for wasteland is the basis for the creation of the Brotherhood of Steel in the Fallout Chronological timeline. I would get this game if it wasn't made during the actual reign of the Soviet Union.:P

[Whisper]

3mn-1LuLhrw

No there won't be a "nuclear apocalypse"
But there will be a terrorist attacks with a nuclear device
its a matter of time really, especially when you look at how shitty the USSR handled the security of them nevermind with it fell. Add to that Iran, North Korea, etc...
Especially with this "war on terror" all we've managed to do is create allot of hatred towards the west.

[scuba steve]

The one good thing that Boris Yeltzin has ever done :P

[KodieBear]

i think there might be one in the distant future...but you never know. as for the Zombie Apocalypse...its definitely going to happen! lol :)

[scuba steve]

i think there might be one in the distant future...but you never know. as for the Zombie Apocalypse...its definitely going to happen! lol :)

O.o ooooooooooo, this would be so fun if you had an m1a1 rifle with a shitload of ammo

[Continuum]

O.o ooooooooooo, this would be so fun if you had an m1a1 rifle with a shitload of ammo

It's much more fun when you have an axe and a console. ;)

Fallout series has taken a lot of elements out of its predecessor, Wasteland. Play that game, and then talk about post-apocalypse events.


That game's 8 years older than me! It's older than my dead-beat computer which my parents bought a decade ago! :P

[Magus]

No there won't be a "nuclear apocalypse"
But there will be a terrorist attacks with a nuclear device
its a matter of time really, especially when you look at how shitty the USSR handled the security of them nevermind with it fell.
There won't be a nuclear apocalypse, but there will be a nuclear winter.

I am quite sure that you know about Pakistan as a Nuclear Power-ed country, and it is also the most susceptible to a terrorist attack/hijack, too. What do you think will happen when the terrorist gets a hold of 20 nuclear warheads? Exactly; a big, purple mushrooms.

Oh! And a Baluchi liberation! ALALALALALALALALALA! A Free Below-chest-tan!
That game's 8 years older than me! It's older than my dead-beat computer which my parents bought a decade ago! :P
In this age, nothing is impossible.

[Whisper]

i know pakistan's a shithole (shocker there)
I left it out on purpose tho
i was trying to be nice cause supposedly they're helping us against al qaeda
that whole enemy of my enemy is my friend thing

and 20 nukes is nowhere near enough for a nuclear winter
the western nations, the USSR, india, etc.. have detonated far more then that already
and theres noway they would gain access to every nuke.


but like i said
weither its Iran, DPRK, Pakistan, or the hundreds of missing nukes that have been lost by the Russians and the States (the americans dropped one over Canadas west coast for example), a nuclear device is going to be used in a terrorist act in our future. It's a terrifying thought, but it will happen. I just hope its not a dirty bomb.

[Cjg1075]

you can't say if a nuclear apocalypse will happen but when will it happen. There are 10 nations with nuclear stock piles if one decides to escalate to say stop a advance well that could bring in bigger and bigger country's till all out nuclear war.

[CairAndros]

There are 10 nations with nuclear stock piles if one decides to escalate to say stop a advance well that could bring in bigger and bigger country's till all out nuclear war.

All countries with nuclear stockpiles have signed an international agreement to not produce any more nuclear weapons and are actually in the process of decommissioning their stockpiles; reducing the threat of nuclear war.

I do think that some terrorist organisation or other might get their hands on a nuclear device and intend to use it in an attack. However, such a thing would more than likely be stopped as they would try hold someplace to ransom or whatever - giving the world(cause lets face it; no-one wants to see a nuclear device go off anywhere) a chance to act in a concentrated way to discover the location of said device and disarm it etc.

[Azunite]

All countries with nuclear stockpiles have signed an international agreement to not produce any more nuclear weapons and are actually in the process of decommissioning their stockpiles; reducing the threat of nuclear war.

I do think that some terrorist organisation or other might get their hands on a nuclear device and intend to use it in an attack. However, such a thing would more than likely be stopped as they would try hold someplace to ransom or whatever - giving the world(cause lets face it; no-one wants to see a nuclear device go off anywhere) a chance to act in a concentrated way to discover the location of said device and disarm it etc.

There are no rules in war, all treaties will be terminated so let's just not rely on the " I promise i won't use a nuke " thing

[CairAndros]

However, this is not war and efforts are underway to reduce the amount of nuclear warheads in existence.

[Amnesiac]

All countries with nuclear stockpiles have signed an international agreement to not produce any more nuclear weapons and are actually in the process of decommissioning their stockpiles; reducing the threat of nuclear war.

Well, there are those rouge nations like North Korea who are still developing and testing nuclear weapons.

[CairAndros]

Agreed. But those tests are being closely monitored. At the moment they have a bomb that is roughly the same as the Hiroshima bomb. Should things get too dangerous then measures will be taken to intervene and rectify the situation =]

[Azunite]

Intervention would be a war, and no super-laser weapon cannot stop Korea's thousand nukes. You are underestimating Rogue Countries.

No peace treaty has been signed between NKorea and US actually, but they don't fight. Why? Because the sides are afraid of the opposite side'S nukes

[CairAndros]

North Korea does not possess the thousand nukes you claim it does. To possess such an arsenal the country would firstly need to be free of the economic sanctions that are in place upon it. Secondly they would have to have been working flat out from roughly the same time the Americans or Russians started producing their nukes to accumulate that number of warheads. Considering that they have just had their first nuclear test I find that outcome highly improbable. Thirdly; the country cannot produce enough electricity for its whole capital - how then can they produce enough electricity to run the factories and laboratories needed to create the nuclear warheads?

[Azunite]

Lol can't believe you, did I really mean a thousand nuke ?
And it isn't just the nukes, it is nuclear weapons in general.

Then why people are afraid from Korea?

[scuba steve]

Lol can't believe you, did I really mean a thousand nuke ?
And it isn't just the nukes, it is nuclear weapons in general.

Then why people are afraid from Korea?

Well they are more or less the only Cold war era locked country of the 21st century with the whole population being in the DPRK reserve force giving them one of the largest armies in the world, add in a completely unstable leader and nuke development to top it all off... That's why people are scared. They're the only real danger to modern society except for middle eastern terrorists etc.
although their missile testing showed that they couldn't even make it to Japanese waters and they wouldn't attack China.
Finally a side note they are not technically at war with any country except for South Korea they simply wouldn't hesitate to kill a US soldier because the the US has been training SK troops as of late along with the aggresive history of the two country's.

[Azunite]

SK troop ?

[scuba steve]

SK troop ?

South Korean military soldier (aka troop.)

[Azunite]

SK = South Korea of course :D
Lol im so dumb

[CairAndros]

Lol can't believe you, did I really mean a thousand nuke ?
And it isn't just the nukes, it is nuclear weapons in general.

Your english might be a little bad but, yes, that is what you meant by thousand nuke. And what other nuclear weapons do you get? Because, to the best of my knowledge, nuclear reactors do not count as weapons - unless you intend to have your county commit suicide by causing a meltdown of the core and thus creating a Chernobyl like state. If you mean use the nuclear power to create reactors to be used in submarines or surface warships then it still doesnt count as a weapon unless you intend to beach the ship on the shore of the country you are at war with; provided you can actually get to their shore(which his highly unlikely considering the size of the US Navy and the extreme skill of the Royal Navy), then do as above with the country suicide method. All in all, your argument there is flawed.

add in a completely unstable leader

Look at him :P He is the Asian answer to Elton John :L

[scuba steve]

Kim Jong Il :P
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Everyone%20Else/images/kim-jong-il-smiling.jpg

[Continuum]

Well they are more or less the only Cold war era locked country of the 21st century with the whole population being in the DPRK reserve force giving them one of the largest armies in the world, add in a completely unstable leader and nuke development to top it all off... That's why people are scared. They're the only real danger to modern society except for middle eastern terrorists etc.

Not just unstable, their eternal president/God is dead. :rolleyes:

http://www.mstrum.com/onmywaytokorea/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/north-korean-propaganda-other-3.jpg

Hail Kim Il Sung, our utmost vicarious God King of the sun :P

[Azunite]

thousand nuke was a figurative expression...
And why would nuclear reactors count as nuclear weapons, you can't throw a reactor over someone :P

And there are major and minor nukes. Major ones destroy entire cities, like Hiroshima. Minor ones just open up titanic craters and only has a small area of effect

[mrmcdonaldduck]

thousand nuke was a figurative expression...
And why would nuclear reactors count as nuclear weapons, you can't throw a reactor over someone :P

And there are major and minor nukes. Major ones destroy entire cities, like Hiroshima. Minor ones just open up titanic craters and only has a small area of effect

Actually, in the scheme of things, the 2 nukes dropped on japan where pretty small, less then fifty kilotons each. Given that most nuclear weapons today are at least 500 KT, i would be worried about any nuke at all.

[CairAndros]

As I pointed out you could use a nuclear reactor as a weapon, just not in the conventional sense. Besides, I only brought them into the discussion because your reply left me trying to understand what sort of nuclear weapons - besides the nuclear warheads - you could have.

[Continuum]

Actually, in the scheme of things, the 2 nukes dropped on japan where pretty small, less then fifty kilotons each. Given that most nuclear weapons today are at least 500 KT, i would be worried about any nuke at all.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Comparative_nuclear_fireball_sizes.svg/250px-Comparative_nuclear_fireball_sizes.svg.png

http://www.blogiseverything.com/files/pics/nuclear_bomb_comparison_thumb.jpg

Using this two pictures as actual comparison, you'd definitely won't need a larger bomb than what nagasaki felt during world war II. Anything more than 25 kilotons is just overkill.

Thank the Russians for preventing the Tsar Bomba from reaching its full potential. It'd be likely that it blew Novaya Zemlya to chunks if it did. :P

[Azunite]

Holy sh!t !!!!! ( for that image )

[Whisper]

Ya Gaul I agree the Tzar bomb was actually detonated at half capacity
The scientists that built it cut the power in half at the last minute before take off because they were terrified at what a 100 megaton bomb would do

[Continuum]

Ya Gaul I agree the Tzar bomb was actually detonated at half capacity
The scientists that built it cut the power in half at the last minute before take off because they were terrified at what a 100 megaton bomb would do

It might've blown a hole in the fabric of space-time if it did. :P

Let's thank the Russians for averting such disaster from reaching us.

[Awesome]

If it is going to happen, It would happen within the next 10 years most likely. It seems with our technology now that by 2020 we should have a great defense against nukes.

[dead]

If it is going to happen, It would happen within the next 10 years most likely. It seems with our technology now that by 2020 we should have a great defense against nukes.

Do you even know how a nuke works? Do you even know what a nuke going off in the sky far enough from a city so it won't do much damage apart from the EMP the nuke will give off after it is destroyed (destroyed being the bomb going off normally or unsafely).

[mranderson]

It obviously could happen, but its very unlikely

[Laurenzo]

Fallout 3 got me thinking the same thing.

But that's assuming we're going to have a nuclear war first.

And I think the Powers That Be are intelligent enough to realise what would happen if we started shooting nukes at each other :P

[Iceman]

I don't think that it will ever happen. The risk of extenction is exaggerated, due to both underground shelters and that fallout doesnt just go everywhere. Also most countries would be smart enough to know that if they nuke someone it will come right back at them.

[ShaneK]

I dont know about a nuclear apocalypse, but we are the only animal that destroys themselves (and yes i do regard us as animals). thats if we dont destroy the earth first....

[scuba steve]

I dont know about a nuclear apocalypse, but we are the only animal that destroys themselves (and yes i do regard us as animals). thats if we dont destroy the earth first....

Thought is a heavy burden.

[ShaneK]

i just say it how it is

[insanity]

lol idk.... but it sound possible, fingers crossed and we will be the lucky people who get to experience it all happening :)

[Bougainvillea]

Ya Gaul I agree the Tzar bomb was actually detonated at half capacity
The scientists that built it cut the power in half at the last minute before take off because they were terrified at what a 100 megaton bomb would do Don't you mean "Tsar"? :P Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised (not literally) if there were to be another exchange. If only a minor one. Like one missle directed at a specific point of interest, and not the rest of the country. It is scary, though. The amount of damage that someone can do.

[Continuum]

Don't you mean "Tsar"? :P

Tzar is also another way to spell Tsar, which was derived from the word Caesar. :rolleyes:

[scuba steve]

Don't you mean "Tsar"? :P Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised (not literally) if there were to be another exchange. If only a minor one. Like one missle directed at a specific point of interest, and not the rest of the country. It is scary, though. The amount of damage that someone can do.

Well there are possibility's of nuclear terrorism in largely populated areas in the future, terrorist organisations using "dirty bombs" for example

[The Dark Lord]

lol idk.... but it sound possible, fingers crossed and we will be the lucky people who get to experience it all happening :)

You think we would be lucky to experience a nuclear apocalypse?

[scuba steve]

You think we would be lucky to experience a nuclear apocalypse?

Possibly if we all hide in shopping centre underground carparks for a couple years living off what we can forage from upstairs without leaving the ruins to be suffocated by the dust and eventually turn into awesome flesh eating gouls, healed by radiation!

http://www.gamejudgment.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Five-Things-I-want-in-New-Vegas-Enemies.jpg...Sup

[Continuum]

Possibly if we all hide in shopping centre underground carparks for a couple years living off what we can forage from upstairs without leaving the ruins to be suffocated by the dust and eventually turn into awesome flesh eating gouls, healed by radiation!



Flesh-eating Gauls. Ha!

Hopefully there's guns. Lots of 'em. :cool:

[Sith Lord 13]

Well there are possibility's of nuclear terrorism in largely populated areas in the future, terrorist organisations using "dirty bombs" for example

The radiation from a dirty bomb can be removed with a shower.

[Perseus]

Tzar is also another way to spell Tsar, which was derived from the word Caesar. :rolleyes:

You're thinking of "czar", not "tzar". "Tzar" does not exist. It's either "czar", or "tsar".

[Azunite]

You're thinking of "czar", not "tzar". "Tzar" does not exist. It's either "czar", or "tsar".

Exactly

[Azunite]

By the way it would be impossible to stock 3 years' food anywhere in the world

[scuba steve]

The radiation from a dirty bomb can be removed with a shower.

They're more designed to cause mass panic that a nuclear device has been detonated in their city. Also the fact that in the initial blast the radiation is still potentially cancerous etc until the clean

By the way it would be impossible to stock 3 years' food anywhere in the world

Not really, a whole shopping mall mulitiple non-perishable food stuffs, storing canned goods etc. for a small population of survivors in the underground car park... It would be possible.
Even if the numbers where too high i'm sure people would start killing each other anyway.

[Continuum]

You're thinking of "czar", not "tzar". "Tzar" does not exist. It's either "czar", or "tsar".

Tsar, Czar, Ssar, Tzar, Szar, Zaar, It's still a Tsar. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar)

:P

[scuba steve]

Tsar, Czar, Ssar, Tzar, Szar, Zaar, It's still a Tsar. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar)

:P

It took me this long to connect the dots that it just means king of bombs :P

[Azunite]

Well, I am just going to finish Fallout 3 on Very Hard again, just in case...

[scuba steve]

Well, I am just going to finish Fallout 3 on Very Hard again, just in case...

Very hard mode on Fallout 3 is actually surprisingly simple for me. Play New Vegas on Hardcore, now that's hard, Caesars legion become the men of super mutant might!

[Azunite]

Still, in Fallout 3 a Deathclaw on Very Hard difficulty becomes a rapist

[sCa45]

I like to think there won't be one

[scuba steve]

Still, in Fallout 3 a Deathclaw on Very Hard difficulty becomes a rapist

A New Vegas Deathclaw on Very easy mode IS a rapist

[Azunite]

Well, we'll simply travel somewhere using Amata as cover

[scuba steve]

Well, we'll simply travel somewhere using Amata as cover

I tried to clear out a quarry infested with deathclaws about an hour ago and got screwed as I found out their are also Alpha-male and Mother deathclaws that are 100 times larger than regular deathclaws and also resemble the aliens out of Independance day :eek: the Mother ripped my level 27 character to shreds in about two hits and i'm in T-51b power armour!

[Azunite]

That's why I never use power armor :P

[scuba steve]

That's why I never use power armor :P

Then you'd die faster...?:confused:

[Daniel_]

With North Korea and China doing what their doing, theres a really good chance it could happen, so stock up on hazmat suits while you can, just in case.

[poindexter]

there will be a nuclear war. but the end result is most likely to be like the Fallout games

[Azunite]

Then you'd die faster...?:confused:

ugh, I made irony there !

With North Korea and China doing what their doing, theres a really good chance it could happen, so stock up on hazmat suits while you can, just in case.

Yeah like hazmat suits are sold for 5 dollars on streets :P