Men getting raped in prison

[ShyGuyInChicago]

Do you think certain men in prison namely those who commit sex crimes deserve to be raped? I often read comments on news stories where people say that, and it bothers me because I am almost certain that none of those people would wish rape on a woman even if she committed a sex crime. In the past year I have heard of three stories of women selling children into prostitution. I feel that rape can never be justified no matter what.

[Amnesiac]

Letting sex offenders get raped in prison is torture. No excuses. I don't want to hear about the bullshit "AN EYE FOR AN EYE" argument. No. This is 2010. You commit a crime, you are sent to prison. Nothing more. I don't want to live in some shithole country where their justice system has rape as a punishment for crimes. That's uncivilized and just disgusting.

There probably is a double standard with people not wishing rape on women offenders.

[The Joker]

I don't know if they deserve it or not, but I wouldn't shed a tear if a serial killer or serial rapist gets buttfucked unwillingly, to put it eloquently.

[ShyGuyInChicago]

Letting sex offenders get raped in prison is torture. No excuses. I don't want to hear about the bullshit "AN EYE FOR AN EYE" argument. No. This is 2010. You commit a crime, you are sent to prison. Nothing more. I don't want to live in some shithole country where their justice system has rape as a punishment for crimes. That's uncivilized and just disgusting.

There probably is a double standard with people not wishing rape on women offenders.

I wasn't talking about rape as a legal punishment. I was talking sex offenders getting raped by other inmates.

[deadpie]

I don't know if they deserve it or not, but I wouldn't shed a tear if a serial killer or serial rapist gets buttfucked unwillingly, to put it eloquently.

And what if the serial killer or rapist was raped once before and those acts lead them to do what they did?

Ex: Aileen Wuornos was a female serial killer who was sexually abused as a child. In return, she killed rapists and perverts. Result: Beaten by guards and death penalty.

I'm sure that nobody thinks about how Jeffrey Dahmer was molested as a child by a neighbor.

[ShyGuyInChicago]

I don't know if they deserve it or not, but I wouldn't shed a tear if a serial killer or serial rapist gets buttfucked unwillingly, to put it eloquently.

What if it was female serial killer or female child molester or if she was an accomplice in sec crimes?

[Amnesiac]

I wasn't talking about rape as a legal punishment. I was talking sex offenders getting raped by other inmates.

It still shouldn't be allowed. Rape does not fit into the prison system of a developed country, we shouldn't just let it happen.

[The Joker]

And what if the serial killer or rapist was raped once before and those acts lead them to do what they did?

Ex: Aileen Wuornos was a female serial killer who was sexually abused as a child. In return, she killed rapists and perverts. Result: Beaten by guards and death penalty.

I'm sure that nobody thinks about how Jeffrey Dahmer was molested as a child by a neighbor.

Mmm, I didn't think of it from that perspective. I definitely agree now. When I posted, I never really took into consideration their possible reasoning for committing the crime that got them there.

[The Dark Lord]

I wasn't talking about rape as a legal punishment. I was talking sex offenders getting raped by other inmates.

No, that is morally unjustifiable. No matter what the crime was, torture is not justifiable. I support the death penalty, but no one can seriously justify sinking to their level.

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And what if the serial killer or rapist was raped once before and those acts lead them to do what they did?

Ex: Aileen Wuornos was a female serial killer who was sexually abused as a child. In return, she killed rapists and perverts. Result: Beaten by guards and death penalty.

I'm sure that nobody thinks about how Jeffrey Dahmer was molested as a child by a neighbor.

It's really the psychological well-being of the victim that's being put into emphasis here. You can't really blame her, she lived through physical and mental trauma that scarred her for the rest of her life, and needed therapy that she didn't have.

In the end though, she clearly received injustice in her life.

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well, i find the prison raping & prisons other experiences as one unit. i'm sure that when a judge sends someone to prison for X amout of years he know what expect that person

[nick]

Its not only serial killers and people that get convicted for sex crimes that are likely to get anally raped in mens prisons. Anyone young and cute looking is going to be vulnerable. Rape is a horrible crime and the fact that it occurs in a prison cell makes it no less horrible than under any other circumstances. Its terrible if prison guards turn a blind eye to it, but how they can stop it entirely without 24 hour cctv in every cell is harder to say.

[deadpie]

Another issue is that this is something that happens allot. People do get lonely when in prison, so they end up turning to men. Did you know that sagging actually came from guys in prison who would keep their pants halfway down to show they were "open"?

These days people are being thrown into jail for anything. People like drug addicts do not need to be in prisons, but instead need to be getting actual help that will work for them like a safe Rehab Facility. So now we have these people who don't need to be in prison, but will probably end up getting raped by actual criminals anyways.

This isn't a get what you deserve type thing. It's sick.

[ShyGuyInChicago]

There probably is a double standard with people not wishing rape on women offenders.

Why do you think the double standard is like that? I think it is because women are more likely to be raped.

[Amnesiac]

Why do you think the double standard is like that? I think it is because women are more likely to be raped.

Because, in society, we never hear about men getting raped. We hear about women getting raped all the time, and we feel sorry for their pain. But not men.

[TopGear]

I think Its just one of those things that comes when you go to prison, If you never broke the law in the first time, you wouldn't have to worry about it.

Just like war, Innencient people get killed all the time, but thats just part of war.

I don't feel sorry for any sex offender that is raped or abused in Prison, If he would of followed the laws we have laid out, he wouldn't be in there in the first place.

On the other Hand I Totally agree with you on the fact that people who have drug charges should not be in the same prison or even in a prison at all.

[The Joker]

Who says that innocent people dieing in wars is alright? That's an unfair argument. They did a crime knowing the punishment, being raped in prison was NOT part of the official punishment. Going, "LOL THEY SHOULDN'T BREAK THE LAW". They broke the law because they understood the consequences, yet did the crime.

[TopGear]

Ok, But in todays world, who doesn't know what goes on in a prison? And your right being raped in prison was not part of the official punishment, but thats just what happens in the prisons. You also got to remember when you are taken in custody and charged for a crime you lose most of your rights.

So weather or not rape is part of the official punishment, it happens and that is something they should think of before you do something stupid to go to prison.

Sorry but thats just how shit flies.

[Amnesiac]

Ok, But in todays world, who doesn't know what goes on in a prison? And your right being raped in prison was not part of the official punishment, but thats just what happens in the prisons. You also got to remember when you are taken in custody and charged for a crime you lose most of your rights.

So weather or not rape is part of the official punishment, it happens and that is something they should think of before you do something stupid to go to prison.

Sorry but thats just how shit flies.

No, not really. Prisoners lose some rights, but they have their own special rights too. Ignoring the rape problem in prisons and letting it happen as "part of the punishment" or "what you get for doing a crime" would blatantly violate the 8th amendment. Rape is not part of a civilized country's judicial system.

Is it really fair for, let's say, some guy who got a year for drug possession, a VICTIMLESS CRIME, to be raped in prison?

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Is it really fair for, let's say, some guy who got a year for drug possession, a VICTIMLESS CRIME, to be raped in prison?

No, but wardens should really keep a close eye on anyone they think has any sexual advancements with their cell mates. If they did, they'll just relocate him/her to another cell or a rehab center. Rape is still ignored when it comes to prisons; prison guards care less even if they see prisoners being brutally ass-raped by their fellowmen without their consent. That's still injustice whenever we consider it as part of the punishment.

[Amnesiac]

No, but wardens should really keep a close eye on anyone they think has any sexual advancements with their cell mates. If they did, they'll just relocate him/her to another cell or a rehab center. Rape is still ignored when it comes to prisons; prison guards care less even if they see prisoners being brutally ass-raped by their fellowmen without their consent. That's still injustice whenever we consider it as part of the punishment.

Indeed, it shouldn't be tolerated. It creates an unsafe prison environment.

[Sugaree]

Indeed, it shouldn't be tolerated. It creates an unsafe prison environment.

But how can you expect a prison to be a safe environment? Even if each prisoner were locked in individual cells, it would still be enormously unsafe. We're talking serial rapists, murderers, and gang members. Sexual predators don't have any safe hope in prison seeing as how they're the ones who are raped (prisoners have a strong detest for sexual predators, namely gang members). True, this shouldn't be happening, but it does and there is no stopping it. You can add all the guards you want, but they will still slack off the job and continue to not care.

[TopGear]

Is it really fair for, let's say, some guy who got a year for drug possession, a VICTIMLESS CRIME, to be raped in prison?


Ok here I agree with you, Personally I don't think someone who gets charged with drug possession should even be in a prison (depending on the drug and weather or not this is his/her first charge) Personally I think people who are placed with rapist, murders, and other Crimes similar shouldn't be there, If anything they should be getting help of some sort to fix the problem not just piss them off by putting them in prison/jail for years at a time. If it were my way it go like this; By the way Im for Legalization of Weed, so that would decrease the amount of pointless people that shouldn't be in prison in the first place, which reduces the amount of people the rapist can rape while in prison.

So lets say you are picked up for another form of illegal drug. First there would be a detox. Then they would be though the court system, IF this is there first charge for any illegal drug it would be a slap on the wrist (misdemeanor) and a hefty fine of $4,500. Also they would have to enroll in rehab and also serve 36 hours of community service. Reason for that, First it keeps the person that was charged out of the jail/prison that they don't need to be in, Second it keeps there record clean, It doesn't ruin their life. In todays world if you have charges in your name, you are screwed. Your not going to get a good job and that just hurts for first offender. Everyone deserves a second chance.

Now if this is the second or multiple charge then, same as before but instead of the misdemeanor charge, its the real deal. Also with that it would be a $9,000 fine with it. They would be placed in a jail/prison for those with the same charges and can get help there but still serving out there time.

Thats how I think the system should work but, thats just me.

[TopGear]

But how can you expect a prison to be a safe environment? Even if each prisoner were locked in individual cells, it would still be enormously unsafe. We're talking serial rapists, murderers, and gang members. Sexual predators don't have any safe hope in prison seeing as how they're the ones who are raped (prisoners have a strong detest for sexual predators, namely gang members). True, this shouldn't be happening, but it does and there is no stopping it. You can add all the guards you want, but they will still slack off the job and continue to not care.

I agree 100% with this statement. Like i said, For every action there are going to be is a consequence and before that rapist, murder or any of those guys decided to break the law, they should of known what they were in for before killing, rapping, or hurting others. Shit happens and nothing is stopping it.

[Amnesiac]

Ok here I agree with you, Personally I don't think someone who gets charged with drug possession should even be in a prison (depending on the drug and weather or not this is his/her first charge) Personally I think people who are placed with rapist, murders, and other Crimes similar shouldn't be there, If anything they should be getting help of some sort to fix the problem not just piss them off by putting them in prison/jail for years at a time. If it were my way it go like this; By the way Im for Legalization of Weed, so that would decrease the amount of pointless people that shouldn't be in prison in the first place, which reduces the amount of people the rapist can rape while in prison.

So lets say you are picked up for another form of illegal drug. First there would be a detox. Then they would be though the court system, IF this is there first charge for any illegal drug it would be a slap on the wrist (misdemeanor) and a hefty fine of $4,500. Also they would have to enroll in rehab and also serve 36 hours of community service. Reason for that, First it keeps the person that was charged out of the jail/prison that they don't need to be in, Second it keeps there record clean, It doesn't ruin their life. In todays world if you have charges in your name, you are screwed. Your not going to get a good job and that just hurts for first offender. Everyone deserves a second chance.

Now if this is the second or multiple charge then, same as before but instead of the misdemeanor charge, its the real deal. Also with that it would be a $9,000 fine with it. They would be placed in a jail/prison for those with the same charges and can get help there but still serving out there time.

Thats how I think the system should work but, thats just me.

Well, I don't think weed should be illegal in the first place. It's why the U.S. has such a high number of people in prison.

But how can you expect a prison to be a safe environment? Even if each prisoner were locked in individual cells, it would still be enormously unsafe. We're talking serial rapists, murderers, and gang members. Sexual predators don't have any safe hope in prison seeing as how they're the ones who are raped (prisoners have a strong detest for sexual predators, namely gang members). True, this shouldn't be happening, but it does and there is no stopping it. You can add all the guards you want, but they will still slack off the job and continue to not care.

Well, make them care. Train them better. The point is, rape shouldn't be present in prisons. It's not something to be ignored. It's unsanitary at best.

[TopGear]

Well, you can't and hey if you want to stand up for rapist, murders, useless, and not needed people in our society then go for it. Be my guest, but don't think that your going to have people liking it, if anything your going to have people dislike that fact that your standing up for people that have hurt others or even killed someone.

Very thankfully I haven't had anyone close or family that has fallen victim of rape, murder or sexual assault.

Though if a family member did fall to victim of rape, and someone was outside the prison that the criminal that raped my family member was place holding a sign saying "Stop Prison rape" I would break your sign in half and then piss on the sign.

Sorry but I look at it this way, They are lucky we live in a country that does it the way we do, If we were in some other countries we wouldn't have to worry about this problem because they would be hung. Not saying that hanging someone for rape or murder is the right way of doing things just saying that they should be happy that we dont and take it like a man.

[Amnesiac]

Well, you can't and hey if you want to stand up for rapist, murders, useless, and not needed people in our society then go for it. Be my guest, but don't think that your going to have people liking it, if anything your going to have people dislike that fact that your standing up for people that have hurt others or even killed someone.

Very thankfully I haven't had anyone close or family that has fallen victim of rape, murder or sexual assault.

Though if a family member did fall to victim of rape, and someone was outside the prison that the criminal that raped my family member was place holding a sign saying "Stop Prison rape" I would break your sign in half and then piss on the sign.

You see, I'm not the one "defending" rapists. It's the Constitution that does that. Prison rape should be stopped. I don't give a fuck if people are "offended" by that, this is the 21st century, and we imprison our dangerous criminals cleanly. We shouldn't be letting them get sodomized just because they committed an ugly crime. That's not how the justice system works, we don't do that "an eye for an eye" shit. If prison guards blindly allow it, it could be a violation of the 8th amendment. Do you want more prisoners suing and winning over being raped in prison, or do you want a well-managed prison system that keeps its inmates orderly?

Sorry but I look at it this way, They are lucky we live in a country that does it the way we do, If we were in some other countries we wouldn't have to worry about this problem because they would be hung. Not saying that hanging someone for rape or murder is the right way of doing things just saying that they should be happy that we dont and take it like a man.

The United States is the only developed nation and one of the few nations in the world that still practices capital punishment. Other nations have better prisons because they don't jail everyone with a milligram of weed. We should be doing better than them, the U.S. IS "#1", right?

[TopGear]

Fuck the Constitution, things change and guess what? Prison rape is going to happen and going to continue. Honestly I don't give a flying fuck weather or not that rapist or murder gets raped. To me its just sounds like another way for our sorely debted country to spend more money on useless people to this great country. FUCK THEM. I could really care a less for them.

Do you know how much it cost to house one prisoner a year? On average 45,000 DOLLARS ( California) 20,500 DOLLARS (Florida) average = 32,750 DOLLARS

Do you know how many prisoners we have in this country? 2,424,279 (2008)

So lets do the math; 32,750 X 2,424,279 = 79,395,137,250 DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you see where im coming from? Thats so much money I can't even image it, but yet we spend it on murders, rapist and other shit people that don't deserve a penny. Yet they get a free home, free food, free everything all paid by our government witch is fueled by the people of the united states that do follow the laws ( or dont and havent been caught).

[Amnesiac]

Fuck the Constitution,

Well, that really helps your argument.

things change and guess what? Prison rape is going to happen and going to continue. Honestly I don't give a flying fuck weather or not that rapist or murder gets raped. To me its just sounds like another way for our sorely debted country to spend more money on useless people to this great country. FUCK THEM. I could really care a less for them.

Well, that's great and all, but I mentioned the lawsuits. Prisoners have a right to file lawsuits, and they'll take advantage of it. I'm sure if we continue letting prisoners get raped, with guards doing nothing to stop it, then they'll file suit against the government, win, and take more money from taxpayers. What about the healthcare that we have to pay for if they contract a disease? You think you're saving money by not giving a fuck about prisoners, but it's just putting the government in a position to lose even more.

Do you know how much it cost to house one prisoner a year? On average 45,000 DOLLARS ( California) 20,500 DOLLARS (Florida) average = 32,750 DOLLARS

Do you know how many prisoners we have in this country? 2,424,279 (2008)

So lets do the math; 32,750 X 2,424,279 = 79,395,137,250 DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you see where im coming from? Thats so much money I can't even image it, but yet we spend it on murders, rapist and other shit people that don't deserve a penny. Yet they get a free home, free food, free everything all paid by our government witch is fueled by the people of the united states that do follow the laws ( or dont and havent been caught).

You can blame the high prison population on draconian drug laws. Only a SMALL minority of prisoners are violent like the ones you described.

Yes, they do get free stuff. However, it's not like they won't take advantage of a legal opportunity when they see one. Letting prison rape continue is just an invitation for prisoners to take advantage of their legal options and run off with more money from the government. It's also a risk to their health — who has to pay for treatment if they get an STD from that prison rape? Us!

[TopGear]

Ok so lawsuits, How many ex and or prisoners have files lawsuits for rape in prison in the last 20 years? Please?

[Amnesiac]

Ok so lawsuits, How many ex and or prisoners have files lawsuits for rape in prison in the last 20 years? Please?

Click (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/25/national/25rape.html), click (http://www.aclu.org/prisoners-rights/man-raped-prison-guard-receives-money-damages-aclu-lawsuit), click (http://blog.timesunion.com/crime/albany-woman-gets-500000-in-state-prison-rape-lawsuit/5735/), click (http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=1957), click (http://hamptonroads.com/2010/06/va-inmates-file-suits-stop-prison-violence).

Those are from the first page of a Google search. Oh, look, some GUARDS rape prisoners too!

And you still haven't addressed the healthcare issue.

[TopGear]

I don't want a few cases I want a solid number. Give me the total number of rape lawsuits that have collected over that last 20 years

[Amnesiac]

I don't want a few cases I want a solid number. Give me the total number of rape lawsuits that have collected over that last 20 years

Fine. There are no studies on the number of lawsuits filed due to prison rape. BUT:

In 2001, Human Rights Watch estimated that at least 140,000 inmates in the United States had been raped while incarcerated, and there is a significant variation in the rates of prison rape by race. Just Detention International estimate that young men are five times more likely to be attacked; and that the prison rape victims are ten times more likely to contract a deadly disease. In contrast to these high figures, a meta-analysis published in 2004 found a prevalence rate of 1.91% with a 95% confidence interval between 1.37–2.46%. Applying that 1.91% figure to the nearly 2.3 million inmates currently incarcerated in prisons and jails in the United States suggests that raped inmates number 43,800.

(From here) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_rape)

And it's enough of a problem that Congress passed a bipartisan law on it in 2003 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_Rape_Elimination_Act_of_2003), and it even poses a threat to public health (http://www.csuchico.edu/cjhp/3/2/72-83-mcguire.pdf).

[TopGear]

Ok so estimated 140,000 inmates raped is this by year or all total?

[Amnesiac]

Ok so estimated 140,000 inmates raped is this by year or all total?

Estimated total (nine years ago, I might add).

[TopGear]

Ok I think we both can agree that that number has to have increased over time, So do you know if this number was a total number in one year or is it a total of numbers of years?

[Amnesiac]

Ok I think we both can agree that that number has to have increased over time, So do you know if this number was a total number in one year or is it a total of numbers of years?

I would say this is over a long period of time. I don't have time to read through the ridiculously long report (http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/report.html) on it.

[TopGear]

Ok so if its over all long period of time then that means those guys aren't getting raped every day, and with the few that actually do bring lawsuits do not out number the ones that do, Most, if not all are do not have the brain, the thought or even bringing that up in court. Because if they do they will be jumped or probly raped again. So the number of people taking this to court is not even a precent of the ones that don't so I really don't see the argument anymore.

The rape happens, its not right but it happens and the numbers aren't there to support that they are getting more money out of us then they already have ( meaning by eating for free, living for free and all 32,750 a year)

[Amnesiac]

Ok so if its over all long period of time then that means those guys aren't getting raped every day, and with the few that actually do bring lawsuits do not out number the ones that do, Most, if not all are do not have the brain, the thought or even bringing that up in court. Because if they do they will be jumped or probly raped again. So the number of people taking this to court is not even a precent of the ones that don't so I really don't see the argument anymore.

The rape happens, its not right but it happens and the numbers aren't there to support that they are getting more money out of us then they already have ( meaning by eating for free, living for free and all 32,750 a year)

You haven't taken into consideration half of my entire argument: it presents a threat to the health of the general public. When these people come out of prison, mentally scarred from rape and possibly carrying a sexually transmitted disease, what's going to happen when they spread that around?

These reports are old and most likely not up to date. Prison rape is an issue. It's enough of a problem that it's gotten attention from the federal government and the media. What's worse, hundreds of thousands in damages when the criminals do win in court, or the $40,000 a year it costs to keep them in prison? Not only does prison rape violate federal and international law, it presents a danger to the health of the general population and is costing the government money in the many court cases that develop out of these situations, some of which I linked earlier.

This isn't something you can just ignore because it's not widespread. "Gee, we should ignore the pollution in this lake — I mean, it's not widespread!"

[TopGear]

I understand the health issue but anyone can get an STD from any kind of sexual encounters, weather it is rape or just two people getting it on, so I don't see how when they get out and having an std, And anyone can spread an STD not just people who get raped.

Ok first how many lawsuits where there, second how many of those lawsuits did the inmate actually win, and if they did how much did they get off with?

If the number is greater than 79,395,137,250 then we have an issue till then why don't we worry about more important things then a few guys getting raped in prison.

[Amnesiac]

I understand the health issue but anyone can get an STD from any kind of sexual encounters, weather it is rape or just two people getting it on, so I don't see how when they get out and having an std, And anyone can spread an STD not just people who get raped.

Ok first how many lawsuits where there, second how many of those lawsuits did the inmate actually win, and if they did how much did they get off with?

If the number is greater than 79,395,137,250 then we have an issue till then why don't we worry about more important things then a few guys getting raped in prison.

I find it incredible that you think people getting STD's from rape isn't an issue. I, for one, would like to see LESS people with STD's in society rather than more.

It's disturbing that you really don't care about prison rape and all the problems it creates. You think it's not an important issue? After I've shown you all the statistics, all the stories, AND the fact that Congress passed a law concerning it? It's like saying gay bullying isn't a problem, because there aren't many gays. Look where THAT got us.

[TopGear]

Yes people getting STD's is a problem.

But prison rape isn't going to stop, just won't. You have a large group of people who don't give a shit and are there for that reason, and are lonely and all they got is what they have in there so a few extra years for rapping someone isn't going to bother them.

How is it disturbing that i don't get a shit about people that cost us $79,395,137,250 a year? Or that fact that they are useless when in the prison and most are useless when they get out. Why would I give a fuck about them? there are many other things in life that I should worry about or even care for before someone tries to tell me that this is an issue.

[Amnesiac]

Yes people getting STD's is a problem.

But prison rape isn't going to stop, just won't. You have a large group of people who don't give a shit and are there for that reason, and are lonely and all they got is what they have in there so a few extra years for rapping someone isn't going to bother them.

How is it disturbing that i don't get a shit about people that cost us $79,395,137,250 a year? Or that fact that they are useless when in the prison and most are useless when they get out. Why would I give a fuck about them? there are many other things in life that I should worry about or even care for before someone tries to tell me that this is an issue.

The only reason prison guards don't care about rape (and participate in it themselves) is because federal law isn't being enforced properly. It's time that the states brought some order to the prison system.

A majority of those people shouldn't be in prison. They're there on victimless, minor drug offenses. It's not fair that someone who wanted to get high for his own pleasure ends up in prison, being raped.

You make this sound like an issue that can't be fixed, but it can with the proper legislation and training.

[TopGear]

Well I totally agree with you on almost all of what you just said.

Yes, its not being enforced and till it is, there will be prison rape by the guards themselves.

Yes again, I agree 120% with the drug charges, Legalize Weed and boom there goes a good chunk of people that didn't need to be in there in the first place and getting raped for it.

See man Im a realize, I call it as I see it. If the problem is at its roots (the guards) how can we fix it? Things have to change from the top down all the way to the guards. I think your right if there is proper legislation and training yes there is a chance of it being fixed.

BUT heres where I get caught up, How big is this to the government? I mean if this was a Issue to them don't you think they would already be acting on it? To me it hasn't hit them as it has hit some others.

[Amnesiac]

See man Im a realize, I call it as I see it. If the problem is at its roots (the guards) how can we fix it? Things have to change from the top down all the way to the guards. I think your right if there is proper legislation and training yes there is a chance of it being fixed.

BUT heres where I get caught up, How big is this to the government? I mean if this was a Issue to them don't you think they would already be acting on it? To me it hasn't hit them as it has hit some others.

They passed a law. Then they passed another law. Unfortuantely, only SOME prisons are actually enforcing it; many aren't. It's a widespread problem that needs to be fixed by states passing their own legislation to reinforce the federal legislation.