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deadpie
October 11th, 2010, 04:58 PM
If you know the future, can you change it?

If you can, then did you really know the future?

If you can't, why?

Sage
October 11th, 2010, 05:01 PM
http://mikecalimbas.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/spoon.jpg

There is no spoon.

Kahn
October 11th, 2010, 07:29 PM
If you know the future, can you change it?

If you can, then did you really know the future?

If you can't, why?

Of course you can change it. It's not some, weird, divine thing. The future is spontaneous, no matter how much you plan it. Nothing ever goes according to plan.

If you can, then not really. The future bends at your will if you know it.

jovien
October 11th, 2010, 07:45 PM
no
no its all a self eminated fantasy
just like i said

Peace God
October 11th, 2010, 08:24 PM
If you know the future, can you change it?
No...

mxrider155
October 12th, 2010, 11:19 PM
I think that if you could somehow know the future, that in itself would change it, as you would be conciously aware as to what is going to happen, which would in some way or another affect the future you saw and the decisions you make everyday.

Continuum
October 13th, 2010, 10:03 AM
Light Cones should explain how this works, regarding how the flow of time is inevitable and returning to the past is useless.

I'll just ask my fortune teller and see if I'm going to be the leader of the resistance against a dystopian sentient robot regime. :D

Continuum
October 13th, 2010, 10:16 AM
oh damn, double post. :P

Magus
October 14th, 2010, 10:34 PM
If you know the future, can you change it?

If you can, then did you really know the future?

If you can't, why?
No one knows the future. The world is naturally erratic.

We don't know what calamities might struck the human beings. But for now, we must focus on development.

http://www.energyrant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/solar-panels-powering-village.jpg

And, who knows. We might end up in an underground cavern, protecting the last of our species.

"Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy."

Continuum
October 15th, 2010, 06:19 AM
And, who knows. We might end up in an underground cavern, protecting the last of our species.



Sure we will. After all, they didn't think of Skynet for nothing. :P

It's just a matter of time. The world'll be shook on its foundations after an event sparks another global cataclysm. I'm not sure, but really, It'll happen soon enough when our world drops rock bottom, and especially if our selfish attitudes continue to that day.

Magus
October 15th, 2010, 10:53 AM
Sure we will. After all, they didn't think of Skynet for nothing. :P
Combo Breaker!(It was 'The Matrix' :|)
It's just a matter of time. The world'll be shook on its foundations after an event sparks another global cataclysm. I'm not sure, but really, It'll happen soon enough when our world drops rock bottom, and especially if our selfish attitudes continue to that day.
Why so pessimistic?

We can achieve things immortal. We can resist the forces of nature, and we might even subjugate it, and make it under our will. We and the nature might become one.

And we might even achieve immortality and a never-changing transfiguration[rejuvenation].

Why do you expect a post-apocalyptic event would be a probable case in maybe 50 or 100 years from now?

Because of our actions and 'selfish attitudes? Maybe, or maybe not. We learn from our mistakes, and we try to make sure that our descendants not to repeat the same mistake over and over again.
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http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/lasmacabrasaventurasdebillyymandy/es/images/7/77/Boskov.png

This might be a silly cartoon to you. But there is a whole new concept behind the brain immortality.

http://www.ani.me/site_media/media/articles/2010/08/27/bear-gun-biomega-2_png_650x10000_q85.jpg

Continuum
October 18th, 2010, 07:59 AM
Combo Breaker!(It was 'The Matrix' :|)


Did I? I don't really know much about the matrix, just its cultural impact on the world. :P

Why so pessimistic?

It's not that. I often felt that even the greatest civilizations, the greatest people on earth, often fell precariously as a result of different factors. This just moves me to think that everything might hit rock bottom in just a day or so. At least so, we're unlikely to spark any conflict today. It's likely possible, what you said. Technology passes through at a blinding rate, no wonder some of the older generations feel left out.


We can achieve things immortal. We can resist the forces of nature, and we might even subjugate it, and make it under our will. We and the nature might become one.

And we might even achieve immortality and a never-changing transfiguration[rejuvenation].

It's a cycle of death and rebirth. Well, I think it is. There will be a peak period at least once in a while, where some entity reached enlightenment in some sort. Every great civilization I ever saw in my history book, all of them fell. Maybe due to assimilation, political arguments, or just plain disappeared into nothingness.

CairAndros
October 22nd, 2010, 04:24 AM
Quite paradoxical if you ask me.

If we can see the future then we see a possible future as we don't know the choices we took to reach that future. i.e. we might have gotten a bottle of Irn Bru instead of a can of Monster out of the shop that morning - pretty random i know but first thing that came to my head. And if we take a different choice then the future will end up differently to what we saw, thus we would be changing it and we wouldn't know the future.

In reality, there is no we can know the future - we can hypothesize about the future based on the current situation we find ourselves in. This sort of forward thinking is what makes us human.

Magus
October 22nd, 2010, 12:50 PM
Did I? I don't really know much about the matrix, just its cultural impact on the world. :P
Matrix pretty much sums it all.

It's not that. I often felt that even the greatest civilizations, the greatest people on earth, often fell precariously as a result of different factors. This just moves me to think that everything might hit rock bottom in just a day or so. At least so, we're unlikely to spark any conflict today. It's likely possible, what you said. Technology passes through at a blinding rate, no wonder some of the older generations feel left out.

Unlike the primitive civilisation. We are now more open, better developed, more knowledgeable and far reaching than ever before.

Well, there will always be the best of times, recessions and downfalls - but not utter annihilation of what we are looking for.


It's a cycle of death and rebirth. Well, I think it is. There will be a peak period at least once in a while, where some entity reached enlightenment in some sort. Every great civilization I ever saw in my history book, all of them fell. Maybe due to assimilation, political arguments, or just plain disappeared into nothingness.
I agree with you on this. Hopefully, future will be different despite future being mercurial and unpredictable. But remember, Not every apple is red.