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DarkHorses
September 30th, 2010, 03:11 PM
I'm so angry right now. Just so completely angry. I always thought that being a family meant that you stuck together and loved each other no matter what. But apparently that only applies if all of you have the same beliefs.

I told my family that I wasn't a Christian. Well I might as well have told them I was a mass murderer. Heaven forbid that I don't believe exactly what they do. I believe in God, sure, but that's not what matters, is it? What matters is that I'm not a Christian.

So I went onto my mom's Facebook to check something for her, and I come across a message she and my aunt sent, and they're talking about me like I'm the anti Christ, or some kind of evil being. Definitely not like I'm part of their family.

My sister says "they just want you to be happy." Well I'm happy believing what I want to, not what they want me to. They keep saying stuff like "you're different without God in your life," and "atheists are terrible people."

I'm just so mad. I can't believe my own family is this retarded. I'm just hurt beyond belief. What's the point of even being alive if your own family hates you? Doesn't matter that I'm a good person, I'm not a Christian. I guess that makes me evil.

Syvelocin
September 30th, 2010, 03:31 PM
Fuck religion! Yeah! ... Sorry.

My mother's family is Catholic. And let's just say that I'm a "fallen" Catholic (neopagan). I stopped going to church in third grade, and I believe I told my mom that I was an atheist in about fifth or sixth grade. She ignored me for a very long time, and she eventually got used to it. Then, when I told her about my REAL religion last year, she freaked out. I cleared up the conspiracies, and then she felt a little better.

I think they need time too. Depending on your family's views (fundamentalist Christian, or like my mother who happens to now think that everyone has a right to their own religion). If they're, you know, REALLY Christian, you might have some trouble. If they're pretty open-minded in general, I'd leave your religious views to soak in for a while.

You're going to have people like that. My step-aunt, she converted my uncle to Baptism. Guess what I got instead of a birthday card this year? A card about her being worried about me and how I need to "find the lord." She also sent a pamphlet with it entitled "Am I Going to Heaven?"

The funny thing is that she doesn't know that I chose the left-hand path. She thought I was Catholic XD

You just have to understand that they really believe in Christianity (well, duh, I know). They believe that sinners go to Hell, and in some cases, everyone who isn't a Christian is going to Hell. They're just saying these things because they care about you, like parents should. As a parent, would you want your kid to be damned for all eternity in the fiery pits of some realm made for punishment? Of course not. That's something that will take a long time to get over, because they might truly believe that this is your fate now.

Did you tell them what your religion is yet? It might help to clear up that you are not an atheist (though atheists are good people, if they're real atheists) and that you do believe in God.

Best wishes, hun.

steve1234
October 1st, 2010, 10:37 AM
I have also started to really dislike the idea of religion. I would say I am athiest, but a small part of me still thinks there could be a God.

I seemed to have gained this hate since going to a Catholic high school (you have to be catholic for years 7-11, but you don't have to be to attend the sixth form in years 12-13). The school is full of hypocrites, and some people get very angry when you air your views on religion, like I have found out all too often.

Although I am not a fan of religion, I think all religions should respect each other. Religions should respect Agnostics/Athiests and vice versa.
I think you should maybe sit down with your family and explain why you are an athiest, and also explain that you respect their beliefs, and that they should respect yours.

Magus
October 1st, 2010, 11:13 AM
Not a smart move.

I don't go to my somewhat religious Muslim parent and tell them "Mom! FUCK RELIGION! I DON'T FUCKING BELIEVE IN ANY GOD" No. That's not right.

And you know what happens to apostates in Islam. Yes, instantaneous hunting down and killing the apostate.

Respect or no respect. I told my parents that I am a humanist at first. I didn't tell them 'I don't believe in Allah' - I told them, I believe in God, Allah. But I don't want follow religion, I am a non-observant Muslim, that's all.

Hiding under the name of Secularism, Humanism and Scepticism is much better than exposing your atheism. Because Atheism always had a negative implications with the religious people.

Asylum
October 1st, 2010, 11:39 AM
i know how hard it is to not believe what your family believes and they end up treating you like a horrible person. What religion are you? I am curiosu because say you converted to Islam.. what you can do is get a whole bunch of books and articles on your beliefs and give them to your folks to read. I can help you here if you explain your beleifs to find similariites so they are more understanding and well more tolerant of your bleifs. So well just i guess send me a PM or VM or post here your religion or if your agnostic (still searchig) hoever please explain your beleifs. I can help you make an essay if you want explaining why you decided to change your beliefs. So this way your parents stop acting like ignorant people who dispize all religions. Religion sucks... i'm sick of the "this is the only belief" bullshit. if you don't beleive in this and exactly this.. your going to hell, because God only likes "my belief" even though it's similar it oter beleifs... God doens't recognize that.. so your wrong... and i hmust be right ^_^ bahaha religion.. i've changed my religion.. oh gosh.. i can say h/o let me count 8 different times.. O_o lolz. i love religous studies.. and i love getting involved in one religion.. but i have always believed all paths lead to God.. ok.. i'm not going into a religious thing right now, but i didn't exactly explain i all the way, and i'm not oging into my bleiefs here lolz. if you need help hun i can help you. :) just ask and you shall receive :)

Mattasaur94
October 19th, 2010, 05:05 AM
Hey Amore, I'll go through this replying to seperate pieces, when it comes to religion and opinion, everyone has to simply accept that they are all different; the way one person interprets say... the bible (in this instance) is completely different to how someone else would interpret it.
As with one person's perspective on God (god, how ever you view the topic) is different to another person's.
We have to, as humans, accept that everyone is different and that we are all human. It's how our brains work.

I told my family that I wasn't a Christian. Well I might as well have told them I was a mass murderer. Heaven forbid that I don't believe exactly what they do. I believe in God, sure, but that's not what matters, is it? What matters is that I'm not a Christian.

Christian is quite a large blanket term for a religion.
Your parents, I'd assume, are just absolutely frightened at the prospect of you not accepting the same label as them.
In families it shouldn't matter with what religion you follow, or what God(god) you pray to; I think all religions teach the same fundamentals of ethics and morals.
Follow the basic ethics of being human and accept that everyone is different, we should live out lives how they are placed to be lived.


... Definitely not like I'm part of their family.
Family are family, they will learn to accept you for you, in majority of cases, if not, explain to them calmly that not being a Christian does not mean that you have no respect for other faiths, and that you don't have the intentions of spitting at their faith.

My sister says "they just want you to be happy." Well I'm happy believing what I want to, not what they want me to. They keep saying stuff like "you're different without God in your life," and "atheists are terrible people."
Your sister is right, and it's important that you follow your heart and your desires, but if you think of it from your parent's perspective, they may believe that you are lost without God(god) in your life.
Parents can only raise their children generally in the limitations as to how they were raised. You just have to talk to them about how it doesn't change you as a person, and not being Christian doesn't mean that you don't believe in God(god) and doesn't instantly imply that you are an Atheist.

I'm just so mad. I can't believe my own family is this retarded. I'm just hurt beyond belief. What's the point of even being alive if your own family hates you? Doesn't matter that I'm a good person, I'm not a Christian. I guess that makes me evil.
Calm down. (:
You family aren't retarded, they are just God(god)-fearing.
Try not to be hurt, keep your chin up and smile.
There's a lot more to life, even if your family 'hates you'. And I can guarantee, they don't hate you, they are most likely just worried for you, by the sounds of things they are doing what they know to do.
Not being Christian doesn't make you evil, stereotypically you MUST belong to a religion, be it Atheism, Christianity, or even Satanism, that's how society works, it labels people even if they don't wish to be labelled.
So smile, chin up.

Try and talk to you parents,
Hopefully your morals and ethics haven't changed and you bear some respect for individuality, even if your parents don't.
Feel free to vent away, just don't lose your cool.

A calm reply dejects anger in majority of it's forms.

Sorry for the wall of text. (: (:

HeroesAndCons
November 3rd, 2010, 01:17 PM
i am not christian my mon never was like that she thought me being wiccan wads just a phase
try coexisting with her she will love u no matter what

jrl719
November 3rd, 2010, 10:33 PM
I agree, I think religion is a bunch of crap. No offense to the people who believe. By my whole family are like that so I have to suffer MASS AFTER MASS. I'm afraid that if I say that, they'll look at me funny, because I'd be the only non-believer. And if I do come out of the closet, I'd be the only homosexual person in my family, I think...

I hate families(theoretically speaking), they say they're there for you, but when you make the wrong decision for yourself, they just bring you down... It's your life, they have no reason to be bitches towards you.

Painted_Indian_Horse
November 4th, 2010, 08:02 PM
i have a very similar dilemma, Amore.

i hate to say it, and i am not judging or bashing your family in any way, but i generally can't stand religious people. fuck them, with their exclusive and condemning beliefs. i know there are good religious people, i know some. but most of the ones i come in contact with are the kind that damn you to hell if you say 'oh my god'. cause apparantly, it is taking the lord's name in vain. WTF?!?! my step dad comes close to whaling on me when i say that.
on the other end, it might just take a little time for your family to come to terms with your differences. i'm sure they do everything they do in favor of their interpretations of your better interests. let it sit a little while, and don't feel so bad about yourself. you perfect, no matter the religion. the beauty of this modern world is the diversity that's accepted almost everywhere. you won't be living with your parents forever.

districtnowhere
November 5th, 2010, 06:07 PM
i am not a christian either. we never go to church.

Bluesman
November 21st, 2010, 03:08 PM
I think it may be good to get a bit of a different perspective here. I am Christian, and though I struggle with believing in God, heaven, and or hell sometimes, I truly think that it is real. I also believe, however, that you have your right to believe whatever you may want. I believe that it is my duty as a Christian to tell you about God, but not to force religion on you. Ultimately it is your decision on what you want to believe, and no one can change that. Way too many Christians have no respect for people who believe otherwise and just resort to "You're going to hell bitch!", rather than respecting their views. Your parents will probably always say things about God to you, but if they are practically excluding you from the family, that is WRONG! Maybe you can tell them how you feel, and try to explain that you just have different beliefs than they do.

Awesome Sauce
November 22nd, 2010, 06:30 PM
I'm so angry right now. Just so completely angry. I always thought that being a family meant that you stuck together and loved each other no matter what. But apparently that only applies if all of you have the same beliefs.

I told my family that I wasn't a Christian. Well I might as well have told them I was a mass murderer. Heaven forbid that I don't believe exactly what they do. I believe in God, sure, but that's not what matters, is it? What matters is that I'm not a Christian.

So I went onto my mom's Facebook to check something for her, and I come across a message she and my aunt sent, and they're talking about me like I'm the anti Christ, or some kind of evil being. Definitely not like I'm part of their family.

My sister says "they just want you to be happy." Well I'm happy believing what I want to, not what they want me to. They keep saying stuff like "you're different without God in your life," and "atheists are terrible people."

I'm just so mad. I can't believe my own family is this retarded. I'm just hurt beyond belief. What's the point of even being alive if your own family hates you? Doesn't matter that I'm a good person, I'm not a Christian. I guess that makes me evil.

I'm not either. What matters is is that no matter what they say, you still believe in what you believe in. No matter what.


Do you think Gandhi got where he got for believeing in everything his family believed in? Hell to the no.


A quote by him, in fact. Follow it to the letter.

"I like your christ. His is an all-knowing benelovent being. I don't like your christians. They show no resemblance to your christ."


(Remember the crusades?)

I hope this helps...

Clawhammer
November 22nd, 2010, 06:35 PM
I'm really sorry you feel that way about them. I'm a Christian. My sister is a lesbian. I still love her, I think she's awesome, I've never condemned her for it. There's a lot of people out there who claim to follow Christ, thus the name Christians, but don't. Christ was known as the "friend of sinners and tax collectors." If he were here, he'd be hanging out with gangsters, whores, and druggies. Try to remind them that they are called to love, not to hate and shun.

Bmatlman
November 22nd, 2010, 06:48 PM
i am a christian and i ithink that if you choose not t belive then that is your choice. that is why we weere givein the ability of choice. I under stand you might not like the thought of religion, but the reson your family is freaking out is they belive that you dont belive in god at all and they are worried that if you all die that they wont see you in heavan. so they do love you, they are just worried about you. I know you may not care for this part but when jesus was crusified there were two prisoners who were one the crosses next to him. at first they tanted him, but after a will one of them started to ask if he could be saved even though he had been bad like this and done bad things but jesus said that he could come to heaven if he remorsed his sins (or some thing close to that) and he did so jesus said he could come to heaven with him.

Bluesman
November 22nd, 2010, 07:50 PM
I'm not either. What matters is is that no matter what they say, you still believe in what you believe in. No matter what.


Do you think Gandhi got where he got for believeing in everything his family believed in? Hell to the no.


A quote by him, in fact. Follow it to the letter.

"I like your christ. His is an all-knowing benelovent being. I don't like your christians. They show no resemblance to your christ."


(Remember the crusades?)

I hope this helps...

Sadly this is true. Most Christians show no resemblence to Christ as they're called to. I really can't blame people for not liking Christians or Christianity because the majority of "Christians" are nothing like the Bible tells them to be.