Is suicide selfish or cowardly?

[ShyGuyInChicago]

What are your thoughts? I think in some cases it is, but more often it is committed by a person that is so mentally damaged that there is no hope for them.

[Rutherford The Brave]

Both, there is always hope, thats inhumane to say that there is no hope just because they are unwilling. They all are, but doesn't mean nothing cannot be done.

[DarkHorses]

Yes, it is selfish and cowardly, but at the time that someone commits suicide they are not in a right mind and they do not realize that. If someone was able to think rationally and normally they would not kill themselves because they would realize there was hope for them. But since they are more than likely mentally ill they don't realize this as they should. I believe it is a selfish act, but that doesn't make the person who commits it a selfish person, and it doesn't mean they've done anything wrong.

[Obscene Eyedeas]

Suicide is a personal choice. You should not judge those people. It may be cowardly, may not that's a case by case question. in the end it does not matter they're dead and gone judging them won't bring them back. leave the dead lie.

[JackOfClubs]

I feel that it is both. Its selfish because one should think of all the other people that will hurt from it. All of the relatives and people that love you would be devastated. And its cowardly because its taking the easy way out; one isn't looking at the other options they may have.

[Perseus]

I feel that it is both. Its selfish because one should think of all the other people that will hurt from it. All of the relatives and people that love you would be devastated. And its cowardly because its taking the easy way out; one isn't looking at the other options they may have.

I was watching Enemy(ies?) at the Gate today in my first period class and a Russian officer had to kill himself for, I guess, he lost a battle; I dunno, but it was either him killing himself or be killed by a political officer. Is that cowardly and selfish?

I believe that suicide, when someone is, pretty much, depressed and they think they are at the edge of depression, is both since they definitely have other options.

[The Dark Lord]

Suicides both selfish and cowardly but at the end of the day its a personal choice and is it really our place to judge?

[Jess]

well, it could be both but I think you can decide your own death. it is your own personal choice...

[Azunite]

Selfish : You will abandon your family and friends, and you will make them miserable

Cowardly : You will run away from your one and only life, ending it with the fear of bad things ...

[xXWatEvsXxXx]

Both. you should never leave behind your world. you always have hope. ALWAYS. thers a soulution to almost everything

[Perseus]

Both. you should never leave behind your world. you always have hope. ALWAYS. thers a soulution to almost everything

Read my post.

[The Batman]

Neither, because to the person committing suicide they are doing it for their loved ones and to be less of a burden on others. Also it's not something that's easy to do, it takes a lot of courage to actually go through with it. Morally it's a bad thing to do and it does leave behind hurt ones but their actions don't make it selfish it's the reasons behind it that do.

[deadpie]

Selfish : You will abandon your family and friends, and you will make them miserable

Cowardly : You will run away from your one and only life, ending it with the fear of bad things ...

And what if your family has been through divorce or you've had abusive parents? Is it still selfish to kill yourself on their behalf of being fucking monsters? Oh, but I guess the "friends" would get miserable too. But then again, they probably never gave a shit about the person that would go through those things if the person killed them-self in the first place.


Suicide isn't cowardly. I think being a coward is a part of human nature and I haven't met one person that isn't a coward - most of us don't stand up for ourselves, hide behind masks, and would rather die then face strong issues. About everyone I know does one of more of those things.


People will commit suicide for various reasons. Once their gone I think everyone effected should definitely blame themselves and stop pointing fingers at the person that did it. You probably didn't know them that well in the first place. Second, we as humans aren't just going to be alive for each others stupid entertainment. I'm sorry that Bob or Sally died and now you have nobody to talk to during lunch now. Life's a bitch. Get used to it.

[ZodiacKiller]

Society has this possibly incorrect perspective that we need life, and that any other life must be worse (fear of death). I disagree. So the "morality" of it is a nondebate.

Selfishness: It would be selfish, although in most circumstances the person beleives it would be doing the world a favor, and that the people in their lives have stopped caring about them.

Cowardice: Stupid idea. I hope that a person would prefer death to torture (over extensive periods only of course) because then there is no point to existence. The problem is that the only thing that would come from continued existence would be psychological damage, although I will say it is often self-caused as the spin into depression feeds off itself.

[The Batman]

Society has this possibly incorrect perspective that we need life, and that any other life must be worse (fear of death). I disagree. So the "morality" of it is a nondebate. Actually your opinion of it makes it more of a reason to argue the morality of it since if we don't need life the law shouldn't make it illegal to take your own(which is illegal) and the only thing you have left to argue about is the morality of it.

Selfishness: It would be selfish, although in most circumstances the person beleives it would be doing the world a favor, and that the people in their lives have stopped caring about them.
Simply doing it doesn't make it selfish it's the reasons behind it. If you have a true mental disorder that causes you to commit suicide then it wasn't a selfish act it was the side-effect of the disease and without help there was no stopping it.
Cowardice: Stupid idea. I hope that a person would prefer death to torture (over extensive periods only of course) because then there is no point to existence. The problem is that the only thing that would come from continued existence would be psychological damage, although I will say it is often self-caused as the spin into depression feeds off itself.
I agree with this point to an extent.

[ZodiacKiller]

We cannot argue the morality of it. It would get too deep into religion, besides- I said our society in general shares the same (unproven) opinion, so it would be pointless to try to change the law.

You agree that some (to an extent) existences are not worth living and that it can not be a cowardice to deny them, then you turn around and say that it is selfish not to make ones self go through those existences. Explain thyself.

[steve1234]

What are your thoughts? I think in some cases it is, but more often it is committed by a person that is so mentally damaged that there is no hope for them.

I agree with you. In some cases it is selfish, but in some cases it is not.

For example, if someone has had a bad life, and they have ended up lonely and with no family, then I can understand why they would want to commit suicide. Also, if someone has a severe disability, it certainly isn't selfish in my opinion.

If someone like me commited suicide, It would be selfish. I have thought about doing it many times, but I have family, and a few good friends, and it would be selfish to put them through unneccessary grief.

[The Batman]

We cannot argue the morality of it. It would get too deep into religion, besides- I said our society in general shares the same (unproven) opinion, so it would be pointless to try to change the law.Just because it gets into religion doesn't mean you can't argue it. You could also argue it without going into religion though.

You agree that some (to an extent) existences are not worth living and that it can not be a cowardice to deny them, then you turn around and say that it is selfish not to make ones self go through those existences. Explain thyself.
I didn't say I agreed that some existences aren't worth living. I was saying I agreed that going through that life would cause a lot of psychological damage but that's not a point for suicide it's a point for getting help. I also didn't call suicide selfish once in this thread, I argued more that it wasn't

[Alex_.-]

neither...... well, cowardly by definition maybe.

but i think it's selfish for us to expect that person to live under terrible circumstances without having walked in their shoes.

suicide is very unfortunate, but we've created an environment where death is perceived as a better option to dealing with all the bullshit..

sad.

[Sogeking]

It is cowardly. It means you are not strong enough to face your problems and would rather end your own life



suicide is very unfortunate, but we've created an environment where death is perceived as a better option to dealing with all the bullshit..


Agreed.